The Bad Drivers of Ontario Thread

[Mikedezo44]

Old story about motorcycle tests that used to be done on an airplane runway, drive back and forth. One guy told me he did a wheelie all the way down. Passed. lol.
I also failed G test once due to driving a standard transmission car and not downshifting through every gear.

As for scooters, there are lots. My dad bought one of these to bring on their travel trailer back in the day. I rode it to college quite a bit. They're fun, 2 strokes. Zippy off the line. The person that bought it off of us didn't care about the ownership, he was putting it in a shipping container to one of the islands down south where there was no importation paperwork.

 

[just-me]

It piss the Tester off when my dad failed his the first time. Kicked him out and drove away, since he already had his regular license.

Chauffeur's licence I got was just a written test, no driving. 1973.

 

[nobbie48]

Interesting. Stupid woman leaves her suv running while she goes into bank. SUV gets stolen and nearby boyfriend chases the thief in his truck. Both crash (no contact mentioned). Thief dies. Boyfriend gets multiple dangerous driving charges.

High-speed chase of stolen vehicle led to fatal Etobicoke crash

A crash in Etobicoke over the weekend that left a male driver dead was likely the result of a high-speed chase involving a stolen vehicle.

toronto.citynews.ca

I occasionally watch YouTube videos of police chases and it becomes painfully obvious that a felon driving a stolen car with illegal weapons and or drugs on board doesn't give a crap about cross traffic. So what was the guy in the pickup going to do/ A PIT maneuver?

The GF could buy a new car with the money that's going to be spent on legal fees.

In a hit and run, if safely possible to get close enough to get a plate number, get it and back off.

 

[GreyGhost]

I occasionally watch YouTube videos of police chases and it becomes painfully obvious that a felon driving a stolen car with illegal weapons and or drugs on board doesn't give a crap about cross traffic. So what was the guy in the pickup going to do/ A PIT maneuver?

The GF could buy a new car with the money that's going to be spent on legal fees.

In a hit and run, if safely possible to get close enough to get a plate number, get it and back off.

If you apply pressure, the thief will probably crash themselves (as it sounds like in this case). Now, that would still probably get you a 172 or dangerous charge. Also, in this case, stupid crashed himself which shows how out of control he was.

 

[nobbie48]

An american crosses into canada and quickly picks up a stunting ticket. He thought the signs saying 80 km/h really meant 80 mph and so he was cruising along at 90 mph. Whoops. Moron.

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I know a Kiwi who was posted to the US armed forces and with his wife driving was headed for Ottawa at the posted limit but using MPH. He reminded her their diplomatic immunity wasn't valid in Canada

 

[nobbie48]

Can't see that sticking unless the guy rammed the SUV.

Tragic ending, but I have a hard time mustering sympathy for a thief.

The legal bill will cost him five figures.

He has to say yes when crossing the border if asked if he has ever been charged

An accountant at t company I worked for did the same thing, left the car running to go into a bank. They found the car a week later with a few miles on it. Someone just didn't feel like walking back to work. Not worthy of the death penalty.

 

[nobbie48]

No they go to Guelph and clog up the whole thing there too. I really wish there was a rule that your road test had to be within 30 km of your home address or the closest station

Sent from the future

When you get your private pilot's licence it's for day flight only. You need a night endorsement for flying after sunset.

Same should be for cars. 400 series endorsement.

 

[GreyGhost]

When you get your private pilot's licence it's for day flight only. You need a night endorsement for flying after sunset.

Same should be for cars. 400 series endorsement.

I'd be fine with lots of endorsements actually. Imo, it's safer for a G driver to ride a scooter than it is to hop in a ludicrous plaid. I don't like restricting vehicles on the road but have no issue with drivers needing to prove they are capable of highways/power/size/etc. We all know riders that have harleys are completely incapable of passing tests on them. They pass the test on a 250 and then hop back on their huge bike to wobble through life.

 

[nobbie48]

Back then you needed a chauffeur's licence if you made money driving. I got a job driving a 1/2 ton delivery van so wrote the test. Now I can drive an 18 wheeler, not that I have ever sat in one. lol.
Did come in handy though, it "grandfathered" me when I did drive real trucks with air brakes.

Ditto. Sixteen years old and a chauffeurs licence. Learner permit one day and semi driver the next but the test had to be with a manual tranny.

I got my M at Keele and 401 on a course laid out by OPP Harleys. I took it on a 50cc Honda Cub.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

I don't know how many of you are aware of the work that's going on at the train bridge across Yonge, just north of Lakeshore. It has been down to one lane each way for months now, instead of two each way. On my way home from work Yonge was backed up, southbound. When I got to The Esplanade I could see why. There was an abandoned stalled SUV, with the hood up, blocking what would normally be the left southbound lane (now the only northbound). The police had just arrived shortly before I did. So at some point a line of cars had been stuck under the bridge, all the way from Lakeshore. I don't know if whoever it was just abandoned their SUV and walked away, or if they did anything to try and rectify the situation before leaving.

 

[nobbie48]

Interesting. Stupid woman leaves her suv running while she goes into bank. SUV gets stolen and nearby boyfriend chases the thief in his truck. Both crash (no contact mentioned). Thief dies. Boyfriend gets multiple dangerous driving charges.

High-speed chase of stolen vehicle led to fatal Etobicoke crash

A crash in Etobicoke over the weekend that left a male driver dead was likely the result of a high-speed chase involving a stolen vehicle.

toronto.citynews.ca

Thinking more about this: Stupidly lazy as well. Because she couldn't be bothered pulling the key out, one person is dead, she's in the hospital, two vehicles are wrecked, boyfriend is facing a crap load of criminal charges, likely with some convictions. The property damage to fences, poles and trees will be thousands. Insurance coverage on the pickup is doubtful and her SUV possibly as well, depending on whether the insurer looks at them participating in the chase.

All because she was too lazy.

People make crappy sloppy turns because they can't be bothered turning the steering wheel another quarter turn.

It takes so much energy to push the little turn signal lever.

 

[Mikedezo44]

Can't believe they let this guy get away the first time. How in the **** do you suspend a chase of a transport truck? Hang back a block or two and you will still see what direction it's going in. Are these guys taking drugs to make them stay awake longer that alter their thought processing? Scary.

Brampton, Ont. man charged with fleeing from police during traffic stop - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

Police said on March 10, at around 9:40 a.m., officers saw a tractor-trailer driving in a 'no heavy trucks' zone in the Williams Parkway and Dixie Road area.

globalnews.ca

 

[Baggsy]

Can't believe they let this guy get away the first time. How in the **** do you suspend a chase of a transport truck? Hang back a block or two and you will still see what direction it's going in. Are these guys taking drugs to make them stay awake longer that alter their thought processing? Scary.

Brampton, Ont. man charged with fleeing from police during traffic stop - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

Police said on March 10, at around 9:40 a.m., officers saw a tractor-trailer driving in a 'no heavy trucks' zone in the Williams Parkway and Dixie Road area.

globalnews.ca

Trucker Benny's were a thing 50+ years ago.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Can't believe they let this guy get away the first time. How in the **** do you suspend a chase of a transport truck? Hang back a block or two and you will still see what direction it's going in. Are these guys taking drugs to make them stay awake longer that alter their thought processing? Scary.

Brampton, Ont. man charged with fleeing from police during traffic stop - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

Police said on March 10, at around 9:40 a.m., officers saw a tractor-trailer driving in a 'no heavy trucks' zone in the Williams Parkway and Dixie Road area.

globalnews.ca

If he saw a cop in his mirrors, he'd be stepping on the gas. That's why you need helicopters. Once you know who he is it's relatively easy to just go and collect him when he doesn't have control of a 20 tonne weapon, near a school.

 

[Malks]

If he saw a cop in his mirrors, he'd be stepping on the gas. That's why you need helicopters. Once you know who he is it's relatively easy to just go and collect him when he doesn't have control of a 20 tonne weapon, near a school.

What I'm wondering is that the story suggests he stopped the first time on Williams Parkway. Did no one check his licence, or did he smooth talk his way out of that stop? According to the report, along with the other charges, he's also charged with driving while under suspension. I hope he spends at least a week in jail waiting for bail and then looses his licence for life!

 

[Rob MacLennan]

What I'm wondering is that the story suggests he stopped the first time on Williams Parkway. Did no one check his licence, or did he smooth talk his way out of that stop? According to the report, along with the other charges, he's also charged with driving while under suspension. I hope he spends at least a week in jail waiting for bail and then looses his licence for life!

It could have been as simple as him stopping, saying that he needs to get the insurance and registration from the glove box, then slamming the door and driving away. The name of the driver could have come from the company that owns the truck, at that point. Not enough information to make come to a conclusion.

 

[nobbie48]

If he saw a cop in his mirrors, he'd be stepping on the gas. That's why you need helicopters. Once you know who he is it's relatively easy to just go and collect him when he doesn't have control of a 20 tonne weapon, near a school.

A helicopter can't usually do a traffic stop unless it's a fully equipped Huey. The huge problem with chases is collateral damage.

Some truckers are delusional as well. More than one has told me theirs was faster off the line than a Corvette. Only if noise was speed.

A decade or two back an innocent diver was killed when a cement truck, trying to run from police, rolled over onto his car.

A friend had a low speed chase in his neighbourhood when an unattended dump truck was taken by a kid that just drove in circles around the block. Police just followed until he quit. Probably the best move.

 

[Ash]

When you get your private pilot's licence it's for day flight only. You need a night endorsement for flying after sunset.

Same should be for cars. 400 series endorsement.

Yup, roundabout endorsement. Snow-covered-road endorsement. I can think of a few others, but at some point they're mandatory minimum basic skills. I once watched someone spend 3 minutes trying to back out of a parking spot.

 

[GreyGhost]

Yup, roundabout endorsement. Snow-covered-road endorsement. I can think of a few others, but at some point they're mandatory minimum basic skills. I once watched someone spend 3 minutes trying to back out of a parking spot.

And they had passed at least one driving test. As for mandatory minimum basic, make the test longer to include those elements. If you take a test in a location that is missing elements, include the exclusions on your license (similar to X for glasses). Get caught on a 400 series highway with a 4 restriction and you get one warning and every subsequent time is a big fine. To remove restrictions and get up to minimum basic skills, book a new driving test that can include them all.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

A helicopter can't usually do a traffic stop unless it's a fully equipped Huey. The huge problem with chases is collateral damage.

Some truckers are delusional as well. More than one has told me theirs was faster off the line than a Corvette. Only if noise was speed.

A decade or two back an innocent diver was killed when a cement truck, trying to run from police, rolled over onto his car.

A friend had a low speed chase in his neighbourhood when an unattended dump truck was taken by a kid that just drove in circles around the block. Police just followed until he quit. Probably the best move.

Helicopters aren't for performing stops. They're used for observation. You follow the vehicle safely, without them knowing, and then send in the cars when they stop. With FLIR, automated tracking, and the like it makes following such vehicles fairly easy. Even tracking people when they dump the vehicle is possible.