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sonnythebull said:
if you had a property to sell you would change your tune hoping for the highest bidder regardless of what country they were born in.....believe it
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I know I would. That's the thing, what's good for the individual isn't always good for the community as a whole. That's where social engineering comes into play. That's why we have elected leaders. Hopefully most are not on crack. Do we or do we not want to sell the country out from under our feet? The short term smart move isn't always the best long term smart move.
 
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sonnythebull said:
if you had a property to sell you would change your tune hoping for the highest bidder regardless of what country they were born in.....believe it
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He has a point. The almighty dollar is what makes the world go round. People stop caring when they see $$$$$$

As for mayor dipshit, it's no longer a left or right thing. That moron is just plain out of control. Every time he opens his mouth nothing but **** comes out. He needs to go and at the minimum get some help.
 
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backmarkerducati said:
Admittedly it is a hard problem to solve, thanks to decades of incompetence and waste there is a big wrong to right. I cannot cover all the issues here as well but here is a "taste." Toronto I think is still saveable, provincially I think we are screwed.

It is not about stopping revenue growth or never raising taxes it is about keeping it in line with inflation and/or median income growth, the catch is the first couple years this may not be possible (see wages).

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[Various statements about finding efficiencies and cutting services that merit scrutiny.]
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Finally as I noted before. I am also not entirely against an increase IF it goes to what they say it will. If we get a 3% increase to replace the Gardiner, it damn well better go to replacing the Gardiner, not to giving CUPE more money, only to ask for another increase for the Gardiner....
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So just to be clear; you're saying we MAY have to raise taxes now, but at the same time people can't afford them? Also, that the money needs to be dedicated to specific expenses ahead of time, and can never be repurposed? Because I don't think there's any administration in the world that works that way.

It would be like giving taxpayers the choice of precisely which proportion of their money is spent on each function of government every election, and the city being held to account for their choices. That sounds like a path to disaster to me, but even if it's possible, you're talking about a revolutionary new form of governance now, not exactly a plan to fix a city.

So I'm still trying to figure out where you stand, in terms of a plan to fix the city. No increased taxes, except maybe increased taxes? Planning ideas that are not supported by any evidence? Lots of cuts and efficiencies, but still no view on what the long-term effects would be on the city?

Let's just keep it simple. It's basic revenue vs. expenses. Can the city get by with existing revenue or is new revenue needed? Can expenses be controlled enough to ensure the books are balanced? And most importantly, how do these choices shape the city in years to come?
 
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With regards to regulations on foreign ownership:

Many Australian and New Zealand cities have regulations that stipulate property owners must live and work locally. They don't ban foreign ownership (which would be difficult to enforce anyway), but if the property owner does not reside locally, their property taxes are raised significantly to compensate for the loss of local revenue.

It's been a few months since I read up on it, so I can't recall if some of the cities make an exemption if the property is rented out to a local.

These cities have not collapsed or exploded or anything.

People might complain about the loss of "investment value" but the real problem is letting people think of shelter as an investment in the first place. We don't think of food as a stock-like investment, after all.
 
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I doubt the city has a coherent plan since the failed city in the park idea of the late 60s which was to build towers surrounded by empty parkland and that everyone would live in those.

I think the informal plan now is to just keep building condos and hoping the property taxes from each unit will pay for everything.

Rental buildings were built in an age where it wasn't legally possible to "own a slice of the sky" as the property owner was required to own the land. Then they changed the laws to benefit the developers. Now you can own your uncontrolled condo and pay through the nose but no land. Yay you.

So what this means is that all those condos replacing factories, office buildings, etc. is two things.

1) If everyone is living in their condo in Toronto, then it stands to reason logically all the office buildings and factories need to be on the periphery, so people will commute outward to their office towers. Permanent traffic in both directions.

2) Massive problems. The subway, hydro, etc were all laid down in the 50s when the pop was much smaller. The road system is even older. All those people commuting to their condos by cars and subway with no relief lines or roads means massive gridlock which is going to continue getting worse because of no downtown subway relief line, etc. because of all the focus on building one for lower density Scarborough with less stops. What a joke.

To properly rebuild this city, some of those condos need to be expropriated and demolished. The space is needed for important things.
 
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Sunspark said:
I doubt the city has a coherent plan since the failed city in the park idea of the late 60s which was to build towers surrounded by empty parkland and that everyone would live in those.

I think the informal plan now is to just keep building condos and hoping the property taxes from each unit will pay for everything.

Rental buildings were built in an age where it wasn't legally possible to "own a slice of the sky" as the property owner was required to own the land. Then they changed the laws to benefit the developers. Now you can own your uncontrolled condo and pay through the nose but no land. Yay you.

So what this means is that all those condos replacing factories, office buildings, etc. is two things.

1) If everyone is living in their condo in Toronto, then it stands to reason logically all the office buildings and factories need to be on the periphery, so people will commute outward to their office towers. Permanent traffic in both directions.

2) Massive problems. The subway, hydro, etc were all laid down in the 50s when the pop was much smaller. The road system is even older. All those people commuting to their condos by cars and subway with no relief lines or roads means massive gridlock which is going to continue getting worse because of no downtown subway relief line, etc. because of all the focus on building one for lower density Scarborough with less stops. What a joke.

To properly rebuild this city, some of those condos need to be expropriated and demolished. The space is needed for important things.
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And maybe add some more bicycle lanes.

;)
 
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Looks like our dear mayor has an interview with Anderson Cooper on Monday, should be good.
 
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Pretty funny. Watch before the SNL hounds sniff it out and delete it.

[video]http://www.mediaite.com/tv/snl-lampoons-mayor-rob-ford-and-60-minutes-during-cold-open/[/video]
 
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So in the last 24hrs.
asked to not wear a CFL jersey, or show up for the game
Santa Claus parade will go froward with out him
Friendly "mayor to mayor" bet over CFL game tradition was declined, HAMILTON thinks we have an idiot.
SNL lampoons the guy, an honor only given to those with the greatest of gaffs.

cant wait for tomorrow
 
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I think all this is going to be good for tourism in Toronto. Its put the city on the world map. Before this, Vancouver and Niagara Falls was the only really Iconic places in Canada now Toronto is up there too.
 
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DownUnder said:
I think all this is going to be good for tourism in Toronto. Its put the city on the world map. Before this, Vancouver and Niagara Falls was the only really Iconic places in Canada now Toronto is up there too.
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I think you may be on to something. If I recall tourism shot up in Chernobyl and Three Mile Island after they had their meltdown. Before that, the only really iconic place was Auschwitz.
 
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You're posting a graph from the magazine run by Ford's #1 enemy, assgate Sarah Thomson? Of course it's completely unbiased.
 
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LiNK666 said:
But he did end up saving Torontonians money over his term...
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To be recovered with interest over the next mayor's term. Either that, or we scale back for lack of funds until we start to resemble Detroit
 
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fastar1 said:
To be recovered with interest over the next mayor's term. Either that, or we scale back for lack of funds until we start to resemble Detroit
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I can't wait for the zombie apocalypse. Apocalypses solve everything!
 
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