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All that will mean is that you will get paid less. The company will maintain its net profit for the benefit of shareholders.

Get a clue.

What a concept, I work I pay taxes. A company operates they pay taxes. What a concept! News bulletin, employers aren't paying, there is only one solution for ahole companies is to ensure they pay their share of taxes. In the case of resource companies, exporting oil, in turn making Canada import oil/refined gas, an extra tax for those greedy effs.
 
What a concept, I work I pay taxes. A company operates they pay taxes. What a concept! News bulletin, employers aren't paying, there is only one solution for ahole companies is to ensure they pay their share of taxes. In the case of resource companies, exporting oil, in turn making Canada import oil/refined gas, an extra tax for those greedy effs.

Lol you have no idea what you are talking about. its so funny.
 
Lol you have no idea what you are talking about. its so funny.

It is clear, your idea of compensation to Canada is taxing the work of employees and let corporations hoard the profits for themselves. As for corporations paying out profits, look a apple, they have 100 billion plus in Cash, with zero plans of distributing that to shareholders. There goes your bubble of delusion.
 
It is clear, your idea of compensation to Canada is taxing the work of employees and let corporations hoard the profits for themselves. As for corporations paying out profits, look a apple, they have 100 billion plus in Cash, with zero plans of distributing that to shareholders. There goes your bubble of delusion.

You don't like your job, get a better one, you started your life about a mile ahead of where I started mine, so forgive me if I don't give a ****.
 
Did I read somewhere that engineers were in demand???

That's funny right there, I tell you what!
 
you started your life about a mile ahead of where I started mine, so forgive me if I don't give a ****.

ah...thats what makes you so feisty, your first comment to me was a put down. roger that
 
You don't like your job, get a better one, you started your life about a mile ahead of where I started mine, so forgive me if I don't give a ****.

What do I have to do with corporations hoarding cash, your delusion of not taxing companies, and you believing it's ok to give away canada's resources for the benefit of other countries with the only benefit trickling to Canada is the income taxes paid on employment income. Canada's lack of democracy has allowed political parties with a majority to sell out Canada for their gain. This system is Canada's undoing.
 
It is clear, your idea of compensation to Canada is taxing the work of employees and let corporations hoard the profits for themselves. As for corporations paying out profits, look a apple, they have 100 billion plus in Cash, with zero plans of distributing that to shareholders. There goes your bubble of delusion.

Run a company, take risks, put your house on the line and then you are allowed to have an opinion on what companies should do with their money. In the meantime be happy someone took all those risks and stress and gave you a job.
 
Run a company, take risks, put your house on the line and then you are allowed to have an opinion on what companies should do with their money. In the meantime be happy someone took all those risks and stress and gave you a job.

So we need to own a company in order to have an opinion on how corporations are taxed here? I don't think it works like that. Governments set tax rates, and people elect the government (or that's how it should work, anyway).

I saw a news piece the other day showing how the typical Canadian finally pays off their tax for the year in June -- the typical business pays off its tax bill by the end of January.

On one hand, I can understand this. Charge a company too much tax and they will either 1) pack up and ship out to a place that has less tax or 2) Charge their customers more to cover the tax.

Personally, I like choice. Income tax isn't choice, but a consumption tax is. I would not mind high taxes on businesses that provide either services (cannot be moved offshore) or elastic goods. Sure the prices would be higher on services and elastic goods, but if my income taxes were lower I would have more disposable income to decide which services and elastic goods were more important and worthy of my money: i.e. freedom.
 
You don't like your job, get a better one, you started your life about a mile ahead of where I started mine, so forgive me if I don't give a ****.

With all due respect - OpenGambit - you play into every single stereotype I have of a capital markets lawyer.
Would be so interesting to hash out left leaning vs. right leaning politics with you.

We've got to go for a ride someday - maybe the track and we can hash it out.
I've got to see your bike as well - I bet it is kick ***!

My two cents regarding generation homeless? University was kind to me - yes there was hard work, and I happened to fall into a health profession that pays the bills and gas for the bike. In University - I contemplated some sort of course in aerodynamic space engineering - had a two day spell of really wanting to be an astronaut - but a week later realized I wasn't that committed to be a scientist/astronaut - especially when I had no clue - I mean not even an inkling of a clue of what was going on. So I am not an astronaut, or a scientist, and I have not been to the moon, but I have rode to Keswick, so I have seen life on other planets.

My generation is screwed. I read in the Walrus magazine, Ken Coates/Bill Morrison wrote:

"Canadian universities have shifted from being preserves of the rich, the gifted, and the intensely ambitious into the academic equivalent of intramural sports, where the premium rests on mass participation rather than on high achievement."

Just get a bike and go for a ride.
 
With all due respect - OpenGambit - you play into every single stereotype I have of a capital markets lawyer.
Would be so interesting to hash out left leaning vs. right leaning politics with you.

Clearly, you have no idea what I think or who I am. So take your stereotypes and shove em up your ***.

I have no sympathy for people who are already among the most privileged on the planet complaining about garbage.

Life is simple, grow up, get an education, get a degree that matters, pack your bags, and go where the money is, then work your *** off. Thats all there is to it.

If you think you know me so well, let me ask you something. I donate a lot of money every year to a variety of charities/causes that all relate to one single, larger, cause.
Name the cause that I care about the most.
 
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So we need to own a company in order to have an opinion on how corporations are taxed here? I don't think it works like that. Governments set tax rates, and people elect the government (or that's how it should work, anyway).


No, but the person that took the biggest risk should get the biggest reward. That should be self evident.
 
Clearly, you have no idea what I think or who I am. I donate a lot of money every year to a variety of charities/causes that all relate to one single, larger, cause.
Name the cause that I care about the most.

"I think you have patted yourself on the back enough already" QUOTE OpenGambit Now I know why you said that to me about giving to charities. Takes one to know one.
 
I have a college diploma, university undergrad and a post grad certificate, all in the environmental field I had a tough time finding a job after my schooling but I'm fortunate that I now work for a municipal government in a civil engineering / planning position. It's not my ideal job, but I could far far worse. I'm turning 30 in April and I've noticed that a fair amount of people within a few years of my age just want to float through life. They prefer travelling and going out 4 nights per week rather than saving money and trying to establish themselves. The same people also quit their jobs to go back to school to study left handed under water basket weaving and can't figure out why they can't get hired anywhere with their graduate degree in basket weaving.
 
No, but the person that took the biggest risk should get the biggest reward. That should be self evident.

THIS,
I can never understand employees that are sour the company owners have great cars, cottages, nice houses, and vacations. It's their gamble that built the shop Joe Bitterboy works in.

People that think Canadian companies dont pay LOTS of taxes have no clue. And yeah, they hire tax lawyers and CA's to help avoid taxes, same as Joe Bitter has an RRSP and TFSA. Thats how capitalism in a democratic society works. The argument, I dont have enough takehome pay to take advantage of RRSP's ect. is weak. Love the guys at the bar holding a smoke complaining about work wages.
 
THIS,
I can never understand employees that are sour the company owners have great cars, cottages, nice houses, and vacations. It's their gamble that built the shop Joe Bitterboy works in.

People that think Canadian companies dont pay LOTS of taxes have no clue. And yeah, they hire tax lawyers and CA's to help avoid taxes, same as Joe Bitter has an RRSP and TFSA. Thats how capitalism in a democratic society works. The argument, I dont have enough takehome pay to take advantage of RRSP's ect. is weak. Love the guys at the bar holding a smoke complaining about work wages.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. It's a balance. As a small business owner, damn straight I want to make more money than my employees for all the obvious reasons but I won't buy into the philosophy that I need to rape the workers. They have an investment of time and energy as well. I don't pay them out of my pocket (as some of my business friends seem to feel) but spread money from customers all around the business, including wages, as I see fit. I don't see my employees as a business expense I need to reduce to the minimum. The idea that I'll pay minimum I can get away with and if you don't like it, go somewhere else is not the work enviroment I want to be in on a daily basis. Granted some employees are never happy no matter what you do for them.
 
^ an MSc in Environmental Science should be pretty hot now, no?
My daughter Jess is doing really well in that field.I would love a job working for her small company doing field work.http://www.nrsi.on.ca/ And her husband is doing great as well.Tax manager for Sun.An education is worth it imho.But they still have a little debt,they know what wants and needs are.
 
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. It's a balance. As a small business owner, damn straight I want to make more money than my employees for all the obvious reasons but I won't buy into the philosophy that I need to rape the workers. They have an investment of time and energy as well. I don't pay them out of my pocket (as some of my business friends seem to feel) but spread money from customers all around the business, including wages, as I see fit. I don't see my employees as a business expense I need to reduce to the minimum. The idea that I'll pay minimum I can get away with and if you don't like it, go somewhere else is not the work enviroment I want to be in on a daily basis. Granted some employees are never happy no matter what you do for them.

True DAT.
 

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