Most cops I see on construction duty are watching the big yellow things dig the hole instead of the traffic around it.
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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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Companies are required to pay them. I have never heard of a cop being disciplined for doing FA while they are "working".
Back to the anti Israel protest at Avenue Road 401, I don't have the whole story but if the cop defused the situation by delivering coffee to non violent protesters it beats throwing it in their faces. You've made your point, have your coffee and wander away like caring people, not be beaten off like stray dogs.
The police don't have to show how tough they are by pushing people around.
The "Defund the Police" movement should be "rethink the police"
Police also need protection from verbal intimidation not only for their own sake but to prevent escalation by a big mouth with nothing valid to say. Accuse a cop of being racist and not have proof, get sued for libel.
Bouncer.
It's been downgraded from Minutes to Fractions of Hours.
I'm with Rob MacLennan on this. I'd like to think our policing is better than what they have in the USA (in no way is it perfect) and at least some of that is because ours are paid better and trained better. Which way those are trending, I don't know. Every little town in the USA has a fleet of patrol officers, and I'm pretty sure the local cops are not well paid.
Maybe resources need to be redirected, but that means something has to give. I've changed my opinion on speed cameras and similar in the last couple of years. Yes, they suck (less so if properly implemented and not abused by the authorities), but they free up patrol officers. If that's what we need, it's better.
edit: I should add that in my travels in Europe, I think I've only seen the polizei on obvious traffic enforcement a couple of times, and only in cities. I've seen them out and about, doing other things, but not on obvious radar duty. That is left to speed cameras, and red-light cameras, and bus-lane cameras ... of which they have plenty.
Maybe resources need to be redirected, but that means something has to give. I've changed my opinion on speed cameras and similar in the last couple of years. Yes, they suck (less so if properly implemented and not abused by the authorities), but they free up patrol officers. If that's what we need, it's better.
edit: I should add that in my travels in Europe, I think I've only seen the polizei on obvious traffic enforcement a couple of times, and only in cities. I've seen them out and about, doing other things, but not on obvious radar duty. That is left to speed cameras, and red-light cameras, and bus-lane cameras ... of which they have plenty.
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And you've seen them patrolling? I sure as hell haven't.
Still see the occasional speed trap ...
That is the interesting question. Speed cameras are without a doubt generating a ton of revenue. Is the Parkside drive fundraising camera doing anything useful other than fundraising? Month after month, it makes a fortune. Does that increase safety or indicate that the speed limit on that stretch is grossly wrong for the street design and the city should be required to redesign the street or increase the speed limit?
Have any cops been pulled off hta and onto criminal issues?
The more sane groups who call for defunding the police aren't calling for their elimination, but rather a reduction in funding to shift that funding to support mental health professionals and neighbourhood youth programmes, to head off crime before it happens, and deal with people with mental health issues in less violent ways. Using the term "defund" gives people, who want you to think it's about the complete elimination of police, ammunition.
Might as well say Quickie Mart employee but it tends to be the exception, rather than the rule. Retail employees are universally treated like crap but being faced with the potential for actual violence isn't a daily, or even hourly issue.
Mad Mike
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I think you do a few things.
1. Stratify policing into traffic/community policing and law enforcement. Traffic cops do the pay duty, funeral escorts etc, paid fairly, say $60k. Law enforcement cops do the tougher stuff, have a higher bar for entry and training, paid as they are today.
2. Eliminate paid leave for cops accused of criminal acts. Make it easier for chiefs to fire underperformers and troublemakers.
3. Make catch and release a one time courtesy.
DownUnder
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Back home police forces are run by the state not the city/region. Everyone goes through the same selection process and boot camps, then depending where they are posted can end up doing general law and order, forensics, traffic, major crime, anti-terrorism, water police, search and rescue etc. This eliminates jurisdiction and communication issues.
The Trucker convoy would have been the premiers and his minister for police responsibility not the mayor, city cop and prime Minister.
The Trucker convoy would have been the premiers and his minister for police responsibility not the mayor, city cop and prime Minister.
Given that police are often accused of criminal acts as a method of retaliation, I think that #2 is a non starter. If we concentrate efforts on dealing with such issues with all due speed, as promised in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, then much of the lag would disappear. I believe that disciplinary boards are currently capable of coming to decisions prior to a finding in court, however, they do so because it removes doubt and recourse. Our court system needs some serious cash injections. Maybe we also need to look at stopping frivolous delays of trial, in order to run out the clock on retirement, etc.? That police have been able to claim Charter 11b, when their own lawyers have been dragging out the trials, is a miscarriage of justice.
Dirty Frank
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Thought this would fit here, a little long but quite interesting IMHO.
I'm not sure of the details but there is a specific trailer in a trailer park in Angus that police are very interested in. Searched in January and again this weekend. During this weekends activities, cops lost one of the rifles out of their cars. Wtf. Police may put more firearms on the street than private owners. This happens quite often.
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OPP investigating rifle stolen from police vehicle in Angus
OPP is investigating the theft of a police-issued rifle from a police vehicle on Saturday.
If you check out The Lockpicking Lawyer's Youtube channel, some time, you'll see how ridiculously easy many of those gun locks in police cars are to defeat. One, that American police use to secure AR-15 style rifles, can be defeated just by removing the magazine.I'm not sure of the details but there is a specific trailer in a trailer park in Angus that police are very interested in. Searched in January and again this weekend. During this weekends activities, cops lost one of the rifles out of their cars. Wtf. Police may put more firearms on the street than private owners. This happens quite often.
OPP investigating rifle stolen from police vehicle in Angus
OPP is investigating the theft of a police-issued rifle from a police vehicle on Saturday.
At least they didn't get away with the patrol car.I'm not sure of the details but there is a specific trailer in a trailer park in Angus that police are very interested in. Searched in January and again this weekend. During this weekends activities, cops lost one of the rifles out of their cars. Wtf. Police may put more firearms on the street than private owners. This happens quite often.
OPP investigating rifle stolen from police vehicle in Angus
OPP is investigating the theft of a police-issued rifle from a police vehicle on Saturday.
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