LMAO@ Ducati 1199's dyno number

..........suddenly a debate about 'common sense' breaks out in a thread thats splitting hairs over the highest hp numbers in the motorcycle world......haha!......ironic. Hopefully this will turn into an "opinion-fest" about who's using the most common sense while going over 280 km/h.

Every documented test has the BMW ahead of the GSXR......I will believe that over some random guys stories about beating them over 280 on the street. The Demographic of BMW and Ducati owners is significantly older and wealthier over GSXR owners......meaning they have much more to lose street racing. Again, common sense.
Go to a Mosport track day.........1 mile straight away, let us know how it works out.
 
I should have a disclaimer in my signature that says: "Don't take offence to anything I say as I am usually laughing when I write them"......except when I'm trying to insult a Ducati. I take that very seriously!
 
You know, murf....... once you put the 'zuki in track trim, the BMW hasn't been troubling it much. That BMW motor needs a pro to make the best use of it - it's peaky and the midrange is more like a 750 with a giant kick. Without traction control, that motor would be pretty hard to use, which is why BMW put in the investment.

On top of that, Suzuki has made incremental changes that allow teams "in the know" to make their bikes work in the track environment, with simple and effective setup strategies. Simply put, they are still probably the best and least expensive track bike to own. And they work on the brakes, which is BMW's Achilles' heel.

But all that said, carry on with stroking egos, etc.
 
You know, murf....... once you put the 'zuki in track trim, the BMW hasn't been troubling it much. That BMW motor needs a pro to make the best use of it - it's peaky and the midrange is more like a 750 with a giant kick. Without traction control, that motor would be pretty hard to use, which is why BMW put in the investment.

On top of that, Suzuki has made incremental changes that allow teams "in the know" to make their bikes work in the track environment, with simple and effective setup strategies. Simply put, they are still probably the best and least expensive track bike to own. And they work on the brakes, which is BMW's Achilles' heel.

But all that said, carry on with stroking egos, etc.

Please take your well thought out concepts and knowledge out that way ---------------------------------------->

I'm here to read walls of infinite texts and enjoy the masturbatory approach to brand love (pretty sure this may evolve into a 'My father can beat up your father' pissing contest next).





P.S. My dad can kick the **** outta your dad - man is pure crazy. He'll cut you.
 
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lol I find it funny. Debate? what debate, man? A debate is for something that is not clear, or well-understood.Numbers don't lie, in this case all numbers point to one clear and dominate winner: the S1000RR
 
Suzuki....blah lol. I drove one of their cars once and then I didn't even want to look at their bikes. Seriously, saying you own a jap bike is like saying your car has 4 wheels.
 
Have I mentioned how much I love my heavy, slow Tuono that ate a (brand new Q2) rear tire at Deal's Gap in a week? Only 140 crank horsepower and almost 470lbs wet... what a disgrace. I don't know how I live with the shame of not having taken my 180hp rocket on wheels...

...except that it was more fun, since the Tuono can actually make the most of its power and is a better street bike. And I'd rather ride it all day than my stupidbike, which is why I'm working on my 2013 buy/sell plan to rid my street riding of supersports (and add a dual-sport!)

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Enough... I know this isn't the best GTAM can do. Flame on!
 
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Panigale = sexiest bike ever built... And the traction control and Ohlins electronic suspension? Ohhhhhh

BMW = used up toilet paper after beer and burritos

Peak horsepower :lol:
 
Every documented test has the BMW ahead of the GSXR......I will believe that over some random guys stories about beating them over 280 on the street. The Demographic of BMW and Ducati owners is significantly older and wealthier over GSXR owners......meaning they have much more to lose street racing. Again, common sense.
Go to a Mosport track day.........1 mile straight away, let us know how it works out.
I'm 45 and to my experience, most hard edged sportbike riders aren't usually my age. There's some Ducatista posers my age but I've yet to meet a mid 40's Ducati owner doing wheelies up to 260 km/h just for kicks (btw, I won the wheelie contest at the GTA day at Cayuga in 2010, so no kidding, but not at 260 in the quarter mile). Generally, the demographic likely to be found with mid 40's GSXR owners are long time, die hard, skilled, half-the-time-ex-licensed-roadracers who don't like Starbucks coffee. haha! Don't assume that just because I ride a lowly GSXR1000 that I'm a wet behind the ears kid. Say that I have a 'common bike', but why do you think that Japanese bikes are so common? It's because they posess qualities that Ducati's and BMW S1000r's don't, which is high performance with durability and being part of a network that suports it's products, 2 things that BMW and Ducati still haven't figured out how to do, at any cost. Besides that fact, the demographic of being older and having more to lose relates to someone who backs out of the throttle and wouldn't be as apt to "use" the bike anyways, not that this is what this thread was about in the first place! hahaha! It was about performance and why these bikes don't tow old scows like mine? hahahaha! Maybe the older, more affluent and wealthy Ducatista should pose on some Vespas instead? hahaha! 1 mile of a back straight at Mosport would give me more than enough opportunity to make a Ducati look bad but, you should have been with me travelling through Manning park just outside of Hope, BC where there's no sidestreets, driveways, traffic or any obstructions for many miles at a time and you can really see what your Ducati can't do. hahahahaha! I speak from experience about a topic at hand, you shouldn't try to make it personal by making comments about the supposedly younger guy on the japanese bike with a lot less to lose who has less good judgement than the Ducati owner who's trying to stay beside him at a stupidly high speed. The youngest guys in the group aren't always the quickest, trust me! If you want to continue this discussion then focus on the bikes, like I was. If you want to bring up reasons why older, richer Ducati owners have more to live for and tend to back out of the throttle sooner then we can talk about that too! hahahaha! I am still waiting for a Ducati owner with 70 000 kms to name that Timmy's! hahahaha!
 
These posts are getting waaaaayy to long for my liking! :)
 
I'm 45 and to my experience, most hard edged sportbike riders aren't usually my age. There's some Ducatista posers my age but I've yet to meet a mid 40's Ducati owner doing wheelies up to 260 km/h just for kicks (btw, I won the wheelie contest at the GTA day at Cayuga in 2010, so no kidding, but not at 260 in the quarter mile). Generally, the demographic likely to be found with mid 40's GSXR owners are long time, die hard, skilled, half-the-time-ex-licensed-roadracers who don't like Starbucks coffee. haha! Don't assume that just because I ride a lowly GSXR1000 that I'm a wet behind the ears kid. Say that I have a 'common bike', but why do you think that Japanese bikes are so common? It's because they posess qualities that Ducati's and BMW S1000r's don't, which is high performance with durability and being part of a network that suports it's products, 2 things that BMW and Ducati still haven't figured out how to do, at any cost. Besides that fact, the demographic of being older and having more to lose relates to someone who backs out of the throttle and wouldn't be as apt to "use" the bike anyways, not that this is what this thread was about in the first place! hahaha! It was about performance and why these bikes don't tow old scows like mine? hahahaha! Maybe the older, more affluent and wealthy Ducatista should pose on some Vespas instead? hahaha! 1 mile of a back straight at Mosport would give me more than enough opportunity to make a Ducati look bad but, you should have been with me travelling through Manning park just outside of Hope, BC where there's no sidestreets, driveways, traffic or any obstructions for many miles at a time and you can really see what your Ducati can't do. hahahahaha! I speak from experience about a topic at hand, you shouldn't try to make it personal by making comments about the supposedly younger guy on the japanese bike with a lot less to lose who has less good judgement than the Ducati owner who's trying to stay beside him at a stupidly high speed. The youngest guys in the group aren't always the quickest, trust me! If you want to continue this discussion then focus on the bikes, like I was. If you want to bring up reasons why older, richer Ducati owners have more to live for and tend to back out of the throttle sooner then we can talk about that too! hahahaha! I am still waiting for a Ducati owner with 70 000 kms to name that Timmy's! hahahaha!

GIXXERS are awesome I pass Ducatis on mine all the time too! Hahahahaha! I also do wheelies all the time and Ducatis can't wheelie! Hahahahah! If I could afford a shiny new 1199 I'd totally get one but that wont happen so I'll keep riding Suzukis! Hahahahaha!
 
I'm 45 and to my experience, most hard edged sportbike riders aren't usually my age. There's some Ducatista posers my age but I've yet to meet a mid 40's Ducati owner doing wheelies up to 260 km/h just for kicks (btw, I won the wheelie contest at the GTA day at Cayuga in 2010, so no kidding, but not at 260 in the quarter mile). Generally, the demographic likely to be found with mid 40's GSXR owners are long time, die hard, skilled, half-the-time-ex-licensed-roadracers who don't like Starbucks coffee. haha! Don't assume that just because I ride a lowly GSXR1000 that I'm a wet behind the ears kid. Say that I have a 'common bike', but why do you think that Japanese bikes are so common? It's because they posess qualities that Ducati's and BMW S1000r's don't, which is high performance with durability and being part of a network that suports it's products, 2 things that BMW and Ducati still haven't figured out how to do, at any cost. Besides that fact, the demographic of being older and having more to lose relates to someone who backs out of the throttle and wouldn't be as apt to "use" the bike anyways, not that this is what this thread was about in the first place! hahaha! It was about performance and why these bikes don't tow old scows like mine? hahahaha! Maybe the older, more affluent and wealthy Ducatista should pose on some Vespas instead? hahaha! 1 mile of a back straight at Mosport would give me more than enough opportunity to make a Ducati look bad but, you should have been with me travelling through Manning park just outside of Hope, BC where there's no sidestreets, driveways, traffic or any obstructions for many miles at a time and you can really see what your Ducati can't do. hahahahaha! I speak from experience about a topic at hand, you shouldn't try to make it personal by making comments about the supposedly younger guy on the japanese bike with a lot less to lose who has less good judgement than the Ducati owner who's trying to stay beside him at a stupidly high speed. The youngest guys in the group aren't always the quickest, trust me! If you want to continue this discussion then focus on the bikes, like I was. If you want to bring up reasons why older, richer Ducati owners have more to live for and tend to back out of the throttle sooner then we can talk about that too! hahahaha! I am still waiting for a Ducati owner with 70 000 kms to name that Timmy's! hahahaha!

Funny, I'm younger then you and know that there are too many variables to judge which bike is faster in a blast down the street. Do yourself a favour and go somewhere the other riders are at a similar skill level and mindset.
I bought a new 2007 GSXR1000 a few years back. Fun bike, prefered it over a 2007 CBR1000 I had. But I'm not brand/bike loyal like yourself and have had several bikes since. I know many people think their bike is the best, I'm past that now.
 
No not that one. He is talking about the latest one where the Panigale was there. I'll assume the Chav read the actual hard copy. It also says the Pirelli test rider was faster on the Pan than Hodge was on the BMW.
MCN is biased (gets sponsorship/advertising money from BMW) and contradictory and as Shaman said there are other shootouts with different results.

In the end the s1000rr is still hideous and plagued with issues and recalls.

Buy what you like boys and girls. None of y'all will ever ride them to their limits anyway.

If one ever doubts how biased UK mags are check out where they place triumph bikes in any top-bike-of-all-time ratings. 675 always gets 3rd, speed triple in the top 5, and Sprint in the top 10!
 
If one ever doubts how biased UK mags are check out where they place triumph bikes in any top-bike-of-all-time ratings. 675 always gets 3rd, speed triple in the top 5, and Sprint in the top 10!

...and rightly so :D
 
Funny, I'm younger then you and know that there are too many variables to judge which bike is faster in a blast down the street. Do yourself a favour and go somewhere the other riders are at a similar skill level and mindset.
I bought a new 2007 GSXR1000 a few years back. Fun bike, prefered it over a 2007 CBR1000 I had. But I'm not brand/bike loyal like yourself and have had several bikes since. I know many people think their bike is the best, I'm past that now.
In post #42 I said " I realize that my bike is not the greatest bike in the world, so don’t take what I am about to say out of context." but you did anyways.
It isn't about how great my bike is, they make newer GSXRs, likely faster Kawi's too.....whatever. The point that I am making is that BMW and Ducati constantly make claims about how they have the highest HP bikes etc. and they don't exactly tow my old scow. Their entire product support efforts are seriously lacking when it comes to their dealer network (outside Toronto) and their ability to supply parts within an entire riding season. You can try to make this personal by saying that I think I have the best bike in the world, which I am not but that just proves that you're not paying attention to the original poster making fun of Ducati's BS claims happening once again. I really don't care what you think of my cruise missile testing in the middle of nowhere with like minded lunatics, it affects no-one other than ourselves - let natural selection sort it out then. I've got more reason than most to not have any brand loyalty to Suzuki, so it's obvious you don't know me or my history. If you did, you'd know I ride the bags off my bikes and I want something that goes like hell and does everything well and is durable...........and I can get support for. I'm not past that.
 
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