I don't know how anyone could use that as a talking point and do it with a straight face.
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Donald or Kamala?
- Thread starter Mad Mike
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I don't know how anyone could use that as a talking point and do it with a straight face.
It's over.. It is what it is...
Some on here are too upset, or happy, with it.. considering it was a US election...and we're in Canada.
We made it through his last term... We'll make it through this one. Not sure I'd want to be Ukraine or Gaza.. but we're not.
IMO... Our government needs to fix our borders sooner than later.. or else Canada is going to become overrun with folks that were headed to the US and will get stuck here... or the folks that are going to flee the US. Do nothing and it'll get worse than it is now.
Some on here are too upset, or happy, with it.. considering it was a US election...and we're in Canada.
We made it through his last term... We'll make it through this one. Not sure I'd want to be Ukraine or Gaza.. but we're not.
IMO... Our government needs to fix our borders sooner than later.. or else Canada is going to become overrun with folks that were headed to the US and will get stuck here... or the folks that are going to flee the US. Do nothing and it'll get worse than it is now.
Why not? Explain your reasoning
Bernie blames democrats and he might know a thing or 2 about it and he was even doing it before the election
This mightve been posted but:
Lol they aren't blaming Republicans, they are eating their own now.
I voted for Harris in the survey. I thought it was going to be very close, but she'd squeak in, and I was wrong.
Let's be clear here. Harris was a terrible candidate and only became one because Biden and his enablers hid his decline and he pulled out so late in the election. If Biden had stated his intent to not run for a second term 18 months ago there would have been a proper primary process and I'm certain Harris would not have been the candidate. Harris did very poorly in the 2020 election primary and there's no reason to believe she would have done better in 2024. A better qualified person would have had no linkage to the current administration and could have articulated what they would do differently, vs. feeling they had to defend Biden and their own actions.
Carville famously said, "It's the ecomony stupid" decades ago and Biden, rightly or wrongly, owns sky high inflation, continuing high prices and families who cannpt make ends meet. The reality is that all G7 countries went through a period of very high inflation and continuing high prices and IMO Biden, or Trump had he been president, had little control over this. But no one cares, Biden gets the blame. and the incumbant administration almost always does poorly in an election following these economic conditions. Another strike against the democrats.
Biden and his team performed very poorly re immigration and the southern border issues and completely failed to appreciate and understand how most Amercicans feel about this. It's like they were detacted from reality and failed to see the anger, fear and frustration of people in the border states and the country in general.
So democrates got wiped out in 2024 and the GOP has the presidency, the Senate and probably the House, just like the first 2 years of Trump's first term. Let's see just what Trump does over the next 2 years, before the mid-terms, that usually favor the opposition.
If blame for the loss has to be assigned the democrats own it 100%.
Let's be clear here. Harris was a terrible candidate and only became one because Biden and his enablers hid his decline and he pulled out so late in the election. If Biden had stated his intent to not run for a second term 18 months ago there would have been a proper primary process and I'm certain Harris would not have been the candidate. Harris did very poorly in the 2020 election primary and there's no reason to believe she would have done better in 2024. A better qualified person would have had no linkage to the current administration and could have articulated what they would do differently, vs. feeling they had to defend Biden and their own actions.
Carville famously said, "It's the ecomony stupid" decades ago and Biden, rightly or wrongly, owns sky high inflation, continuing high prices and families who cannpt make ends meet. The reality is that all G7 countries went through a period of very high inflation and continuing high prices and IMO Biden, or Trump had he been president, had little control over this. But no one cares, Biden gets the blame. and the incumbant administration almost always does poorly in an election following these economic conditions. Another strike against the democrats.
Biden and his team performed very poorly re immigration and the southern border issues and completely failed to appreciate and understand how most Amercicans feel about this. It's like they were detacted from reality and failed to see the anger, fear and frustration of people in the border states and the country in general.
So democrates got wiped out in 2024 and the GOP has the presidency, the Senate and probably the House, just like the first 2 years of Trump's first term. Let's see just what Trump does over the next 2 years, before the mid-terms, that usually favor the opposition.
If blame for the loss has to be assigned the democrats own it 100%.
Oh, you mean the one where a bipartisan solution was obtained but voted down by Trump supporters so that they could use the issue in elections?
Globe and Mail Opinion: The U.S. election shows that sometimes the people get it wrong
Paywalled but the gist is “irrational”, which is a great word to use for this result.
“hard to see how the US economy could be doing any better” is in there. Also describes how this is actually on track to be one of the narrowest popular vote results in US history, the dumb electoral college system clouds the way results are seen.
Going back to previous comments, again, it should be remarkably easy to point to failed policy decisions but it demonstrably isn’t is it? Digging into the economy issue just a bit more than skin deep shows the true state of affairs but that requires effort and maybe the ability to parse information and think critically. It’s a lot easier to listen to someone tell you they have a solution to these imagined woes especially if you forget/don’t care that person is an established liar. Then when you go down this road it’s even harder to admit or perhaps understand that you’re a mark for a con man.
Paywalled but the gist is “irrational”, which is a great word to use for this result.
“hard to see how the US economy could be doing any better” is in there. Also describes how this is actually on track to be one of the narrowest popular vote results in US history, the dumb electoral college system clouds the way results are seen.
Going back to previous comments, again, it should be remarkably easy to point to failed policy decisions but it demonstrably isn’t is it? Digging into the economy issue just a bit more than skin deep shows the true state of affairs but that requires effort and maybe the ability to parse information and think critically. It’s a lot easier to listen to someone tell you they have a solution to these imagined woes especially if you forget/don’t care that person is an established liar. Then when you go down this road it’s even harder to admit or perhaps understand that you’re a mark for a con man.
Trump is infamous for not paying bills or shorting (underpaying) contractors that did work for him.
I'm not a Trump supporter and I'm disappointed Harris did not win.
IMO the Electoral College system is flawed, as is the system whereby every state, regardless of population, has 2 senators, it's effectively antidemocratic.
Having House elections every 2 years is a needless churn meaning they're in perpectual campaign mode a month after getting elected.
I also subscribe to the Globe, so have read many articles re the strong U.S economy. In fact, my own investments have increased over the last few days, so thanks Donald. That said, income inequality in the U.S. is huge and the booming economic state is not enjoyed by everyone. The working poor are locked into a life of just scraping by. Many weeks a year spent riding in PA, OH, KY, WV and VA backroads have amply demonstrated that being poor in the U.S. is not the same as being poor in Canada. These are huge rural areas, dying small towns and closed and abandoned factories where progress and jobs have passed them by and peope have no hope. These are the rural people that are core Trump supporters because they feel he understands them and is pulling for them. They're completely deluded, but that's what they think. Trump will do nothing for these people, in fact, his crazy tariff plan will actually make much of the products and supplies that poor people spend most of their limited money on more expensive.
Sad state of affairs IMO, but they voted for it.
Mad Mike
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I think you're trusting the reports of Facebook and TikTok'rs looking for clicks and views.
Voting in the USA is a simple, quick process everywhere. Easier than in Canada.
Handing out water is not prohibited. Many states prohibit handing out anything within 150 feet of a polling place unless it’s done by election officials or polling station volunteers. The reason for this is to prevent partisan influence during the voting process.
In the 2024 US election, approx 115,000 polling stations opened across the country, and about 10% of them were open for at least a week before election day. Every station is compliant with the American Disabilities act. 99% of voters are finished in under 10 minutes. Only two polling stations reported wait times over 80 minutes (Duval County, Florida, and Cumberland County, North Carolina).
All but 7 states have no-questions-asked mail-in voting, and the remaining 7 allow mail-in voting if you can't get to a polling station.
All but Mississippi and Alabama have early voting.
I've lived in TX, CA, and FL during Presidential elections. I was in FL for this election and saw zero lineups.
I have never met an American who complained voting is hard.
I was speaking on matters of Kamala, and that’s the answer you came up with is Trump
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DownUnder
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Nah the open border that they then tried to write a bill with the word border in it but that was actually a Ukrainian aid bill in disguise
OK then. Now we're going to have to dig up citations.
(EDIT: fixed link) Here's one (unfortunately not updated to reflect this past election) https://www.lgbtmap.org/img/maps/citations-polling-place-line-length.pdf
Lineups at a station that was NOT one of the two that you claim were the only ones that reported long lines: https://www.wnct.com/news/national/...-of-millions-have-already-cast-their-ballots/ Quote from article "In Nevada, one of two western presidential battlegrounds, long lines were reported in Reno and Las Vegas. After polls closed, there was still a three-hour wait at a polling location at the University of Nevada, Reno, according to local election officials." I could find more.
About that law prohibiting handing out water to people in line ... https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/29/world/meanwhile-in-america-march-29-intl/index.html And that article also discusses the discrimination issues.
Wasn't Mr Trump discouraging people from using mail-in voting in 2020? Why was he (AFAICT) silent about it this time?
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FTFY. Come back to the table when you have some facts.
Not wrong.
Promises, promises. Personally, I don't think Trump is going to live up to either the deportation of immigrants promise, or the tariffs promise, and that will be a good thing, because both would be disastrous.
What he'll actually do ... is impossible to predict. Best case, he goes golfing.
They were still poor when GW Bush was in power. It depends on who whispers soothing words in their ears and what those words are. If a lying ******* tells them all their woes are due to swarthy skinned types that resonates.
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