The 1198 has extremely short gearing for a big bike actually.
Can you please explain the disconnect again?
LMAO@ Ducati 1199's dyno number
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The 1198 has extremely short gearing for a big bike actually.
Can you please explain the disconnect again?
To drive the point home.
nesobriquet
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I wasn't referring to the ratios between the cogs. I thought that was obvious with the context of my post.
The "claimed" 195 HP was from a pre production bench test. Whatever the actual WHP numbers are, they will always vary depending on what dyno, what altitude and what temp. Hell, humidity will effect it. There is another dyno run that said it made 180 whp so what are you going to believe, of for that matter why would you give a ****? Throw the Termi exhaust kit on and tune it enough any you will probably make 195 at the wheel 
Here is the original dyno chart, again, pre production bike.
OP do you own an RR? Do people ask you why it looks like a flatfish?
Do you get tired of people asking you when it will win a WSBK round?
I mean, it has so much HP. Shouldn't it be real world fast?
Here is the original dyno chart, again, pre production bike.
OP do you own an RR? Do people ask you why it looks like a flatfish?
Do you get tired of people asking you when it will win a WSBK round?
I mean, it has so much HP. Shouldn't it be real world fast?
invictus43
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awyala
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http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/N...2-ducati-1199-panigale-vs-rivals-at-a-glance/
Care to share the link where MCN posted their shootout review? I know they usually publish on Thursdays, so I am assuming you have a copy of last Thursdays UK issued paper right? Or access to it? As far as the web site is concerned they haven't revealed the results yet.
Shoot outs should be hitting the magazine racks within 3 to 4 weeks, when the magazines can get their hands on a few demo models. At the moment, the reviews from the odd private outing are streaming through as well as the generic Canadian-mag style of regurgitating everything everyone else has said from the Abu Dhabi launch.
All reviews have been positive...oh and take a look at the out-of-the-box spanking the S1000R and the ZX10R got this past Sunday in the Superstock league, the Panigale taking its first win in just its 3rd race, finishing 3rd in the first 2 races (of its existence!!!!)
There is at least 3 years of BMW development and tuning getting spanked by an out-of-the-box Panigale with mediocre riders on it.
awyala
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For years I rode a Ninja and watched it get mangled in every race in WSBK and MotoGP. They placed well in the odd fluke wet weather race but generally street bikes have little relation to race performance. But yes I used to get real tired of Ninjas running in the back of the pack. Even when the gen 3 ZX10R and Vermulen were supposed to lead their WSBK charge, it fizzled shamefully.
It took Kawi nearly 10 years of talking game, to get a consistent podium bike now....yet it is ugly as hell and nowhere to be seen on the streets!
Other gorgeous street bikes have next to zero track presence: KTM RC8, MV Agusta.
The Beamer...hmmm...questionable looks and questionable race track performance. But it looks great on the dyno!
The Panigale however has stunning yet elegant looks, immediate proven track results (World Superstock, next year to be in WSBK), and a wack load of Timmy's and street cred! Hehehe
Don't forget, the Beamer struggled with a soft, inefficient tire shredding chassis for nearly 2 years in WSBK, keeping it as a mid pack bike at best! The Beamer has always had an over developed engine which the frame couldn't properly tame. Upon launch, BMW admitted the engine has much more potential but that they would save that for future development of the model. They have had about 3 years of tweaking the chassis and components to get the power to the ground without killing tires and not just setting a 1 off quick lap.
That being said, even the best club racer in our region wont be putting more than 8 laps down and probably can't push the bike hard enough to find faults in the chassis. And no street rider will ever top out the HP on the road! It's all about bragging rights, a pissing contest, admit it.
However I do find it amazing that anyone gets that heavy BMW around the track faster than an Aprilia. I have a feeling it is due to a superior TC system, which knocks 2 seconds off any amateur's lap times easily.
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redridernl
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Awyala, it's been stated in most reviews that the rsv4 isn't as user friendly and therefore will require more work and/or a better rider to reach it's full potential.
Bottom line... yes, the rwhp numbers are a lot lower than the number they released for crank horsepower. Is anyone really surprised? When I first read it, I lol'd. At the end of the day it's a litre bike, it's faster than you, me and 90% of the people who will ride it.
However, it's no Honda.
Bottom line... yes, the rwhp numbers are a lot lower than the number they released for crank horsepower. Is anyone really surprised? When I first read it, I lol'd. At the end of the day it's a litre bike, it's faster than you, me and 90% of the people who will ride it.
However, it's no Honda.
Actually most places are logging around 177hp at the rear wheel and 184hp with the Termi full system if numbers are that important to you. No one listens to one source except obviously you.
LMAO@ the latest RR recall.
Um, we're not sure if the connector rods will actually keep connecting so we are going to recall all the 2012's with Vin numbers ZL16475 and below. Aprox. 1,414 bikes might be ****ed and suffer a catastophic failure so um, yea, stop riding them (again).
To make up for it we are sending you a poster of our super secret 2013 redesign, or maybe it's a picture a child drew of a flatfish. Hard to tell.
Yea, great bike.
Um, we're not sure if the connector rods will actually keep connecting so we are going to recall all the 2012's with Vin numbers ZL16475 and below. Aprox. 1,414 bikes might be ****ed and suffer a catastophic failure so um, yea, stop riding them (again).
To make up for it we are sending you a poster of our super secret 2013 redesign, or maybe it's a picture a child drew of a flatfish. Hard to tell.
Yea, great bike.
LOL that was my first thought too.
My thoughts exactly hooligan!
Hey folks,
I'm a new guy on the forum, but I've been riding for a lot of years. I've been reading this thread and wondering...why does it matter? Don't get me wrong; it's cool to have bragging rights, but at the end of the day...that and a couple of bucks gets you a coffee.
Truth be known, there are a very few riders out there, myself included, who can ride even a middleweight bike to it's full potential and it's definitely not gonna happen on the street!
There are a lot of great bikes out there from every one of the manufacturers. People buy and ride what makes them happy and at the end of the ride; isn't that what it's all about?
Relax on the numbers game and enjoy the ride!
I'm a new guy on the forum, but I've been riding for a lot of years. I've been reading this thread and wondering...why does it matter? Don't get me wrong; it's cool to have bragging rights, but at the end of the day...that and a couple of bucks gets you a coffee.
Truth be known, there are a very few riders out there, myself included, who can ride even a middleweight bike to it's full potential and it's definitely not gonna happen on the street!
There are a lot of great bikes out there from every one of the manufacturers. People buy and ride what makes them happy and at the end of the ride; isn't that what it's all about?
Relax on the numbers game and enjoy the ride!
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