The Bad Drivers of Ontario Thread

Malks said:
Or what's moving in the opposite direction.;) Several years ago, coming home from the resort via Hockley Road, I was a little over the limit and spotted an OPP cruiser going the other way. He spotted me as well and lit up his lights and pulled a U-turn behind me. As soon as I saw his lights in my mirrors, I pulled over and stopped. I had already dismounted and removed my helmet by the time he pulled up. We had a nice chat about golf, the local area, how long I've lived in Orangeville and then he told me to watch my speed in this area because they had received so many complaints. The next few times I rode through Hockley Valley I saw the same officer and waved to him.
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I got a minor reputation for possible psychic abilities on group rides, in the area, because I would seemingly always reduce my speed just before a cop came around the corner. Truth was I just thought, "This would be a really bad time to see a cop" and slowed ;)
 
mimico_polak said:
Fail test, start fight with examiner...(according to Reddit).

https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/1facne8/fight_between_road_test_applicant_drive_test
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Some people think there is merit in vigilante justice, a point of view not shared by people that deserve it.

IMO people that can’t control their emotions should be banned from driving until they have mastered their demons.

I’m not sure what caused the failure but the streets are probably safer.
 
GreyGhost said:
Brampton again. Bad cyclist riding on sidewalk and failing to yield right of way vs bad teen driver that is seeing how fast moms SUV can launch with pedestrians around. Cyclist is in hospital, driver has a careless charge.

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I don't think the little girl bears any moral fault in this. Odds are the bicycle's tires were less than 50cm in diameter so legal on the sidewalk, at least under the bylaws. Technically she did break HTA140 (6) by riding in a crosswalk but hey, she's a kid. Adults don't even care about that and I see them doing it in downtown TO, constantly. Simple point is that the driver abrogated his duty of care, to play. Expected from a 17 year old, I guess, but then maybe you don't give that 17 year old a car to abuse.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
I don't think the little girl bears any moral fault in this. Odds are the bicycle's tires were less than 50cm in diameter so legal on the sidewalk, at least under the bylaws. Technically she did break HTA140 (6) by riding in a crosswalk but hey, she's a kid. Adults don't even care about that and I see them doing it in downtown TO, constantly. Simple point is that the driver abrogated his duty of care, to play. Expected from a 17 year old, I guess, but then maybe you don't give that 17 year old a car to abuse.
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Hard to tell wheel size from the video. Normally a kid is around 10 when they get wheels over 50 cm.

Independent of wheel size, I think the kids bears some fault. There was a vehicle waiting to go and she rode in front of it. Don't be an ass and pay attention to your surroundings. Kids screw up but I have been trying to get that lesson into my kids since they could walk. Obviously, the suv driver should have yielded regardless of any law or moral right of way.
 
GreyGhost said:
Hard to tell wheel size from the video. Normally a kid is around 10 when they get wheels over 50 cm.

Independent of wheel size, I think the kids bears some fault. There was a vehicle waiting to go and she rode in front of it. Don't be an ass and pay attention to your surroundings. Kids screw up but I have been trying to get that lesson into my kids since they could walk. Obviously, the suv driver should have yielded regardless of any law or moral right of way.
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I thought in Toronto the criteria was rider age. Under 14 you're OK on the sidewalk.

Is this a confusion in ages or a second event?

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It's hard to tell if the 12 YO girl looked or if things happened so fast there was no correction time.

In my case I still have both legs because I reacted to a suspicious situation and braked appropriately. A high performance car would be deadly as the cyclist's reaction time could be less than a second. It's sad that when out for a pleasure drive, ride or walk one must look at everything within sight and enter in a risk rating.
 
nobbie48 said:
I thought in Toronto the criteria was rider age. Under 14 you're OK on the sidewalk.

Is this a confusion in ages or a second event?

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It's hard to tell if the 12 YO girl looked or if things happened so fast there was no correction time.

In my case I still have both legs because I reacted to a suspicious situation and braked appropriately. A high performance car would be deadly as the cyclist's reaction time could be less than a second. It's sad that when out for a pleasure drive, ride or walk one must look at everything within sight and enter in a risk rating.
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Brampton bylaws regarding bicycles on sidewalks are different. Brampton is part of Peel Region, not Toronto.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Brampton bylaws regarding bicycles on sidewalks are different. Brampton is part of Peel Region, not Toronto.
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Thanks. I suspected so. Now when I ride my bike into Mississauga I have to re-map my brain. The same goes for numerous e-vehicles that are provincially approved but subject to municipal approval.

How many sellers of e-whatevers are going to mention the municipal bans?
 
nobbie48 said:
Thanks. I suspected so. Now when I ride my bike into Mississauga I have to re-map my brain. The same goes for numerous e-vehicles that are provincially approved but subject to municipal approval.

How many sellers of e-whatevers are going to mention the municipal bans?
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e-Vehicle owners don't really seem to care abut legality anyway. De-restrict, remove pedals, use where not permitted...
 
nobbie48 said:
The first easy step for e stuff would be the equivalent of the boaters card. Then they couldn’t cry ignorance.
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Without enforcement of existing laws, there is zero point enacting any more. It is very clear that police have zero interest in enforcing any law wrt e-anything. If they enforced existing laws, JP wouldn't give a toss if the moron riding an ebike at 80 km/h down a sidewalk had a course card or not.
 
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Gravel hauler with douche visor and bent bumper randomly barfs fuel while driving down the road causing a full hazmat response. Hopefully it gets a full MTO inspection before being allowed back on the road.

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Here's a good one, from Utah. Woman flees from police because "She doesn't want to deal with them" over a simple stop for cutting someone off. Could have been a warning. Turned into Felony Evasion.

 
Rob MacLennan said:
Here's a good one, from Utah. Woman flees from police because "She doesn't want to deal with them" over a simple stop for cutting someone off. Could have been a warning. Turned into Felony Evasion.

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Yeah I saw another one a month or so ago. Woman ignores cops trying to pull her over and drives home to 'take care of her kids'. Cops try to be nice about it and give her every opportunity to cooperate and they won't have to take her to jail. She fights them everyway possible making the biggest scene in the neighborhood I'm sure.

Then they run her and she had an arrestable bench warrant. Goodbye.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Here's a good one, from Utah. Woman flees from police because "She doesn't want to deal with them" over a simple stop for cutting someone off. Could have been a warning. Turned into Felony Evasion.

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Another shining example of more training required. When they boxed her in the first time, I have no idea why they left such a giant hole open nor why the cop walked so close to the back of her vehicle. If this was a black guy, they would have emptied all of their guns at that point. White woman gets an absolute pass.
 
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GreyGhost said:
Another shining example of more training required. When they boxed her in the first time, I have no idea why they left such a giant hole open nor why the cop walked so close to the back of her vehicle. If this was a black guy, they would have emptied all of their guns at that point. White woman gets an absolute pass.
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They had enough cars to box her in on all sides, then slow her to a stop. I kept looking at all the missed opportunities to PIT her into a field, in corners, where there was almost no traffic.
 
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