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Donald or Kamala?

Donald or Kamala?

  • Donald

    Votes: 18 51.4%
  • Kamala

    Votes: 17 48.6%

  • Total voters
    35
  • Poll closed .
20 pages of mostly nonsense.
Politics is like picking who gets you in the shower in prison.
No matter your choice, you're getting f*cked...
All I’m seeing is the typical liberal ********, things like they’re stupid for voting trump, and let’s not talk about it can we just move on crap. That wasn’t the case for the last 8yrs, why now. Why not talk about.

All I’m seeing is let’s blame trump because the people got sick of the woke liberal crap that’s going around the world. People voted for change
 
Bernie Sanders is correct! Many blaming the voters instead of the out of touch Democratic Party.

All the research pointed to Border Security and affordability as being the most important concerns

But the Dems went all in with "Democracy" which is a given in the US with their 3 branch system and the age old "Trump is Hitler"

Gains were from almost every segment of the population

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Bernie Sanders is correct! Many blaming the voters instead of the out of touch Democratic Party.

All the research pointed to Border Security and affordability as being the most important concerns

But the Dems went all in with "Democracy" which is a given in the US with their 3 branch system and the age old "Trump is Hitler"

Gains were from almost every segment of the population

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Overall he got slightly less votes from white males and more in every other category.

The Koolaid is strong and the amount of widespread denial is actually impressive.
 
Not wrong.

Promises, promises. Personally, I don't think Trump is going to live up to either the deportation of immigrants promise, or the tariffs promise, and that will be a good thing, because both would be disastrous.


What he'll actually do ... is impossible to predict. Best case, he goes golfing.
Every single one of your sources in this thread has been crap like this.

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Could you at least pretend to have something of substance.

This is why it all goes sideways. Echo chambers of garbage.

*edit.... I forgot to include the link to the youtube channel that I snapped and you linked. MeidasTouch
 
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Every single one of your sources in this thread has been crap like this.

Could you at least pretend to have something of substance.

This is why it all goes sideways. Echo chambers of garbage.

*edit.... I forgot to include the link to the youtube channel that I snapped and you linked. MeidasTouch

They state where they get their information from.

Don't like the messenger? How about these, then?

Deficit projections:

The deporting-immigrants issue:

Once again ... I don't think either one of these promises (import tariffs on everything, deportation of all immigrants) will fully happen as promised - but they may try.
 
Also ... In no way am I suggesting that the US immigration system isn't broken ... it is broken, otherwise there wouldn't be this many undocumented immigrants in the country to begin with. Maybe a good portion of them (probably not all - totally understand that) could have immigrated legally if it were possible and practical for them to do so.
 
They state where they get their information from.

Don't like the messenger? How about these, then?

Deficit projections:

The deporting-immigrants issue:

Once again ... I don't think either one of these promises (import tariffs on everything, deportation of all immigrants) will fully happen as promised - but they may try.
So we have the Guardian and a source where I would have to hunt to find out if they are representing the information correctly. Great.

How about you link the actual source you are talking about... not the 5 degrees of separation.

...... just tired.... never mind....
 
The Guardian article links to or identifies the sources that they use.

You will also note that this very same article is critical of things that Obama and Biden have done.
 
I used to dig to the bottom of all the references and sources to show the misrepresentation.

We have astrologists and crazy leftists cited as sources. Then I am told not to 'Kill the messenger'.

I just don't care anymore. It's not worth it.

Enjoy.......

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Know what? At this point, it doesn't matter. What's done is done. What's going to happen, is whatever's going to happen.

The future isn't going to be as rosy as one side promises/expects, and it isn't going to be as bleak as the other side thinks.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
 
I'm not a Trump supporter and I'm disappointed Harris did not win.

IMO the Electoral College system is flawed, as is the system whereby every state, regardless of population, has 2 senators, it's effectively antidemocratic.
Can you be more specific about the wrong in the Electoral College? More importantly, what gets fixed if you go strictly to a popular vote?

The US is a Federalist structure where power is shared between the State and the Fed. The Senate is structured to balance the interests of smaller states and larger ones with the goal of preventing large states from overpowering the legislative process. Without the current Senate arrangement, CA and NY would make all the federal rules.
Having House elections every 2 years is a needless churn meaning they're in perpectual campaign mode a month after getting elected.
That's another part of the checks and balances needed in a representative democracy. If a gov't fails to deliver on their mandate -- the voter participates directly as opposed to through a representative she elected as long as 4 years back.
I also subscribe to the Globe, so have read many articles re the strong U.S economy. In fact, my own investments have increased over the last few days, so thanks Donald. That said, income inequality in the U.S. is huge and the booming economic state is not enjoyed by everyone. The working poor are locked into a life of just scraping by. Many weeks a year spent riding in PA, OH, KY, WV and VA backroads have amply demonstrated that being poor in the U.S. is not the same as being poor in Canada. These are huge rural areas, dying small towns and closed and abandoned factories where progress and jobs have passed them by and peope have no hope. These are the rural people that are core Trump supporters because they feel he understands them and is pulling for them. They're completely deluded, but that's what they think. Trump will do nothing for these people, in fact, his crazy tariff plan will actually make much of the products and supplies that poor people spend most of their limited money on more expensive.

Sad state of affairs IMO, but they voted for it.
I have always looked at income equality as a measure of someone's willingness to work, rather than some sort of social glue-trap.

When coal made workers rich, dirt farmers left the farm to make miner's wages instead. The ones on the farms had the opportunity, but not the drive -- they stayed poorer than their mining brothers. When the mines closed, some moved along and worked on the oil and gas biz, earning big money, some stayed behind and slipped back into poverty.

If you want to swing on the porch and complain that your daddy made more as a miner than you do flipping burgers, that's OK.
OK then. Now we're going to have to dig up citations.

(EDIT: fixed link) Here's one (unfortunately not updated to reflect this past election) https://www.lgbtmap.org/img/maps/citations-polling-place-line-length.pdf
This link has nothing on the subject.
Lineups at a station that was NOT one of the two that you claim were the only ones that reported long lines: https://www.wnct.com/news/national/...-of-millions-have-already-cast-their-ballots/ Quote from article "In Nevada, one of two western presidential battlegrounds, long lines were reported in Reno and Las Vegas. After polls closed, there was still a three-hour wait at a polling location at the University of Nevada, Reno, according to local election officials." I could find more.
That talks about delays caused by Russian bomb threats. Are you suggesting the soldier on instead of suffering a delay until they confirm safety?

This has zero to do with the voting system.
About that law prohibiting handing out water to people in line ... https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/29/world/meanwhile-in-america-march-29-intl/index.html And that article also discusses the discrimination issues.
Did you read the law, or just the click bait CNN headline? The law says anything handed to voters within 150’ of a polling station must be done by a poll officer or poll volunteer. It does not say anything about water. This is to prevent partisan persuasion and is common in most states.
Wasn't Mr Trump discouraging people from using mail-in voting in 2020? Why was he (AFAICT) silent about it this time?
Yes, because it was new, and many states did not have rules, policies and procedures on the law books at that time. States all have put those in place since 2020.
 
Oh, you mean the one where a bipartisan solution was obtained but voted down by Trump supporters so that they could use the issue in elections?
You should do a little research before regurgitating headlines as facts.

First, the Dems fiddled while the border issue festered for 3+years until it turns into political gangrene.

The republicans created and negotiated a bipartisan border deal that included provisions for Ukraine and Israel funding that Trump supported. Trump reacts and says the deal is off the table after Dems subvert the funding part of the deal before the Senate vote.

Politics? Sure. Trump wanted the credit for the deal his party negotiated. Biden changed the deal, Trump says go f*** yourself, leave this to democracy (let the people weight in).

The senate then votes down the changed deal, as do 6 Dems.

Biden finally takes action using Exec Order, something he could have done for 3 years.

Blame Biden and his Border Czar, Kamala.
 
Did you read the law, or just the click bait CNN headline? The law says anything handed to voters within 150’ of a polling station must be done by a poll officer or poll volunteer. It does not say anything about water. This is to prevent partisan persuasion and is common in most states.

Here's the law: https://codes.findlaw.com/ga/title-21-elections/ga-code-sect-21-2-414/

(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:
(1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is established;
(2) Within any polling place; or
(3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.

That carve-out for "election officials discharging their duties" applies only to "establish or set up any tables or booths".

Reformatting to clarify:

No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method,

nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material,

nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector,

nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition,

nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties <emphasis mine, this is the carve-out for the description of the action which follows>, establish or set up any tables or booths

on any day in which ballots are being cast: (then go on to (1) (2) (3) describing where it applies).

If the intent had been for "other than election officials discharging their duties" to apply to ALL of the actions to which the law applies, then those words should have been put up at the beginning and the words "shall any person" taken out of the individual line items (other than one exception) - and it should read something like this:

(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, distribute or display any campaign material, nor give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector, nor solicit signatures for any petition, nor establish or set up any tables or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:

But that's not what they did.

And I understand that "common interpretation" can differ from what's actually written. The "common interpretation" may be that election officials can hand out water (for example) within the restricted area, because nobody's going to complain and arrest them for doing that. But it isn't the way the law is written.

(I dealt with analogous situations in certain Ontario laws all the time. If you strictly complied with the Occupational Health and Safety Act as-written, not allowing for "common interpretations", you could never use a power tool in a workplace, and nothing would ever get built.)
 
You should do a little research before regurgitating headlines as facts.

First, the Dems fiddled while the border issue festered for 3+years until it turns into political gangrene.

The republicans created and negotiated a bipartisan border deal that included provisions for Ukraine and Israel funding that Trump supported. Trump reacts and says the deal is off the table after Dems subvert the funding part of the deal before the Senate vote.

Politics? Sure. Trump wanted the credit for the deal his party negotiated. Biden changed the deal, Trump says go f*** yourself, leave this to democracy (let the people weight in).

The senate then votes down the changed deal, as do 6 Dems.

Biden finally takes action using Exec Order, something he could have done for 3 years.

Blame Biden and his Border Czar, Kamala.

If the Republicans were so ahead of that issue then why didn't they fix it while Trump was in power the first time? US immigration has been screwed up for decades. Instead we got "build the wall and Mexico will pay for it" (which didn't happen). And I remember hearing pressure for proper immigration reform back then, and that wasn't done.
 
If the Republicans were so ahead of that issue then why didn't they fix it while Trump was in power the first time? US immigration has been screwed up for decades. Instead we got "build the wall and Mexico will pay for it" (which didn't happen). And I remember hearing pressure for proper immigration reform back then, and that wasn't done.
If BLOTUS does one tenth of one per cent of what he promised to do I will be completely astounded. He'll be busy golfing and firing people just like last time.
 
TDS on full display this morning 😂

really hope this thread gets cleared up and not locked as it looks like the trump hater’s are trying their best to get it locked
 
The VP reportedly blew up $20 million on the concerts and now the staff and vendors fear they will not be paid for their services as the reports of the campaign being in debt emerge.

The defeated campaign’s members revealed to The Post that the concerts had emptied the coffers of the Democratic campaign. This was hinted at earlier as well when they cancelled one performance by ’90s alt-rock goddess Alanis Morissette to save some bucks, as reported by The New York Post.

The concert eve featured performances by artists such as Bon Jovi in Detroit, Christina Aguilera in Las Vegas, Katy Perry in Pittsburgh and Lady Gaga in Philadelphia. For the eighth concert, 2Chainz joined Harris in Atlanta, three days prior to the election day, on November 2.

According to reports by Politico on Thursday, despite raising a huge amount during the 107-day-long campaign, the Harris campaign ended up at least $20 million in debt. Donation pages are still active, aiming to generate funds post-election to help cover the deficit.
 
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