Should men enter into marriage? Is it in their interest?

Should men get married today?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 10.5%

  • No

    Votes: 23 60.5%

  • not sure

    Votes: 4 10.5%

  • maybe if the laws were applied equally

    Votes: 7 18.4%
  • Total voters
    38
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inreb said:
An actual woman? It's been a long time, let's just say that. By choice. I could have some real winners living here. Maybe it says something about me and I'll take my lumps if it does. Every woman I've dated after age 30 or so brought nothing to the table except her pussy and a list of wants and desires. It's not so obvious upon a casual perusal but when you really look at it that's what comes down to. Also women can't make me laugh. That's probably the biggy.
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Last girl that hit on me was a late 20s something. BTW, I'm not 20s anymore...that was so decades ago. Came to me braless and alone, with baited breath. Mmmmm. Ain't falling for that one - though I was greatly tempted. Those pretty eyes. That long, flowing hair. Those full lips. That little waist. That sweet voice. Those wide hips. Mmmmm. Mmmmmm. A part of our conversation was how badly she wanted kids and how disappointed she was that no other men had manned up that were capable of providing her with the life she'd always dreamed possible. Just to see if she was for real, I asked her for her phone number, which she gave upon request. Coulda...woulda...shoulda tagged a younger hottie. Cursed my knowledge of life and its inner workings for months thereafter. Mmmmm.

The other recent one was an old married flame from days long past and she came under the guise of 'flying into town on a temporary assignment'. Wanted to know if we could get together for 'old time's sake'. Yeah. Shoulda saw through that one coming too...but didn't. Two or three drinks into dinner and she was like, "We can have sex anytime you want back at my hotel." Good thing I know what I'm doing, cause I can just imagine her husband showing up at my abode after finding my number in her phone records during the divorce thingy. She told me enough for me to realize she was trying to trade up. Even took a call from her husband mid-way through dinner...but did it only after walking several feet away. Heard her mention something about having dinner with a girl from work. Not good.

BTW, I'm 'well off', so this is a fairly usual occurrence in my life. It has nothing to do with me. I'm just fortunate enough to have a lot of money. Money brings with it opportunity...and certain well disguised pitfalls.
 
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mmmnaked said:
Tell us more about being well off
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I would...but you know how jealous people can get. Having said that... Tons of cash stuffed away. Still working because I'm just 'that greedy'. Never having to worry about bills. Turning women down...cause principles. Wasting money on stupid decisions...only to later realize that I just don't really care. Life of total irresponsibility. A life without cares. A life of little concern.

Being wealthy isn't really as grand as one might think. One gets stingy. Even I don't spend it. It's as if it really belongs to a former self and that I only exist to protect 'my precious'. Just enjoy having so much of it fluffing the pillow of my life's blessings. It wasn't always that way. Did in fact start from humble beginnings. It's not as though I'm better than anyone else. It's just that I'm a whole lot luckier. Someone up there deemed me a fool in need of special protection. That's how I really see it. Really.
 
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I know, right. Have worked since the day I turned 14. At some point, I figured out the trick in life. Only work in jobs that pay you a whole ton of money to be 'that good'. Most of my work is geared toward becoming amazingly talented - at least in the eyes of the lessor skilled. That, in and of itself, keeps me rocking on.
 
from a female's perspective, I too have seen a lot of guys taken to the cleaners by their ex wives...went to school with a lady in 2004 that was getting $2500/month in alimony plus child support and she got the house mortgage free...only reason she was going back to school was because her alimony (spousal support) was about to run out...another lady I know (she was married to a friend of my ex) was getting $1200/month for 3 kids plus the house...when my ex and I split, we did an even 50/50 down the line...no kids, no support on either side, no lawyers...quick and easy...

i'm kind of in the same position as wisestmanonearth (although it sounds he has WAY more money than I do) is...single, financially stable with a good future nest egg built up and current bf is pushing for marriage because he's so deep in debt that I am his pie in the sky so to speak...no thanks, not going there...

so is it in men's interest's to get married?...in most cases, probably not if it comes to divorce, but in some cases where she is the breadwinner, then yes...
 
Ok folks. I don't normally do this. This is it. I feel as though I have to share. All of life's answers can be found right here. If you're not mentally prepared, don't dare listen or watch. This is brutal. Here goes:

[video=youtube;3sQEb9TSACY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sQEb9TSACY[/video]
 
ifiddles said:
i'm kind of in the same position as wisestmanonearth (although it sounds he has WAY more money than I do) is...single, financially stable with a good future nest egg built up and current bf is pushing for marriage because he's so deep in debt that I am his pie in the sky so to speak...no thanks, not going there...

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Ok , now I'm intrigued. Why would any girl that seems to have some stuff figured out date the BF up to his arse in debt??? Isn't life to short to invest any time in that sort of shhitte? Get a dog.

I know guys date girls with debt to the ears and a bad car and a string of losers BF that are doing 3-5yrs in side, because those young lady's have endearing charm.
 
Ok. I really have to apologize for my last post. Don't know from whence that perverted video birthed. Terrible. Just terrible. We all know that consent is most crucial in intimate relationships. No means yes. Stop means go. It's all very fundamental. Here's the video I meant to post. This video...and I promise I have the correct one this time...is far more crucial in our efforts to understand modern day relationships between the sexes. Again...please forgive me. I had no idea I was posting such brazenness and utter perversion. The following video is far more family oriented...let me assure you. Please accept my sincere apologies:



[video=youtube;UTUL6P6mQAg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTUL6P6mQAg[/video]
 
crankcall said:
Ok , now I'm intrigued. Why would any girl that seems to have some stuff figured out date the BF up to his arse in debt??? Isn't life to short to invest any time in that sort of shhitte? Get a dog.

I know guys date girls with debt to the ears and a bad car and a string of losers BF that are doing 3-5yrs in side, because those young lady's have endearing charm.
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Two reasons...1) because all wasn't disclosed until recently and 2) my crash and death of my mom last August pushed him to show his true colours which is why I put the brakes on...but that's besides the point...

Was just trying to show it's not always favourable for women either...but yeah, in most cases, men do lose out big time...
 
ifiddles said:
Two reasons...1) because all wasn't disclosed until recently and 2) my crash and death of my mom last August pushed him to show his true colours which is why I put the brakes on...but that's besides the point...

Was just trying to show it's not always favourable for women either...but yeah, in most cases, men do lose out big time...
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stop the presses yall...a rare and reasonable type woman :)

curious question, it took those tragic events for you to see his true colors?
uhm something tells me you knew earlier

I ask this because as the 2 amigos in this thread keep saying what a great ability of picking their mates and the rest of us suck.
 
I don't think its great ability vs suck. I think it comes down to a couple simple things at my house
1. neither of us have found a new sex mate, and haven't had a reason to go looking
2. I'm not (nor she) going to put us in an impossible financial situation
3. If there was ever a serious issue with the kids WE talked about it first and had a unified plan, then backed each other up.

My guess is so many couple have dozens of little things that lead to enormous things, they think if I ignore it it goes away not festers. Common sense, not so common.
 
You're old as dirt and grew up outdoors. The wife has a good job. If you can't make it work what are the odds for downtowners?
 
My gf of 3yrs had a 55k school debt I knew about from the start. She was also unemployed while working on her Masters (her third degree). Didn't matter to me. Within a few months she had a career and wiped out that debt on her own in one year. Now when we peruse motorcycle shops she offers to buy me any bike I want (I don't take her up on the offer but that's just the sweet person she is). My situation is of minority I'm sure but since the question of dating someone with debt was raised this is my experience.
 
inreb said:
You're old as dirt and grew up outdoors. The wife has a good job. If you can't make it work what are the odds for downtowners?
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Your right on all three, I grew up responsible for myself and on a farm. Wife has a pretty good job. Not everyday was feeding the unicorns and watching rainbows, but if 51% of the days are good days your winning.

I still think people don't look far enough down the road when choosing. Its a marriage not a business plan, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't think about where you'd like to be in 5,10,15yrs (if you get there)

I hear so many horror stories about she wants me to quit hockey, sell my bike, no boys weekends......... WHY??? do you come home from hockey half in the bag, are you an idiot on the bike and collect tickets? Did you buy a 15K bike on finance? Do you allow her girls weekends or does she watch the kids while you go fishing? There is always three sides to every story.

Some women and men deserve the divorce they get.
 
crankcall said:
Some women and men deserve the divorce they get.
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Both men and women need to be grounded in reality. How many times have I seen couples where you think to yourself these two deserve each other. It's a train wreck right off the hop. Reality, not fantasy, is going to carry the day. That's why I get unnerved by female media content. They are being shovelled a load of **** and gleefully buying it. On the other side I see a lot of guys living an alternate reality. Only difference being men build and maintain the world that provides all the material comforts and security.
 
One of the few instances where it's cheaper to rent than own.
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