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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%

  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%
  • Total voters
    111
Rob MacLennan said:
If they really wanted to deal with driver distraction then they'd force ad companies to tear down all the animated billboards along The Gardiner.
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It’s illegal to have a TV on your dash but OK if it’s mounted on posts outside the car. New installs are banned and when that was announced the application rate soared to beat the deadline.

Anyone remember the phantom of the freeways?

A blonde in what looked like a white choir robe stood on bridges overlooking the QEW and in a dazed stupor waved eerily at the drivers.

It spooked the crap out of them and resulted in massive traffic jams.
 
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DownUnder said:
So he was working as enforcer for a friend/acquaintance.. he should have been fired immediately.
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He can't be with current psa. Psa needs to be amended to allow their charges to be adjudicated before criminal trial is complete. The bar for termination shpuld be far below a criminal conviction.
 
GreyGhost said:
Frigging suspended with pay. That needs to be solved. If douggie fixes that, he has my vote.
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While I agree something has to be done I consider the unintended consequences. If enough false charges were laid the police force could be decimated.

Would paying the police through the union have an effect. The city pays the union XX dollars per hour for an officer's time on duty. If an officer is suspended under a charge it's up to the union to get the case resolved and either cut him from the team or exonerate him. Any butt dragging costs comes out of union funds, not the city's.

When covering up for a fellow officer comes out of other police pockets there will be an incentive to promptly investigate and resolve.

Punishment for false charges would be brutal, North Korea brutal.
 
nobbie48 said:
While I agree something has to be done I consider the unintended consequences. If enough false charges were laid the police force could be decimated.

Would paying the police through the union have an effect. The city pays the union XX dollars per hour for an officer's time on duty. If an officer is suspended under a charge it's up to the union to get the case resolved and either cut him from the team or exonerate him. Any butt dragging costs comes out of union funds, not the city's.

When covering up for a fellow officer comes out of other police pockets there will be an incentive to promptly investigate and resolve.

Punishment for false charges would be brutal, North Korea brutal.
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I am not saying automatic dismissal. Allow psa adjudication asap. If they have sufficient evidence to convict under psa, do it now.
 
GreyGhost said:
I am not saying automatic dismissal. Allow psa adjudication asap. If they have sufficient evidence to convict under psa, do it now.
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As long as the money comes out of someone else's pocket progress will drag.

If the union is saddled with paying non working officers they will hasten a resolution. If the cop is dirty they'll cut him lose. If they ax too many the rank and file will revolt against the leadership.
 
So the Hamilton cop that pointed hi firearm at his supervisor and pulled tbe trigger ( not loaded) has the union arguing he needs to be desk assigned , not fired. Same cop was previously videoed sitting in his cruiser spinning his gun like John Wayne . But he’s ok.

Hamilton police has 17% of the force on leave , ptsd, whatever and the rest are making mucho overtime and the chief is claiming an evidence based budget. Salary is most of the budget.


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crankcall said:
Hamilton police has 17% of the force on leave , ptsd, whatever and the rest are making mucho overtime and the chief is claiming an evidence based budget. Salary is most of the budget.
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So it's improved over the old look-the-other-way-while-officers-sell-drugs-out-of-the-back-door-of-their-business model from years back.
 
crankcall said:
So the Hamilton cop that pointed hi firearm at his supervisor and pulled tbe trigger ( not loaded) has the union arguing he needs to be desk assigned , not fired. Same cop was previously videoed sitting in his cruiser spinning his gun like John Wayne . But he’s ok.

Hamilton police has 17% of the force on leave , ptsd, whatever and the rest are making mucho overtime and the chief is claiming an evidence based budget. Salary is most of the budget.


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Some Toronto emergency services have similar leave numbers and the stress numbers are not related to the calls but rather from working with idiots.
 
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$3.2 million in stolen vehicles recovered across GTA and Ontario

Investigators with York police's Auto Cargo Theft Unit have recovered 52 stolen vehicles from parts of the GTA and southwestern Ontario.
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Zain Afzal, 20
Arpan Dutta, 20
Andrey Pokrovskiy, 57
Mohammad Hadi, 35
Darren Proulx, 56
Sanan Abbasov, 64
Ibrahim Tairou, 32
Kamal El Hadji Dani, 46
Shaibu Kooli, 34
Sadkoul Derman, 54
Mina Pebenito, 31

What a nuisance. At what point does one have to start considering harsher penalties for these sort of crimes.
 
POWERMAN said:
What a nuisance. At what point does one have to start considering harsher penalties for these sort of crimes.
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In the past was best, today is second best, tomorrow is third best. Government will probably choose never.

While the ports are obviously busy, the inspection rate is appalling low (less than 4% coming in, I suspect far far lower going out). As a start, implement a routine inspection program for outgoing containers. Find contraband and everybody associated with that container gets blacklisted and ineligible to sign future export documents. Hell, start holding ships accountable for dodgy containers (even if it's a marginal fine) so they start being selective with who they deal with as they don't want the hit.
 
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Now Forcillo is arguing that if he had a taser everything would have been different but only supervisors had them at the time. What a load of tripe. Wasn't one of his compatriots tasing Sammy at the same time? Now, issuing every mouth breather a gun but reserving tasers for those that have been around longer does seem like an epic policy fail.

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Forcillo tells coroner's inquest having a stun gun would have 'changed everything'

A former Toronto police officer who shot a teen on an empty streetcar told a coroner’s inquest today that having a stun gun would have “changed everything.” James Forcillo is testifying at the inquest into the death of 18-year-old Sammy Yatim, who he shot during a confrontation in July 2013...
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GreyGhost said:
Now Forcillo is arguing that if he had a taser everything would have been different but only supervisors had them at the time.
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GreyGhost said:
Now Forcillo is arguing that if he had a taser everything would have been different but only supervisors had them at the time. What a load of tripe. Wasn't one of his compatriots tasing Sammy at the same time? Now, issuing every mouth breather a gun but reserving tasers for those that have been around longer does seem like an epic policy fail.

toronto.citynews.ca

Forcillo tells coroner's inquest having a stun gun would have 'changed everything'

A former Toronto police officer who shot a teen on an empty streetcar told a coroner’s inquest today that having a stun gun would have “changed everything.” James Forcillo is testifying at the inquest into the death of 18-year-old Sammy Yatim, who he shot during a confrontation in July 2013...
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From what I remember he was tased right AFTER being shot 8 times (9th missed). So really it is an order of operation problem not an available tools problem in this case. The cop with the taser was obviously on the scene and the option was available.

We watched Mystery Men again last night, there is a line "The police said he fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets."
 
backmarkerducati said:
From what I remember he was tased right AFTER being shot 8 times (9th missed). So really it is an order of operation problem not an available tools problem in this case. The cop with the taser was obviously on the scene and the option was available.

We watched Mystery Men again last night, there is a line "The police said he fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets."
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Didn't the judge chastise some cops for perjury? I recall some cover up and thought it was about not have a taser when one was actually available.
 
nobbie48 said:
Didn't the judge chastise some cops for perjury? I recall some cover up and thought it was about not have a taser when one was actually available.
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If I remember correctly, and it was a while ago, I think you are correct. Something like....

"I tased him and he did not drop the knife...so "then" he shot him three times and he did not drop the knife, and then six more times but one missed."

Ooops, sorry cops the TTC vehicles have cameras... again from memory so I could be wrong. /s
 
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