He's too stupid to do something like that!
Problem is, there are a lot of (ahem) uneducated people who vote, who aren't smart enough to understand anything other than Trump's rants.
(I'm no fan of Hillary either)
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He's too stupid to do something like that!
Problem is, there are a lot of (ahem) uneducated people who vote, who aren't smart enough to understand anything other than Trump's rants.
(I'm no fan of Hillary either)
Have to agree.
I have a handful of american friends on FB who are clearly trump supporters, some on both sides of the above scale. Their posts range from:
- Profanity laden rants bordering of childish in nature.
- Countless memes with generally totally inaccurate information.
- Completely off the wall conspiracy garbage that is right out of the Trump playbook.
- Links to blogs and "news" sites that are so far in the Trump camp that expecting impartial coverage (ie: realy news) is rediculous. For example, one posted a Breitbart article tonight. Because that's apt to be fair and correct, given as how they're the ones running the Trump campaign right now. We might as well listen to Trumps own off the wall claims.
On the Hillary side, it's polite and coordial. No childish yelling. No insane memes...memes yes, but typically factual and PG rated. Discussion that doesn't degenerate into name calling and F bombs by the third comment. Links to legitimate coverage (not blogs and talk radio hosts) that isn't directly tied to the Hillary camp....like Breitbart for one example.
It's night and day.
And yeah, like yourself, no fan of Hillary here either, but ONE is going to be the president, and ONE is way less batshit crazy.
It's a social experiment, that's for sure. I'm not sure we'll like what the answer is.
So now, the Donald has said that he'll accept the outcome of the election ... if he wins.
And if not?
Roadghost
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Trump is going to lose, but if I were American I would not vote for Hilary. She is completely false. Throughout the final debate her lies and hypocrisy were more apparent than ever. She has never supported the 2nd Amendment, in fact the complete opposite, yet she said with a straight face at the debate that she supported it. What a lie. She's been taking money from cruel dictatorships for her charity fund. She did in fact mock the women who were raped by her husband. Her policies in the middle east are a complete disaster, and she and Obama have been played for fools by Vladimir Putin over and over.
I feel sorry for Americans. They have a real dog's breakfast right now for choices.
I feel sorry for Americans. They have a real dog's breakfast right now for choices.
Seen on facebook but I can't find a link to the picture. It looks like a Windows error-message screen.
"Error: The presidential candidate selection process has malfunctioned. Would you like to restart America in safe mode and reinstall a new slate of presidential candidates (Recommended)?"
"Error: The presidential candidate selection process has malfunctioned. Would you like to restart America in safe mode and reinstall a new slate of presidential candidates (Recommended)?"
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BigEvilDoer
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Are Americans allowed to decline their ballot?
At this point, I think it would be the ideal solution. If enough people decline their ballot (not the same as simply not voting or spoiling their ballot) they would be forced to have 2 new party representatives and a new election process would (at least I hope so) have to begin.
Get rid of both extremely poor choices for President, and save face the world over.
What's this "played for fools by Putin" rubbish I keep hearing about? If by played for fools means they weren't willing to openly target civilians in air strikes in Syria like the Russians are doing or perhaps go to war over Ukraine then sure. Directly engaging Putin is what Putin wants. I actually think slowly choking him with sanctions will do more good as his own people are starting to turn on him now....which is precisely why he's playing a dangerous game.
-D-
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How old are you?
You can't get 100 ppl to agree on lunch much less get millions of ppl to agree to that.
That's a dumb idea because the other party will just ram the vote for their person and whamo, they win.
We are talking about America...lie, cheat, steal...win at all cost.
Half of the Republican party still believed Obama was born in Kenya.
And to show how dumb they are...that would not matter because as long as 1 parent is a US citizen then the child becomes a US citizen.
His mother was a US citizen (Father from Africa)...duh...he is a US citizen either way.
John McCain was born in Panama...oh noooo's....oh right, he is white rules don't apply to him.
The country already voted, that's how you ended up with these 2.
Syria was touched on last night, as well as Russia and Assad, this video has some very good (must watch imo) information surrounding the 12 year old boy, recently beheaded by US supported "moderate rebels".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzEsDAoUvOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzEsDAoUvOI
knucklesound
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Feels to me like they are all the same and this is a big scripted reality show designed to make us all distracted and stupider. I don't think Trump was ever supposed to win, cause i am pretty sure if they ran a popsicle stick against H.C.- it could win...D.T. will start up his 'news' station after this is done- or sell his 'brand' in some other way to the devoted fans who actually believe he is 'one of them' (just like ultra-rich-grew-up-in-politics GWBush played the role in his good ol boy cowboy hat)
Just watched the 'outsider' talk at the Alfred E Smith charity dinner about how close he has been to the people in the room...
"THE POLITICIANS. THEY HAVE HAD ME TO THEIR HOMES. THEY HAVE INTRODUCED ME TO THEIR CHILDREN. I HAVE BECOME THEIR BEST FRIENDS IN MANY INSTANCES. THEY HAVE ASKED FOR MY ENDORSEMENTS AND THEY ALWAYS WANTED MY MONEY. THEY EVEN CALLED ME. REALLY A DEAR DEAR FRIEND."
https://www.c-span.org/video/?416979-1/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-deliver-remarks-al-smith-dinner
Hahaha.
" BUT I HAVE GREAT MEMORIES OF COMING TO THIS DINNER WITH MY FATHER OVER THE YEARS WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN. GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR ME. THIS WAS ALWAYS A SPECIAL EXPERIENCE FOR HIM AND ME TO BE TOGETHER. "
Religion, politics and the ultra-rich rubbing elbows. Working our way towards 'Idiocracy'
[video=youtube;-N9nVLXMhPc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N9nVLXMhPc[/video]
Just watched the 'outsider' talk at the Alfred E Smith charity dinner about how close he has been to the people in the room...
"THE POLITICIANS. THEY HAVE HAD ME TO THEIR HOMES. THEY HAVE INTRODUCED ME TO THEIR CHILDREN. I HAVE BECOME THEIR BEST FRIENDS IN MANY INSTANCES. THEY HAVE ASKED FOR MY ENDORSEMENTS AND THEY ALWAYS WANTED MY MONEY. THEY EVEN CALLED ME. REALLY A DEAR DEAR FRIEND."
https://www.c-span.org/video/?416979-1/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-deliver-remarks-al-smith-dinner
Hahaha.
" BUT I HAVE GREAT MEMORIES OF COMING TO THIS DINNER WITH MY FATHER OVER THE YEARS WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN. GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR ME. THIS WAS ALWAYS A SPECIAL EXPERIENCE FOR HIM AND ME TO BE TOGETHER. "
Religion, politics and the ultra-rich rubbing elbows. Working our way towards 'Idiocracy'
[video=youtube;-N9nVLXMhPc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N9nVLXMhPc[/video]
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Sounds like finding that both the engine and the transmission in your car are almost shot. Fixing one doesn't help the other so you drive the thing into the ground.
If he does play the "I didn't really want to be president anyways, surprise!" game at the end of all this I sure hope the American people are outraged about it.
I think he's done so much damage to his brand that he's going to feel financial repercussions regardless - face it, 50% of the American population think he's a loon and will no longer support him in any way, shape, or form - so his businesses will suffer. Of the remaining 40-50% (not all of whom think he's the second coming of Christ like some of his supporters do), how many will continue to support his business ventures? If he gets half of that group, he's down to 25% of the American population. And of that 25%, a huge portion is uneducated and financially challenged..so they aren't staying in high end hotels, buying memberships in exclusive golf clubs, etc.
A lot of the wealthy people who were his bread and butter are likely going to distance themselves from him in the coming years because either they don't want to support him, or the optics of doing ANY business with him is plain bad. That's gonna hurt.
If the rumoured "Trump TV" does come to fruition, I questions it's longevity. Fox news is favored by the hard right, but it's it's own network. A hard right conspiracy whackjob oriented TV station might find issues getting carriage on any major networks or cable companies. If it costs extra, the whole "poor and uneducated" thing comes into play again - will people pay for it? And advertisers are unlikely to rush to it either.
If you look at the fact checking websites you'd see that Hillary is being truthful in her statements exponentially more often vs Trump, who seems to just shout out the first thing that comes to his mind even when it's patently false. It's amazing to watch him stand there on TV and say "I didn't say that!" or his other favorite, "False"...when a 5 second Google search turns up clip after clip of him saying exactly what he claims he didn't say.
You're presuming the uber rich have the same moral compass as the rest of us; I'm presuming you don't get that rich by being an all around decent human being. If doing business with trump means $$$ made, I bet "optics be damned" is the mantra. He'll be fine IMO
Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
Sometimes (rarely) religion gets it right....
-D-
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The assumption is the 'rich man' believes or cares about religion.
If the 'rich man' doesn't give a damn then it's pointless.
You're assuming that most of Trumps customers and clients are they Uber rich. Sure, some of his businesses cater to that segment of society, however when you look at many of his businesses they are office towers and real estate that people like you and me live in.
I strongly suspect that he has probably alienated a lot of those very people. Commercial and residential square footage vacancies hurt the bottom line, as well as people avoiding his other business ventures like casinos etc.
And not all of the Uber rich segment of the population are necessarily in love with him either, although less likely to dump him as a result of all this, I'd agree. Some undoubtedly will however.
Long story short, I don't think that the Trump name will have the same cachet it had beforehand after all this dust settles It will be a tarnished brand for many.
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I was musing about that this AM. Will he become a pariah?
The Red Roof was full. I had to stay at the Trump joint.
