The Bad Drivers of Ontario Thread

And stopped fully in a live lane instead of pulling over. 38.922229M people in Canada will be far better off if that guy never has a license again. Zero percent chance of that happening though.

That's bold of you to assume he has a (real) license to begin with.
 
I don't think that we've had this one yet. Careless driver swerves around slowing traffic, then PITs an ambulance, with lights and sirens going.


Teslas with FSD seem to like ambulances. Any emergency vehicles are fair game for them, actually.

 
Teslas with FSD seem to like ambulances. Any emergency vehicles are fair game for them, actually.

Sadly, everyone that isn't Musk shouldn't be that surprised by this. Ditching radar and going with only image analysis is risky as things like flashing lights are hard to interpret and can really screw with calculated position, relative speed, direction of travel and pretty much everything else that a "self-driving" vehicle needs to know.
 
Shouldn't the driver of these Tesla's also be held liable? How can someone just enter a car and have no responsibility for the operation of the vehicle? They may as well just get in the passenger seat.
 
Shouldn't the driver of these Tesla's also be held liable? How can someone just enter a car and have no responsibility for the operation of the vehicle? They may as well just get in the passenger seat.

"But, but, but, Elong said!!!"
 
Shouldn't the driver of these Tesla's also be held liable? How can someone just enter a car and have no responsibility for the operation of the vehicle? They may as well just get in the passenger seat.
Therein lies the problem. Tesla says it is all.on the driver. Then they brand it "autopilot" and "full self-driving". Humans suck at paying attention unless we have something to do. Automated driving systems are great secondary systems to intervene if a driver screws up. Pretending they are a viable primary driving system now is just beta testing in public.
 
Teslas with FSD seem to like ambulances. Any emergency vehicles are fair game for them, actually.

I would say that Tesla is in the clear, as it's supposed to be a driver assistance feature and not full self-driving, except for the implications of its name. Deceptive advertising = liability.
 
I would say that Tesla is in the clear, as it's supposed to be a driver assistance feature and not full self-driving, except for the implications of its name. Deceptive advertising = liability.

Tesla's system lulls the driver into thinking it's doing all the work, and doesn't do enough to verify that the driver is paying attention. Humans aren't good at things requiring full attention 1% of the time randomly. They'll be doing something else to occupy their mind, or sleeping.
 
Tesla's system lulls the driver into thinking it's doing all the work, and doesn't do enough to verify that the driver is paying attention. Humans aren't good at things requiring full attention 1% of the time randomly. They'll be doing something else to occupy their mind, or sleeping.
And to make it even worse BY DESIGN it completely shuts itself off, just as you really need it to do something.

"Better turn off Autopilot. Don't want to be in control for the actual impact. That's liability!"
 
Too lazy to find the link. A transport driver (guess where he lives?) got on the 401 in the wrong direction in Quinte. Cops caught him.
 
Too lazy to find the link. A transport driver (guess where he lives?) got on the 401 in the wrong direction in Quinte. Cops caught him.
No video.

 
Too lazy to find the link. A transport driver (guess where he lives?) got on the 401 in the wrong direction in Quinte. Cops caught him.
I'm always interested in how people think. Did the guy think it was OK because he was only using one lane and had his arm out the window waving people to go into the other lane.

He deserves the dangerous charge with his licence revoked until a psychiatric exam finds his brain and evaluates whether it can be reprogrammed. The school that taught him and the company that hired him need to be on the carpet as well.

We all make mistakes and there was an option.

Pull as far off the road as possible and light up every warning you can. Call the OPP and advise them you need traffic control to assist in a turn around. If the OPP says they need to do it the hard way with a heavy tow, suck it up, pay the bills and tickets. Go to sleep that night knowing you did as much as you could to avoid killing someone. Hopefully the courts will show some mercy.

Or cross your fingers, driving on, while waving for people to get out of your way. Pay with your licence and serious jail time if anyone is hurt.
 
Surprise, Surprise...it was a Brampton man! 🤷‍♂️
At least he was trying to get to an OnRoute to discard his pee bottles instead of tossing them out the window. Choosing the the closest OnRoute even if it requires driving into oncoming traffic shows a mental deficit.
 
Wasn't sure where to post it....


TLDR: Guy buys used Elantra N, takes it to the track multiple times, and then is shocked when Hyundai denies warranty on a new engine as the ECU recorded him exceeding red line multiple times...
 
Wasn't sure where to post it....


TLDR: Guy buys used Elantra N, takes it to the track multiple times, and then is shocked when Hyundai denies warranty on a new engine as the ECU recorded him exceeding red line multiple times...
Yeah. There was a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding in that whole thing. In the video, Kid argues that redline should be ok as he bought a Hyundai race car. That argument might hold water. Hyundai found he exceeded redline in which case Hyundai is in the clear. It's a standard so it's easy enough to go over if you're an idiot (especially if you think the warranty you bought is bulletproof). Kind of hard to exceed redline while doing drag runs though unless you are a complete dunce or disabled the limiter. It's a lot easier on a road course.
 
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