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vaccine poll

Vaccinated?

  • Yes...Pfizer or Moderna

    Votes: 82 58.6%

  • Yes...Astra Zeneca or J&J

    Votes: 26 18.6%

  • not yet but soon

    Votes: 11 7.9%

  • not booking it yet but I might get it eventually

    Votes: 11 7.9%

  • not going to get vaccinated

    Votes: 13 9.3%
  • Total voters
    140
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Brian P said:
The comments section for that letter are interesting. Peer review at work.
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The problem with this whole situation is at the cats out of the bag once these bogus studies get published somewhere even remotely reputable.

Hell, a percentage of people (and sadly not a small one) looking for a story / study to fit their narrative will believe a study they found *anywhere*, even pseudoscientific nonsense from YouTube or whatever. But when it’s posted on something that should be reasonably reputable, it grows many extra sets of legs and will never die, even if it’s retracted after the fact.

And worse yet when that happens, a portion of the conspiracy theorists will just say that it was killed / retracted / removed because of whatever conspiracy theory suits their needs that day of the week.
 
PrivatePilot said:
The problem with this whole situation is at the cats out of the bag once these bogus studies get published somewhere even remotely reputable.

Hell, a percentage of people (and sadly not a small one) looking for a story / study to fit their narrative will believe a study they found *anywhere*, even pseudoscientific nonsense from YouTube or whatever. But when it’s posted on something that should be reasonably reputable, it grows many extra sets of legs and will never die, even if it’s retracted after the fact.

And worse yet when that happens, a portion of the conspiracy theorists will just say that it was killed / retracted / removed because of whatever conspiracy theory suits their needs that day of the week.
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Are you saying vaccines don't cause autism? JK, I agree with what you say.
 
Lyndsay said:
Are you saying vaccines don't cause autism? JK, I agree with what you say.
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If one positive thing has come out of the pandemic it’s that almost all of the nonsense talking points that the anti-vaccine crowd use have been proven false over and over and over again.

On the topic, I must admit that I am frankly surprised (in a good way!) to see us reaching the levels of vaccination we are here in Canada. I’ll admit to having been pretty pessimistic about us having any hope of reaching 80%, much less even maybe 60%, back in January. But hey, we’re nailing this and now we’re reaping the rewards. Hopefully this translates into a mostly normal winter as well. I just want to be able to visit friends, go out for dinner and beer in a restaurant, coffee in a coffee shop, and stop eating my lunch off my steering wheel at work every day.
 
GreyGhost said:
Great. Headed for the airport. They need to use the dye they use for bank robberies to mark people with a positive PCR test. You know she is going to say she is fine at the airport.
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I hope they inform the airline prior to her arrival and she gets denied any transportation.

This will be happening more and more moving forward and we will see both vaccine rates increase, and the ‘but mah rights’ crowd get more silenced.
 
Toronto board of trade is calling for vaccine passports for non-essential business activities. They talk about conferences but also bring up indoor dining. Flash a QR code to get a table? No issue for me. Big issues for the morons at the gov't who will probably screw it up and every anti-vaxxer in the province will have a QR code that allows them access.

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PrivatePilot said:
The problem with this whole situation is at the cats out of the bag once these bogus studies get published somewhere even remotely reputable.

Hell, a percentage of people (and sadly not a small one) looking for a story / study to fit their narrative will believe a study they found *anywhere*, even pseudoscientific nonsense from YouTube or whatever. But when it’s posted on something that should be reasonably reputable, it grows many extra sets of legs and will never die, even if it’s retracted after the fact.

And worse yet when that happens, a portion of the conspiracy theorists will just say that it was killed / retracted / removed because of whatever conspiracy theory suits their needs that day of the week.
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And yet, if the publication refuses to publish the "study" to begin with, the conspiracy theorists complain that their voices are being muzzled.

There is perhaps something to be said for publish, then squash with facts.
 
Brian P said:
And yet, if the publication refuses to publish the "study" to begin with, the conspiracy theorists complain that their voices are being muzzled.

There is perhaps something to be said for publish, then squash with facts.
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That also builds a public track record of authors that may be publishing less than scientifically rigorous data in a quest for something (fame, notoriety, tv gigs, stardom, ego, etc). If articles never see the light and get critically reviewed, it is harder for regular people to filter out the quacks.
 
www.worldometers.info

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
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Click on the button beside the "new cases" column heading to sort the table by new cases, descending order.

The top of the list are all red states with the exception of California and New York, which are on the list because big, and because New York City.

Click Florida to see the details, then scroll down to the daily new cases and daily new deaths graphs. Not looking good.

Ron DeSantis is starting to get a problem on his hands. #1, I'm shocked (not). #2, couldn't happen to a nicer guy (LOL). #3, Now what? Based on 7-day rolling average, number of daily new cases has doubled in 10 days. It's little more than one doubling period away from reaching the previous peak. What's he going to do about it? My guess ... nothing.
 
Brian P said:
www.worldometers.info

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info

Click on the button beside the "new cases" column heading to sort the table by new cases, descending order.

The top of the list are all red states with the exception of California and New York, which are on the list because big, and because New York City.

Click Florida to see the details, then scroll down to the daily new cases and daily new deaths graphs. Not looking good.

Ron DeSantis is starting to get a problem on his hands. #1, I'm shocked (not). #2, couldn't happen to a nicer guy (LOL). #3, Now what? Based on 7-day rolling average, number of daily new cases has doubled in 10 days. It's little more than one doubling period away from reaching the previous peak. What's he going to do about it? My guess ... nothing.
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My parents figured they are not going to Florida again this year because it's going to be a (*&(*&show. Insurance goes up a lot for them next year so their days as snowbirds may be over.
 
@Brian P great, just great... :( MO and FL are both in the top 5 (step son graduating from Army boot camp in MO in August and family from FL going to see him...even being fully vaccinated beyond 14 days, I'm still not that excited about going into that cesspool...
 
ifiddles said:
@Brian P great, just great... :( MO and FL are both in the top 5 (step son graduating from Army boot camp in MO in August and family from FL going to see him...even being fully vaccinated beyond 14 days, I'm still not that excited about going into that cesspool...
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How is the army dealing with this? Vaccine offered/encouraged/discouraged?
 
@GreyGhost honestly, I have no idea...we haven't spoken with him since he went in late April (they only get one call per week so he calls his fiancee)...we do know that they had a 14 day quarantine period when they arrived before starting their training...my other step son is a US Marine, and I'm pretty sure he's fully vaccinated, but again, not sure if it's mandatory or not...
 
Brian P said:
www.worldometers.info

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info

Click on the button beside the "new cases" column heading to sort the table by new cases, descending order.

The top of the list are all red states with the exception of California and New York, which are on the list because big, and because New York City.

Click Florida to see the details, then scroll down to the daily new cases and daily new deaths graphs. Not looking good.

Ron DeSantis is starting to get a problem on his hands. #1, I'm shocked (not). #2, couldn't happen to a nicer guy (LOL). #3, Now what? Based on 7-day rolling average, number of daily new cases has doubled in 10 days. It's little more than one doubling period away from reaching the previous peak. What's he going to do about it? My guess ... nothing.
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Biden hasn't got this under control?
 
Now click on population, and see that Florida has more population than New York.
Then click on Deaths per 1M pop and see how far 26th ranked Florida has to go to catch 2nd ranked New York.
Then think about how many more old people are in Florida, which has been wide open all this time.

Then stop trying to put political meaning into the numbers. Work on positive ways to help people and get them vaccinated, if that's your thing.

p.s. The U.S. itself, is ranked between 20th South Carolina and 21st Oklahoma for death per 1M.
 
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