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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%

  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%
  • Total voters
    111
Two off-duty cops beat up a teenager which resulted in his death. They did not document the interaction nor notify anybody. Investigation into the dead kid found the connection to the cops. They are before police tribunal for discipline now. WTF. You or I would have been in real court fighting for our lives. Disgusting.

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I'm not saying they deserve to be convicted but holy fack. This needs a whole lot of light shone on it (probably through a criminal trial) and they should be immediately terminated for inability to make good decisions. The kid died a year ago.
 
GreyGhost said:
Two off-duty cops beat up a teenager which resulted in his death. They did not document the interaction nor notify anybody. Investigation into the dead kid found the connection to the cops. They are before police tribunal for discipline now. WTF. You or I would have been in real court fighting for our lives. Disgusting.

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Toronto, Canada and Global Breaking News – CP24

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EDIT:
I'm not saying they deserve to be convicted but holy fack. This needs a whole lot of light shone on it (probably through a criminal trial) and they should be immediately terminated for inability to make good decisions. The kid died a year ago.
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There may well be charges that stem from this. If there was brain injury as a result, for example, then they could be facing far more than merely misconduct and failure of duty to report charges.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
There may well be charges that stem from this. If there was brain injury as a result, for example, then they could be facing far more than merely misconduct and failure of duty to report charges.
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If charges haven't been laid a year in, I don't have high hopes. Tribunal charges were laid a month ago. Normal process is tribunal trial happens after criminal trial. Imo, they were trying to get this dealt with under PSA and pretend it never happened to avoid more bad press. By the time it eventually got to trial, there is a reasonable defence using 11b. It will be hard for the prosecution to argue that pulling a phone number out of a victims phone and seeing who it belongs too reasonably takes more than a year and therefore that delay was justified.
 
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GreyGhost said:
If charges haven't been laid a year in, I don't have high hopes. Tribunal charges were laid a month ago. Normal process is tribunal trial happens after criminal trial. They were trying to get this dealt with under PSA and pretend it never happened to avoid more bad press. By the time it eventually got to trial, there is a reasonable defence using 11b. It will be hard for the prosecution to argue that pulling a phone number out of a victims phone and seeing who it belongs too reasonably takes more than a year and therefore that delay was justified.
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Concealing the crime won't count toward 11b. It sounds like they were getting all their ducks in a row on the evidence before going forward, which meant figuring out all parties involved. With this now having come out it will be up to The Crown as to whether or not criminal charges are laid.
 
This is first the time I heard of this.
Two off duty police officer beat to death a teenage boy over a fake watch?
Their police buddies trying to cover up the murder?
 
justride said:
This is first the time I heard of this.
Two off duty police officer beat to death a teenage boy over a fake watch?
Their police buddies trying to cover up the murder?
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Sounds more like manslaughter than murder but your summary seems to fit with what we know.
 
raginduck said:
I've been watching this one since it happened.

What was the COD?
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Not publicly released. It seems plausible that the kid banged his head. The cops running away when a witness showed up while they were assaulting the kid is a nice touch.

"It remains unclear what actually caused Facey’s death

At that point a foot pursuit began that ultimately culminated with Au allegedly tackling the teen to the ground, according to the documents.

“You were engaged in a struggle with the male on the ground. You continued to try to maintain physical control of the male as the male continued to try to get up off the ground. A second male approached the area and you and PC Benning ran to the car and drove away,” the documents state.

They have previously said that his friends picked him up sometime following the incident and noticed he appeared unwell. They then took him to hospital, where he later died."
 
GreyGhost said:
Who did he piss off? "I smelled weed" is a standard law enforcement tactic used in the entire western world with impunity.

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YRP officer facing criminal charges for allegedly fabricating evidence during traffic stop

York Regional Police say an officer is facing criminal charges after allegedly searching a vehicle for drugs during a traffic stop on the basis of a false claim.
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I like the last sentence in the news article "A separate police disciplinary process will follow after the criminal charges have been dealt with, police said."

That's police talk for a 3 year paid vacation.
 
Mad Mike said:
I like the last sentence in the news article "A separate police disciplinary process will follow after the criminal charges have been dealt with, police said."

That's police talk for a 3 year paid vacation.
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With pension accrual. Not a department issue but I still maintain that is a glaring problem in the PSA. How many cases have enough evidence to lay criminal charges but insufficient for a PSA conviction? I suspect 0.0% .
 
GreyGhost said:
With pension accrual. Not a department issue but I still maintain that is a glaring problem in the PSA. How many cases have enough evidence to lay criminal charges but insufficient for a PSA conviction? I suspect 0.0% .
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Once the officer has been found guilty of the criminal charges, the tribunal can pretty much hand wave a disciplinary finding. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" means they don't have to prove anything, themselves, in order to proceed with punishment.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Once the officer has been found guilty of the criminal charges, the tribunal can pretty much hand wave a disciplinary finding. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" means they don't have to prove anything, themselves, in order to proceed with punishment.
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I find it hard to believe that prosecuting psa charges would cost more than the 300k+ they will pay in salary to the dirtbag while waiting to rubber stamp.
 
GreyGhost said:
I find it hard to believe that prosecuting psa charges would cost more than the 300k+ they will pay in salary to the dirtbag while waiting to rubber stamp.
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They should be able to recover the monies or a share of it if dismissed.
 

Should we take bets how big of a cheque our great leader will give this guy who spent 2-3 months in Canada? Great comments on the article as usual. Should be suing the USA but history has showed much better chance of getting juicy pay out from us.
 
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