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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
- Thread starter Paul
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Sorry, after more than 50 years in Brampton hearing "21 Division" has a pretty specific connotation for me. As a kid my friends and I would collect stolen bikes, from the various creeks, and drop them off to the cops at 21.
Mad Mike
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I think your point is lost in the way we look at crime and punishment.
The premise of 3-strikes in the US, if you’re not easily rehabilitated, or not willing, then the law protects society from you by locking you up.
Mad Mike
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While I agree that seasoned cops can stitch events together on a lot of the dirtbags they arrest, occasionally they get it wrong
25 years ago my neighbours schizophrenic wife attempted suicide. The husband and I found and saved her. She freaked and called 911.
The cops found he bloodied and bruised from the belt she strapped around her neck. They took my neighbour for an elevator ride and beat him senseless, then let him go. They took the gal to hospital.
I’m sure 99% of the times a gal calls in, she’s been abused. But what happens to the 1% who are lying if police get to mete out justice?
Dirty Frank
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The effectiveness of the 3 strike rule is a interesting subject to look into.
I completely support it for dirty politicians and public officials not for common folk tho.
We are too governed by the three strike mentality. If someone runs a red light and rams the side of you, you don't get up, brush yourself off, right your bike and do a replay. Same with falling of a ladder, touching the wrong wire, walking on thin ice. Life isn't baseball.
Why is crime and punishment different?
Is your victim less dead or less traumatized if it's your first offence?
Every time you let someone get away with something "For the last time" they get one more opportunity to do it again.
That said, I'm not for the American brutality system.
Not often. Homolka didn't get it but Bernardo did.
And Magnotta. Yet they're both in minimum security now. Go figure. Probably be out on bail while under appeal if it weren't for the dangerous offender designation.
The parole board can still find that they have been "reformed" and consider them for release.
Bernardo is the most infamous.. but there's close to a thousand others.
Magnotta wasn't designated a dangerous offender.
Mikedezo44
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Good old social media/cellphone footage strikes again. Working 11 hour shifts should give them a pass to do whatever they please, right?
www.cp24.com
Toronto police investigating after video appears to show officer giving citizen the middle finger
Toronto police say an internal investigation is underway after a video circulating on social media appeared to show an officer giving a citizen the middle finger over an argument about alleged illegal parking last week.
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Gaoler
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People wouldn't believe how Homolka was treated while in custody at the TWDC.
I suppose being the linch pin in the the crown's case buys you some favour.
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To add a little levity.
We've had this incident before in this thread. TPS inspector who bailed out her possible DUI nephew at a crash site has been found guilty of misconduct. Union respects the process but is whining about how the discipline process is so heavily weighted against their members. Umm, when was the last time a dirtbag cop was fired? She interfered with a police investigation to protect a family member from criminal charges. The only suitable outcome for the public is immediate dismissal with cause. I give that a zero percent chance of happening. I suspect a one-level demotion for a few months and continue on with career as normal.
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Senior Toronto police officer who allowed nephew to leave collision found guilty of misconduct
A senior Toronto police officer has been found guilty of two professional misconduct charges after allowing her nephew to leave the scene of a single-vehicle crash in 2022.
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TPS, Douggie and others are all banding behind the cop. Respect the officers, she was baited and harassed etc. How about, "Nobody is above the law. The cops in this case will be disciplined and we have issued a directive that when not on official duties, police officers and vehicles can only park in legal parking spots as is the law for every other driver in the city. Failure to comply will result in officers receiving the same ticket as any other driver as well as a misconduct hearing."
Video shows Toronto police officer giving citizen the finger
TPS is investigating an officer's conduct after she was captured on video giving a citizen the middle finger during a parking spat.
toronto.citynews.ca
Citizens tend to show a lot more respect when officers don't give "Do as I say, not as I do" energy. Also, they are not supposed to react to such provocation.TPS, Douggie and others are all banding behind the cop. Respect the officers, she was baited and harassed etc. How about, "Nobody is above the law. The cops in this case will be disciplined and we have issued a directive that when not on official duties, police officers and vehicles can only park in legal parking spots as is the law for every other driver in the city. Failure to comply will result in officers receiving the same ticket as any other driver as well as a misconduct hearing."
Video shows Toronto police officer giving citizen the finger
TPS is investigating an officer's conduct after she was captured on video giving a citizen the middle finger during a parking spat.
I think the cop was given the appropriate amount of respect in this case. The citizen reflected the disdain they were presented with. Cop needs de-escalation, confrontation and mental health training as well as a refresher in the law and who it applies to.
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