Money = Success? Moved from Pannon Thread

In her own words; "I try to give to the poor people for love what the rich could get for money. No, I wouldn't touch a leper for a thousand pounds; yet I willingly cure him for the love of God."
And: "Our life of poverty is as necessary as the work itself. Only in heaven will we see how much we owe to the poor for helping us to love God better because of them."

Since you categorically claim that money equals success, as if you are speaking for everyone, then I only need one example to disprove it.


You've misunderstood her quote. What she is saying that she wouldnt cure the leaper for money, but for love. This means that money doesnt motivate her. What it doesnt say is that she wouldnt be just as successful if she had lots of money to help that leper.
Once again, please tell me how any of this disproves the fact that if she had money she would be much more successful in her endeavours? If Mother Teresa had a billion dollars, do you seriously believe she wouldnt have been able to do far more than if she had naught? Seriously??




"Of course"? It's not that obvious. I have spoken to a few people who tell me they love money itself. Of course I don't believe them, they are just lazy thinkers. They bought into the shorthand expression "money equals happiness" as if that were the end of the story. It's not hard to find hardworking, miserable rich people. So it's a misleading trope that really needs to be discarded. The reality is more along the lines of money being a tool amongst many that can be used to acheive happiness. For most people it might be the single most effective tool, but there are other powerful tools available too like discovery, development, experimenting, organising. These get overlooked. However, the untold prerequisite to make use of any of these is that people have to know what makes them happy! In my experience there are far too many who still don't know what that is. They haven't even bother to ask themselves the question because they are too busy trying to get money.

Money equals happiness is as true as saying that water equals health. We are after all 75% water and it's what we consume the most of every day, and we die faster from lack of water than lack of food. But try it and see how healthy you get by only drinking water.

Again, who cares what one or two or three people believe, think or feel. Its irrelevant. Anecdotal evidence is nonsense.

The rest of this post has been covered over and over again, I dont know why it keeps going over your head. Without money you cannot do the things that make you happy no matter how much personal discovery you undergo to find out what makes you happy. If you realize that making wicker baskets makes you happy, without the money to buy the materials you wont be able to make those baskets and you wont be happy. Again...at the end of the day, you need money to indulge in whatever you feel makes you happy.


Discussing the pursuit of money is another discussion, but again without money for the vast majority of people on this planet it equates to unhappiness. This isnt an opinion, its a fact, backed up by numerous studies and research. To simply disprove this, give up every cent you have, every possession you have and then get back to us about your happiness....with like a carrier pigeon (actually no they need to be fed)...so you'd have to use smoke signals or something.
 
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Yes...tons of it. Add up how much time you spend running your life.

Easy you solve the time problem by getting a GF/wife, no laundry, no cooking, etc. And she will have sex with you. And flowers don't cost much!
 
Can we put up a survey. The question " would your life be happier if your income was less?"

Nothing else, not you had to work more or less etc. Just strictly would you be happier if you made less money. I'm sure 100 percent would answer no.
 
Easy you solve the time problem by getting a GF/wife, no laundry, no cooking, etc. And she will have sex with you. And flowers don't cost much!

You don't know women very well do ya, they get really horny doing all the work while you have free time..ha!
 
I was arguing against the whole MORE money equals MORE happiness. In my endeavors money plays a small role. Past a certain point more money would't give me more happiness because they can't buy some experiences. In regards to freedom I have met quite a few low income people that decided to travel around the world for over a year. They seemed to be the happiest people I have met. I doubt the rich guy that has to pay for all his toys can just pack it for a year.

See this is such nonsense. If someone handed you a suitcase with $50 Million in there I guarantee 2 things with absolute certainty...1) You would NEVER give that money back or refuse it. 2) You would go on the best mountain adventure, Himalayas, K2, Mont Blanc whatever and it would blow the doors of any experience you have ever had before.
 
See this is such nonsense. If someone handed you a suitcase with $50 Million in there I guarantee 2 things with absolute certainty...1) You would NEVER give that money back or refuse it. 2) You would go on the best mountain adventure, Himalayas, K2, Mont Blanc whatever and it would blow the doors of any experience you have ever had before.


****ing right . That's sounds like a silly walk up a mountain even I might want to do
 
See this is such nonsense. If someone handed you a suitcase with $50 Million in there I guarantee 2 things with absolute certainty...1) You would NEVER give that money back or refuse it. 2) You would go on the best mountain adventure, Himalayas, K2, Mont Blanc whatever and it would blow the doors of any experience you have ever had before.

Stop with the ridiculous scenarios.

I could offer a dying billionaire on his sick bed a suitcase with 365 days worth of life in trade for his and his families fortune...........................................blah blah blah.
 
If money = happiness why i'm leaving early from work on Friday afternoon, instead of working overtime??

Why do i watch the leafs???

Why do i prefer to own old ****** bikes instead of new ones(which i could afford)???

Why do i work and live in Canada, when i could move my family and take a job with a schoolmate down in Florida which pays a lot more money????
 
Stop with the ridiculous scenarios.

I could offer a dying billionaire on his sick bed a suitcase with 365 days worth of life in trade for his and his families fortune...........................................blah blah blah.

No you couldn't that is the most ridiculous scenario because it couldn't happen. A briefcase full of money isnt reasonable but at least possible. Change the briefcase to a lottery win, inheritance whatever
 
No you couldn't that is the most ridiculous scenario because it couldn't happen. A briefcase full of money isnt reasonable but at least possible. Change the briefcase to a lottery win, inheritance whatever

Someone walking around with a suitcase full with $50 million dollars?

You've been watching too many Robert Redford/Demi Moore movies...........
 
If money = happiness why i'm leaving early from work on Friday afternoon, instead of working overtime??

Why do i watch the leafs???

Why do i prefer to own old ****** bikes instead of new ones(which i could afford)???

Why do i work and live in Canada, when i could move my family and take a job with a schoolmate down in Florida which pays a lot more money????

It's really hard to get a work permit in the us so not really a sacrifice on your part

Everything you mentioned still costs money, leafs, old bikes. That isn't free! And overtime sucks and isn't worth it unless you need the money which you clearly don't. Now...if your wife got sick and money would save her you would be working overtime like crazy to get that money.
 
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Someone walking around with a suitcase full with $50 million dollars?

You've been watching too many Robert Redford/Demi Moore movies...........

Open your mind and read the rest, lottery win , inheritance. Change the number from 50 million to 50 thousand. No one would turn it down still
 
Stop with the ridiculous scenarios.

I could offer a dying billionaire on his sick bed a suitcase with 365 days worth of life in trade for his and his families fortune...........................................blah blah blah.

Whooooosh thats the sound of the point flying over your head.
 
Oh also if you offer the old dying man a briefcase full of money he will still take it and not refuse it. So the point of offering life is moot as he would still take the money too. It's human nature.
 
Someone walking around with a suitcase full with $50 million dollars?

You've been watching too many Robert Redford/Demi Moore movies...........

You are a GTA site supporter. Didn't it make you happy to send the money to support a site that makes you happy?? Therefore...money brought you happiness. Booya!
 
See this is such nonsense. If someone handed you a suitcase with $50 Million in there I guarantee 2 things with absolute certainty...1) You would NEVER give that money back or refuse it. 2) You would go on the best mountain adventure, Himalayas, K2, Mont Blanc whatever and it would blow the doors of any experience you have ever had before.

Your example is unrealistic. No one gets a suitcase full of money. However, earning $50 million requires a lot of work and sacrifice. Your example that I have to go on and adventure in the Himalayas, K2 or Mont Blanc reflects your flawed thinking that I have to do more, MUCH MORE to be happy. If I had your way of looking at things summing K2 would't make me happy. I would have to get to the moon to summit something there. I am happy with what I did and I know I will continue to do things that make me happy without that suitcase full of money.

Oh and many lottery winners end up in a financial situation that's worse than what they had. Shows that money wase't their problem to begin with.
 
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You are a GTA site supporter. Didn't it make you happy to send the money to support a site that makes you happy?? Therefore...money brought you happiness. Booya!

Access to a larger PM inbox, ability to read Tafb's closed threads and a cute blue site supporter really made me happy.

Boy, if it wasn't for those things i wouldn't be here.
 
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