That thing on the top looks like a cheap Bushnell red dot that’s been ”antiqued”.
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We Know you Ride, But do you Shoot?
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That thing on the top looks like a cheap Bushnell red dot that’s been ”antiqued”.
Short barrel and huge vents should help with the recoil. You might be hairless after though.
More stupid ideas from politicians. Del duca promised to ban all handguns if he was elected. What an idiot. I'm sure that will stop the people that are currently carrying handguns and shooting at people.
Star had an article on this. I'm sure other sources will too.
Star had an article on this. I'm sure other sources will too.
Obviously banning legal handguns will solve the problem of illegal handguns
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The bent logic, and I am not saying I agree.... two points below.
Domestic disputes, accidental, school and general mass shootings are a high percentage legally owned/obtained in the US (by perp or family). While NS skews us on mass (they were illegal) I would not be surprised if we do not trend somewhat like the US with the exceptions it is already much harder to get them here and we have actual storage laws and a different culture for the most part. So less of these events (thankfully) and a shift in illegal (gang) vs legal messed up kid for schools.
US street crimes and mass shootings touched on here by FoxNews, as a reference:
www.foxnews.com
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BTW, I never saw it in the local news to link it but my kid's Toronto high school was locked down a few months back as one of the messed up kids said he was coming to shoot the place up on social media on the weekend. He was arrested at home Monday morning beforehand, he had accessed the family guns at the time but no handguns AFAIK. No shooting, white kid, not news I guess.
Most of the kids knew about it beforehand and stayed home, ours did and we told any parent we knew and theirs did. Teachers showed up, apparently no one bothered to tell them....
- No personnel handguns means less handguns to be stolen and fall into the hands of the bad guys.
- No personnel handguns means they cannot be used in domestic disputes, accidental shootings and mass/school shooting incidents.
Domestic disputes, accidental, school and general mass shootings are a high percentage legally owned/obtained in the US (by perp or family). While NS skews us on mass (they were illegal) I would not be surprised if we do not trend somewhat like the US with the exceptions it is already much harder to get them here and we have actual storage laws and a different culture for the most part. So less of these events (thankfully) and a shift in illegal (gang) vs legal messed up kid for schools.
US street crimes and mass shootings touched on here by FoxNews, as a reference:
Where do criminals really get their guns?
On average, just under 40,000 people each year die across the country in a gun-related death. So where do criminals typically buy their guns? And do most criminals seek out their weapons of choice through means, not above board?
www.foxnews.com
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BTW, I never saw it in the local news to link it but my kid's Toronto high school was locked down a few months back as one of the messed up kids said he was coming to shoot the place up on social media on the weekend. He was arrested at home Monday morning beforehand, he had accessed the family guns at the time but no handguns AFAIK. No shooting, white kid, not news I guess.
Most of the kids knew about it beforehand and stayed home, ours did and we told any parent we knew and theirs did. Teachers showed up, apparently no one bothered to tell them....
I have no problem with strengthening firearm storage regulations (cannot be visible, container must meet rating x (ideally tl-15 but even csc would be better than now), etc). I would even put it in law that your system can only be easily accessed by license holders. For instance, if you give your kid or wife the safe code, that location is unacceptable for firearms unless they all have the appropriate license. Obviously someone can always break in but that slows things down a lot and leaves very visible evidence of a problem. That mostly fixes the problem of stolen firearms or kids getting them. As far as the license holder using it on a spouse, if they didnt use the gun, they would use a knife. Once things go that far wrong, laws dont matter.The bent logic, and I am not saying I agree.... two points below.
On the first one the bigger problem is the border IMO, not guns stolen in Canada, the legislation does nothing to prevent this. Not sure on our full stats here but in the US the stats do show that robbery and street crimes are a high percentage committed (very high) with illegal guns (not legally owned/obtained), I am sure that is the same here. Nothing shocking here, I think most people know this.
- No personnel handguns means less handguns to be stolen and fall into the hands of the bad guys.
- No personnel handguns means they cannot be used in domestic disputes, accidental shootings and mass/school shooting incidents.
Domestic disputes, accidental, school and general mass shootings are a high percentage legally owned/obtained in the US (by perp or family). While NS skews us on mass (they were illegal) I would not be surprised if we do not trend somewhat like the US with the exceptions it is already much harder to get them here and we have actual storage laws and a different culture for the most part. So less of these events (thankfully) and a shift in illegal (gang) vs legal messed up kid for schools.
US street crimes and mass shootings touched on here by FoxNews, as a reference:
Where do criminals really get their guns?
On average, just under 40,000 people each year die across the country in a gun-related death. So where do criminals typically buy their guns? And do most criminals seek out their weapons of choice through means, not above board?
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BTW, I never saw it in the local news to link it but my kid's Toronto high school was locked down a few months back as one of the messed up kids said he was coming to shoot the place up on social media on the weekend. He was arrested at home Monday morning beforehand, he had accessed the family guns at the time but no handguns AFAIK. No shooting, white kid, not news I guess.
Most of the kids knew about it beforehand and stayed home, ours did and we told any parent we knew and theirs did. Teachers showed up, apparently no one bothered to tell them....
Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations
Federal laws of Canada
Sadly, all that is way to complex for politics. Good---bad is all that is understood.I have no problem with strengthening firearm storage regulations (cannot be visible, container must meet rating x (ideally tl-15 but even csc would be better than now), etc). I would even put it in law that your system can only be easily accessed by license holders. For instance, if you give your kid or wife the safe code, that location is unacceptable for firearms unless they all have the appropriate license. Obviously someone can always break in but that slows things down a lot and leaves very visible evidence of a problem. That mostly fixes the problem of stolen firearms or kids getting them. As far as the license holder using it on a spouse, if they didnt use the gun, they would use a knife. Once things go that far wrong, laws dont matter.
Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations
Federal laws of Canadalaws-lois.justice.gc.ca
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I’m not a gun debate guy, but if handguns have a market , they will make thier way into the market . Either shipped in from the US ( smuggled) or from offshore . All a ban will accomplish is driving up the price of illegal guns . It will not prevent them .
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Unfortunately that would only be the case in maybe the US. a huge number of the illegal guns here are smuggled from the US already. Even banning handguns across the entire country (Canada) would do practically nothing to the price and ease of access to these guns.
Even TPS deputy chief admitted so: Guns used in crimes are coming from U.S., not legal gun owners: police chiefs
Heck, even if you banned handguns in the US right now, I doubt you'd impact much. Their illegal guns probably outnumber our legal ones.
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With escalated frieght rates and the crazy exchange rates our skeet range has had to put the cost of clay pidgins up .
This supply shortage and transportation issue is affecting me in ways I could not predict.
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This supply shortage and transportation issue is affecting me in ways I could not predict.
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Glorious afternoon on the range. I had the place to myself. I nonchalantly wasted an awful lot of 9mm and realized I’m quite rusty. Switched to rifles and realized the .22 ammo that said “old world quality” on the box was shorthand for “this is ****, it will go all over the shop”.
So JT has saved the future masses from death. FWIW I'm not pro gun and was nearly shot once as a kid due to a poor storage issue.
IMO JT has admitted the border is as leaky as a sieve for hand guns. Wow. He just figured that out?
The whole assault rifle issue is cosmetics. IMO (Again) a deer doesn't give a damn what the rifle looks like. If a hunter needs to look like Rambo he has an attitude problem. Similarly at a range the only place where apperance matters is where the bullet appears to have hit the target.
By all means tidy up the loose bits but I didn't hear anything about banning rental vans to mow down pedestrians.
There is so much frustration and injustice today violence will manifest itself one way or another. Why not spend the money on that?
As Desmond Tutu put it.
“There comes a point where we need to stop just pulling people out of the river.
We need to go upstream and find out why they’re falling in.”
The liberal latest interpretation of hand gun law is absurd , sad and quite frankly pointless . All this is doing is making life harder for ligitimate owners , sportsman and grandstanding to the gun violence advocates .
Allowing elite shooting competitors to own guns , and elite coaches ? So in 5 yrs we have no Olympic shooters because training will disappear. Who thought up that gem?
No sales , resales , importation or manufacturer. We didn’t ban them , we made it impossible for any of the current generation of licensed owners to do anything to stay in the sport .
I will gamble gun violence does not go down, because nobody wants to talk about the Rez corridor , smuggling in general or illegal manufacturing.
Again its targeting the easy solution, take ligitimate shooters , that lock them up , store them correctly for transport and don’t sell to guys in dark alleys .
The liberals have really lost the plot here .
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Allowing elite shooting competitors to own guns , and elite coaches ? So in 5 yrs we have no Olympic shooters because training will disappear. Who thought up that gem?
No sales , resales , importation or manufacturer. We didn’t ban them , we made it impossible for any of the current generation of licensed owners to do anything to stay in the sport .
I will gamble gun violence does not go down, because nobody wants to talk about the Rez corridor , smuggling in general or illegal manufacturing.
Again its targeting the easy solution, take ligitimate shooters , that lock them up , store them correctly for transport and don’t sell to guys in dark alleys .
The liberals have really lost the plot here .
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I disagree. I think they are fully on plot. Never let a tragedy go to waste. Ban guns in Canada. They don't give a single (*&& about gun violence. That is just a distraction to ban firearms. Now, why they want to ban legally owned and used firearms, I have no bleeping idea. Useless twats.
I bought another gun last night! Figured it would be an early birthday present..and also to grandfather it in.
Nice, good looking, cheap on ammo, reasonably accurate.
Nice, good looking, cheap on ammo, reasonably accurate.
I was interested in a 22 handgun just for plinking until I realized that even under existing laws, I could only use it on a licensed range. Boo. How many gun crimes in canada have involved a 22 handgun? I would hazard a guess that it's really close to zero. If you limit scope to fatal incidents, probably zero street crimes and maybe only a couple assasinations.I bought another gun last night! Figured it would be an early birthday present..and also to grandfather it in.
Nice, good looking, cheap on ammo, reasonably accurate.
It’s the assassin’s favourite apparently. Mossad uses .22 handguns. I’d hazard a guess that there’s not a lot of professional assassins in Canada though.
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Agreed, I haven't read any articles lately of legal gun owners protecting their home from a home invasion with their guns as they're required to be locked in a safe separate from ammunition, so by the time the thief is standing over your bed you wouldn't have time to get it anyways. My gun course instructor a couple months ago was former Burlington swat and that's exactly what he said. Even criminals who slept with a loaded gun next to their bed didn't have time to grab them before the team busted the door down.
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