Should men enter into marriage? Is it in their interest?

Should men get married today?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • No

    Votes: 23 60.5%
  • not sure

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • maybe if the laws were applied equally

    Votes: 7 18.4%

  • Total voters
    38
Someone posted an interested reference stat...85% of kids are awarded to the mother sole custody (presuming I read what they posted correctly)
How does one interpret this?
Only 15% of men are responsible or only 15% of women are irresponsible?
If that is the case then one can argue that women knew what they were getting into by having children.
Women made a decision based on an 85% stat that they will be on the hook for said child/children.:lmao::lmao:

I kid with the above post, but am serious as to how to interpret that 85% stat.

Either 85% of men truly suck as a parent or something doesn't seem balanced???

not sure I trust that stat, but as for why women are usually rewarded custody is financial,
they and their lawyers fight for this because it pays, most men don't have the stomach for the
fight with someone they want out of their life and usually cave and agree for the sake of the kids
 
When I was 16 I knew the deal, being informed should not be an exception it should be the rule. I am in the use protection and use your brain, be smart group. Again, if someone chooses to do something stupid, it was their choice. This is really not that complicated.

you actually belive that majority of 16 year olds are like you when you were 16
then you are the exception and special then, enjoy life
if everyone did the right thing like you we would not have all these laws/jails
we would not have all these court cases in 2017 dealing with the same issues from 2000
 
More ignorance and unaccountability by D.

BUT WHAT IF I DIDNT KNOW THE LAWS!!!???

Uh. That's your problem.
 
More ignorance and unaccountability by D.

BUT WHAT IF I DIDNT KNOW THE LAWS!!!???

Uh. That's your problem.

uhm you are dodging your own position
post up the law for which you claimed that a common law partner can not make a property claim

still waiting for you big guy...or be man and admit you are wrong:hiding:
 
"Yes" hovering right around 8.7%. What do these people know that the others don't?
 
uhm you are dodging your own position
post up the law for which you claimed that a common law partner can not make a property claim

still waiting for you big guy...or be man and admit you are wrong:hiding:

you are right, child support is the only part of the process that is legislated

every other part of divorce can be litigated
 
uhm you are dodging your own position
post up the law for which you claimed that a common law partner can not make a property claim

still waiting for you big guy...or be man and admit you are wrong:hiding:
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90f03

Read section one definition of a spouse.

Then read about property and matrimonial homes in secs 4 5 17 18

Big guy.
 
you are right, child support is the only part of the process that is legislated

every other part of divorce can be litigated
He's wrong. Common law vs marriage. Totally different when it comes to property rights.
 
He's wrong. Common law vs marriage. Totally different when it comes to property rights.

damn you really are obtuse and live in your own bubble
I said for you to post what a title claim to property is...still waiting
you will keep posting everything but that...huh
oh what about the rest of Canada?

I am done replying to you.
My head hearts now debating with a willfully obtuse person.
 
damn you really are obtuse and live in your own bubble
I said for you to post what a title claim to property is...still waiting
you will keep posting everything but that...huh
oh what about the rest of Canada?

I am done replying to you.
My head hearts now debating with a willfully obtuse person.
So far I've linked to the actual laws in 3 posts. You've linked YouTube.


Go ahead big guy start showing us the laws. Show me where a common law partner in Ontario (we live in this province) can make a property title claim. Show me.
 
you are right, child support is the only part of the process that is legislated

every other part of divorce can be litigated

And again he avoids that part...and the cost of that is??? maybe he has a groupon for legal services
he lives in a bubble, he thinks he will just sit at table with his ex-wife at that time and just type it up and say here you go, all legal and ready to go.
I wrote it so it must be legal and right...no problemo:lmao:
 
And again he avoids that part...and the cost of that is??? maybe he has a groupon for legal services
he lives in a bubble, he thinks he will just sit at table with his ex-wife at that time and just type it up and say here you go, all legal and ready to go.
I wrote it so it must be legal and right...no problemo:lmao:
Damn you're twisted.

The man can make all the same claims. The situations can be completely reversed when the woman is the earner. Don't you get it?

Beta.
 
He's wrong. Common law vs marriage. Totally different when it comes to property rights.

guess I'll engage you again on this topic as you seem to be intelligent, though naive

when things break down, and there's blood in the water, a woman feeling scorned and her lawyer will resort to tactics that will curl your nose hairs,
again, only thing that cannot be litigated is child support, and this is after the custody battle, if any, has been settled

you can quote all the statutes you want, in a real fight it takes years until it's in front of a family court, in the meantime the lawyers will
threaten everything under the sun to gain some for their client and get the fees up, if it does see a family court, first thing established is if
custody and child support are settled and being paid, if that's satisfied the judges often call it a day and let the lawyers do their thing until
it's settled out of court, and in that scenario EVERYTHING is in play
 
Am in the top 10% of income and asset holders in the US, so will never marry nor live with a woman again. Way too much to lose - and am far happier with my freedom than I ever was with a woman. Don't want to end up one of those rich guys that gets married and then gets taken to the cleaners by some lying gold digger. Not going to happen. Will gratefully die alone. Did it in the past, but was po then. Was divorced/broked up relatively po too, so it didn't count. Having a lot of experience, am now immune to life's illusions and enchantments (aka - marriage/love).

Unsurprisingly, there are blue-pill men in the thread, donning their white knight uniforms, insisting that men should quiver with joy at the idea of marriage - else immature/unmarriageable/cowards/small pee-pee/etc (common shaming tactics). Hilarious. Those are the future divorce rape suckers right there, ladies. Have at 'em. The womenz love their blue-pillers.

Only women benefit from marriage - despite what the lying stories in women's magazines and liberal news articles say (muh empowerment articles). Tis because they have the babies and need a body guard - which is why the vast majority of the dangerous, potentially life threatening jobs are done by men and manly lesbians and why we have a male-only draft in the lower 48. Tis also why women are given probation and suspended sentences while men are shuffled off to prison post-haste.

If I were a woman - given how the deck is heavily stacked in my favor - I'd have no problem with marriage. However, being a man, you'd have to pay me big bucks to even consider the notion - and I'd still be all like "nah". Marriage only benefits women and the state (taxes and new tax slaves). Men are just tricked into it via blue-pill preachers (one or two here) wanting to maintain the status quo and loving that forced wealth and power transfer from men to women and the state. Tis why the vast majority of alimony, asset division and child support flows from men to women (talking the US), why single men with no children have to have maternity coverage (and whatever other coverage they used to not pay for thanks to Obamacare) and why the majority of state and federal spending on health, education and welfare goes to women - even though men pay the majority of taxes and always have.

Tis a woman's world. Marriage only benefits women. Men that do it are just brain dead suckers like I once was. You have two choices: (1) get married and have your life ruined like tens upon tens of millions of men before you, which is why men commit suicide so often, or (2) stay single and free and take no ***** from nobody. Having done both, I feel pretty dang dumb ever having selected option (1) - which is why I'm the WisestManOnEarth and a firm believer in option (2).

This needs another reading. Also worth mentioning is romantic love is kinda a farce.
 
guess I'll engage you again on this topic as you seem to be intelligent, though naive

when things break down, and there's blood in the water, a woman feeling scorned and her lawyer will resort to tactics that will curl your nose hairs,
again, only thing that cannot be litigated is child support, and this is after the custody battle, if any, has been settled

you can quote all the statutes you want, in a real fight it takes years until it's in front of a family court, in the meantime the lawyers will
threaten everything under the sun to gain some for their client and get the fees up, if it does see a family court, first thing established is if
custody and child support are settled and being paid, if that's satisfied the judges often call it a day and let the lawyers do their thing until
it's settled out of court, and in that scenario EVERYTHING is in play

Conflict resolution in divorce law doesn't even register with lawyers. Until you run out of assets. Then it's a rubber stamp. I have seen this up close.
 
guess I'll engage you again on this topic as you seem to be intelligent, though naive

when things break down, and there's blood in the water, a woman feeling scorned and her lawyer will resort to tactics that will curl your nose hairs,
again, only thing that cannot be litigated is child support, and this is after the custody battle, if any, has been settled

you can quote all the statutes you want, in a real fight it takes years until it's in front of a family court, in the meantime the lawyers will
threaten everything under the sun to gain some for their client and get the fees up, if it does see a family court, first thing established is if
custody and child support are settled and being paid, if that's satisfied the judges often call it a day and let the lawyers do their thing until
it's settled out of court, and in that scenario EVERYTHING is in play
So your argument is that courts and lawyers are expensive.

And to that I say duh.

The laws don't discriminate between men and women and this is a fact. It's up to you to hire a good lawyer. The situation can be reversed if the woman makes more money and THAT is my point. It just so happens that most men end up working while women take care of the household.

Know the law, know your rights, make the right decisions. Ignorance is no excuse.
 
So your argument is that courts and lawyers are expensive.

And to that I say duh.

The laws don't discriminate between men and women and this is a fact. It's up to you to hire a good lawyer. The situation can be reversed if the woman makes more money and THAT is my point. It just so happens that most men end up working while women take care of the household.

Know the law, know your rights, make the right decisions. Ignorance is no excuse.

Naive....
 
Naive....
Spent 7 years in the courts. Couldn't be less naive about the reality of the system.

Not one of you has demonstrated inequality in the LAWS. All you can offer is anecdotal evidence...And I have to keep repeating that the situations can be flipped when the woman makes more. But men are idiots who put themselves in positions of weakness through ignorance. It's not the fault of the law.
 
Was not true in my case, unfortunately. I am a dude.
The law.. as in the letter of the law. Not what happens in court when lawyers get involved. Sorry to hear you got the **** end of the stick, really. I never once said it doesn't happen.

People aren't catching the distinction.
 
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