Not if you have to fix the roof, furnace, pay property taxes, insurance, maintenance
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Not if you have to fix the roof, furnace, pay property taxes, insurance, maintenance
but that's good parenting not a monetary issue. Are you saying you cant have money and have a good time with your kids?
invictus43
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Philanthropy means "love of humanity". Only you can know if you're giving money away to try to make others feel better or to make yourself feel better.
Philanthropy means "love of humanity". Only you can know if you're giving money away to try to make others feel better or to make yourself feel better.
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As i mentioned different strokes for different folks. For you what makes life tick obviously is money, i am different.
You = Gin and Tonic and a Cuban cigar.
Me = Pint of guinness and Du maurier.
Envy?? I don't know i haven't met your wife or tasted her cooking yet
But to say money is the answer is not true in my world, example this morning the hobo's just waking up from their wine hangover this morning seemed a hella of lot happier than Mr Smooth Bastard in his cut suit that had to get his vanilla latte at Starbucks pronto.
As i mentioned different strokes for different folks. For you what makes life tick obviously is money, i am different.
You = Gin and Tonic and a Cuban cigar.
Me = Pint of guinness and Du maurier.
Envy?? I don't know i haven't met your wife or tasted her cooking yet
But to say money is the answer is not true in my world, example this morning the hobo's just waking up from their wine hangover this morning seemed a hella of lot happier than Mr Smooth Bastard in his cut suit that had to get his vanilla latte at Starbucks pronto.
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both. Karma is a b,,t.h I want to make happy
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You are so full of Stereo types it's hilarious. Gin and tonics and cigars are for posers. And I haven't ever tasted a vanilla latte. However I am wearing a plaid jacket from marks work wear house and walmart running shoes while drinking a monster energy drink. Open your mind. That hobo isn't happy ...he has mental problems that don't allow him to grasp his situation. As for my wife she is hot successful and loves to cook. She also grew up so broke that she had to steal tomatoes from the neighbors yard to eat sometimes. So I love to do special things for her and take her places she never saw when she grew up
I didn't say the envy was directed at me.As i mentioned different strokes for different folks. For you what makes life tick obviously is money, i am different.
You = Gin and Tonic and a Cuban cigar.
Me = Pint of guinness and Du maurier.
Envy?? I don't know i haven't met your wife or tasted her cooking yet
But to say money is the answer is not true in my world, example this morning the hobo's just waking up from their wine hangover this morning seemed a hella of lot happier than Mr Smooth Bastard in his cut suit that had to get his vanilla latte at Starbucks pronto.
You are so full of Stereo types it's hilarious. Gin and tonics and cigars are for posers. And I haven't ever tasted a vanilla latte. However I am wearing a plaid jacket from marks work wear house and walmart running shoes while drinking a monster energy drink. Open your mind. That hobo isn't happy ...he has mental problems that don't allow him to grasp his situation. As for my wife she is hot successful and loves to cook. She also grew up so broke that she had to steal tomatoes from the neighbors yard to eat sometimes. So I love to do special things for her and take her places she never saw when she grew up
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Cognitive dissonance anyone?
Cognitive dissonance anyone?
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. Haha true. I thought that after I typed it. Thanks for pointing it out Frasier crane
frekeyguy
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Buy a house, 300k, 25yr roof, 25yr furnace…..etc.
Mortage would be around $1100/month, taxes $200/month = $1300 + $250/heat+hydro à $1550 ….same house would rent for $1400-$1600/month.
Pay out for 25 years, you’d have your 300k investment + appreciation back…..even if you are paying $500/month extra for a mortaged home…over a 25 year span, you’d see the 150k back in appreciation….
Vs. NOTHING back….
also rent will ALWAYS keep going up....vs mortage will stay the same, property taxes remain more or less the same...
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Like flashmonkey said, it's a question of goals. If Mother Theresa had been rich she would have been a failure, because her goal was to share the suffering of the poor and infirm.
Money doesn't equal happiness, unless you get a hard on for the look and smell and feel of cash, or something like that.
Maybe you can do something with money that makes you happy, but then that's the thing that's bringing you happiness and not the money. It's worth exploring. What would you do with a bunch of money that would make you happy? Buy a house? Go live in a warm developing country? Get an education? Buy smack and hos?
The funny thing is once you answer that question, you start to answer what it is that makes you happy. It's what those things bring you that you need to be happy. Shelter? Safety? Security? Hope for the future? Relaxation? Distraction?
But it's almost certainly not money.
Like flashmonkey said, it's a question of goals. If Mother Theresa had been rich she would have been a failure, because her goal was to share the suffering of the poor and infirm.
Money doesn't equal happiness, unless you get a hard on for the look and smell and feel of cash, or something like that.
Maybe you can do something with money that makes you happy, but then that's the thing that's bringing you happiness and not the money. It's worth exploring. What would you do with a bunch of money that would make you happy? Buy a house? Go live in a warm developing country? Get an education? Buy smack and hos?
The funny thing is once you answer that question, you start to answer what it is that makes you happy. It's what those things bring you that you need to be happy. Shelter? Safety? Security? Hope for the future? Relaxation? Distraction?
But it's almost certainly not money.
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jolomatic
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What a happy world it would be for homeowners if the expense ended there. Lawn mower, driveway sealant, replace a door or window, fix a leak, buy a new washer/dryer/fridge/stove/furnace, repaint a room, replace a carpet, etc, etc, that renters never have to think about, much less pay for.
I agree with your point about getting it back in the end (after 25 years); but what could you have done with that $50,000.00 downpayment? How much extra spending cash could the interest payments on that have made you over 25 years?
Property can certainly be a good investment over time, no question, but it is not necessarily the best thing you could be doing to get ahead.
this works well if property values go up. Let's see where they are a year from now.
I remember way back on 60 minutes, they interviewed some dame who married into the Gucci family and it was a complete train wreck...her quote: "I'd rather be crying in a Rolls Royce than smiling on a bicycle"....I still chuckle
imo...money can do one very positive thing...it can alleviate stress....and that is make you "debt free"....less stress = more happiness
yeah yeah....aside from the monthly costs of living etc...cause there will always be bills to pay....
if you have a shot at workhorse hours to make real good money that'll have your mortgage paid off in 10 years instead of 30 years...would you do it?
regardless of risk on health or relationships....I think if the opportunity arises then you grab the bull by the horns and go for it
you hit 40 years old and you have zero mortgage with 25 years to go in career earnings...so then you pick your flavour in terms of living within your means and can either slow down, keep going at the same pace, or even speed up
imo...money can do one very positive thing...it can alleviate stress....and that is make you "debt free"....less stress = more happiness
yeah yeah....aside from the monthly costs of living etc...cause there will always be bills to pay....
if you have a shot at workhorse hours to make real good money that'll have your mortgage paid off in 10 years instead of 30 years...would you do it?
regardless of risk on health or relationships....I think if the opportunity arises then you grab the bull by the horns and go for it
you hit 40 years old and you have zero mortgage with 25 years to go in career earnings...so then you pick your flavour in terms of living within your means and can either slow down, keep going at the same pace, or even speed up
First we need to stop with these anecdotal examples "I know so and so and he/she is whatever" these are meaningless when it comes to an abstract topic such as this. For every anecdotal example you can give I can give one that is the opposite. Mother Teresa had a convection to help the needy. Rich or poor she would be doing this. You have no idea if she would have been a failure if she was rich, that's an assumption on your part.
Secondly, of course money in and of itself doesnt bring you happiness. It's just a piece of paper or numbers on your computer screen. This is again an obvious point and not worth discussing.
I have stated more than once it's the opportunities and freedom that money affords you that make you happy. Be it car, bikes, houses, track days, vacations or hoes. None of those things are free. So like it or not without money you don't have access to those things.
jolomatic
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Yes you are right, but you are ignoring half of the picture, which is: what did you have to do to get the money?
So yeah, all other things being the same, it is easy to be happier with more money than less - but usually all other things will not be the same if money is at the top of your list for priorities.
really depends on ones situation......if your mortgage is $2000 a month and property tax is $500 then not so much.
That is an entirely different discussion. People's priorities can vary drastically due to a number of things, current economic status, work ethic, ambition, family pressure, and mental well being. Your right all other things will not be the same so the only constant variable is money. The fact remains even with all the variables that an individual may have, for the vast majority of people on this planet lack off or having an abundance of money will have an impact on their happiness.
Air is necessary but not sufficient for life - you'll die without it, but just because you can breathe doesn't guarantee that you will live, either.
Similarly, money is necessary but not sufficient for happiness (at least in this world).
How much money is necessary will vary from person to person.
Similarly, money is necessary but not sufficient for happiness (at least in this world).
How much money is necessary will vary from person to person.
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