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Some reasonable ideas in there. Nothing I see that would cause a problem IF it were all implemented together like that. But of course a real, detailed, well-structured plan needs a disciplined, intelligent, and charismatic person to sell it and to shepherd it through council.

The problem hasn't been a lack of good plans. Those have come and go a couple times in the past twenty years. Things like the Drummond report or Transit city weren't perfect, but at least they were mostly sound, with a good plan, timetable and all the rest. The problem is a nearly-complete failure of leadership at all three levels of government. Too much small-time, petty, and extremely partisan thinking.

For instance, removing the bike lanes on Jarvis didn't bother me so much because I was pro-or-anti cyclist (disclaimer: I do bicycle a lot), but because we spent $400,000 between Miller and Ford and got absolutely nothing for it in the end. The same thing happened when Mike Harris cancelled the Eglinton subway. They didn't just cancel the project, they actually buried the half-built stations. We paid someone to build them, then we paid someone to fill them in. How much money did that mean-spirited bit of petty bull**** cost us? It feels like that's all we've been doing for the past twenty years.

Also a not-particularly-related question:

What do you think of current development fees? A lot of surrounding municipalities have recalculated their development costs based on more recent numbers and have raised developer fees as a result. Is that appropriate for Toronto, you think?

After 30 years worth of inattention, I think that you can drop the word "borderline."

+1. Little piddly moves aren't going to do much for anyone right now. Though a big and dramatic move that's just big for the sake of being dramatic probably won't help either. We need sustained discipline over a long period of time, with sure leadership to shore it up.

I had a good offer out in Quebec...but wife didn't really want to move so we refused it. There's a lot of work out in NFLD with the new building of the oil fields, and some hydro work out in Goose Bay.

Ideally....I'd find something that's a 2 weeks on and 1 or 2 weeks off site....that I'd jump on tomorrow if I could.

Me, I'd hate to be out west. I was born in Winnipeg and if I never live through another prairie winter again, I'm good. BC's very nice, but good luck affording anything there - Vancouver would be the one place to move to make my income/housing/traffic problems WORSE.

The two places I think I'd be very happy to move to for a decent job are the Maritimes, or the K-W/Cambridge/Guelph area. Used to live in Guelph and it's a very nice town. Even with the way it's expanded recently (yes, people are commuting from Guelph too!), it's still a nice place to live. Ottawa or Quebec would be okay if it was a really good opportunity, I suppose (I can speak French, so even moving to Quebec City would be something I could be cool with).

Of course none of those places are really a hot job market. Plus both the wife and myself have some medical conditions which are being well-treated in Toronto, which puts a big question mark over any move (in my case, a permanent pre-cancerous condition that is mostly harmless, but needs to be carefully monitored for life).
 
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For development fees I think they should go up but big jumps may not be a good idea. Not because I am looking out for the developer but because they are a pass through to the buyer, that is another potential tax on the middle class, and potentially working families that might be disproportionally applied. So we need to look at all the numbers before just jacking them.

As much as I would like to see someone win with what I said it is unlikely (but not impossible). The left will not vote for them due to unions. The right will not vote for them because there are no tax cuts (actually increases following as close to inflation as possible).

So you would have to lie, hide the agenda, and then four years is not enough to get it done. Never-mind the rest of council fighting you at every turn to keep funding their special projects.
 
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For development fees I think they should go up but big jumps may not be a good idea. Not because I am looking out for the developer but because they are a pass through to the buyer, that is another potential tax on the middle class, and potentially working families that might be disproportionally applied. So we need to look at all the numbers before just jacking them.

As much as I would like to see someone win with what I said it is unlikely (but not impossible). The left will not vote for them due to unions. The right will not vote for them because there are no tax cuts (actually increases following as close to inflation as possible).

So you would have to lie, hide the agenda, and then four years is not enough to get it done. Never-mind the rest of council fighting you at every turn to keep funding their special projects.

One of the most frustrating things about watching Ford is that he has vastly more charisma than any of his competitors. If he had brains and discipline (and was able to keep his nose clean), his stubbornness could have actually driven a good, reasonable plan through council and probably would have been a lock for reelection to keep it going.

I am reminded of an old quote about Hank Williams, another notorious old drunkard who was in fact killed by his boozing: "You've got a million-dollar talent, son, but a ten-cent brain."
 
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Ford will never be a productive member of city council because he doesn't know how to work with others. Its either his plan or the highway even when he doesn't have any of the right facts like LRT.
 
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Ford will never be a productive member of city council because he doesn't know how to work with others. Its either his plan or the highway even when he doesn't have any of the right facts like LRT.

He acts a lot like this guy
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One of the most frustrating things about watching Ford is that he has vastly more charisma than any of his competitors. If he had brains and discipline (and was able to keep his nose clean), his stubbornness could have actually driven a good, reasonable plan through council and probably would have been a lock for reelection to keep it going.

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He still doesn't get it.
Council has taken away his budget and more of his 'powers' as Mayor, yet he wants to sue?

http://www.cp24.com/news/ford/counc...powers-mayor-threatens-legal-action-1.1544424

Oh man. Add another gem to the list of quotes: "Rob Ford: "I would've supported what they're doing" if another mayor did what I did, but since it's me, "I have to support myself.""
 
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He still doesn't get it.
Council has taken away his budget and more of his 'powers' as Mayor, yet he wants to sue?

http://www.cp24.com/news/ford/counc...powers-mayor-threatens-legal-action-1.1544424

Oh man. Add another gem to the list of quotes: "Rob Ford: "I would've supported what they're doing" if another mayor did what I did, but since it's me, "I have to support myself.""

Don't forget his threatening council with how much tax money they will end up wasting for the taxpayer when the city has to defend Fords lawsuit. The distortion field Ford lives in is astounding and he has no case just like he can't sue people who make statements to police.
 
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Ford will never be a productive member of city council because he doesn't know how to work with others. Its either his plan or the highway even when he doesn't have any of the right facts like LRT.

He WAS a productive member of City Council at one point. Okay, maybe not productive for council itself, but for his constituents anyway.

He was okay as the guy on the outside who was all "RAW RAW, FIGHT THE POWER" for the people in his ward. He returned calls and listened to folks and nagged city staff to get little things done. He still said ridiculous things in council and clearly had a lot of bad ideas, but since he didn't actually have any real power it wasn't a huge issue.

The mistake was in giving him any power.
 
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He WAS a productive member of City Council at one point. Okay, maybe not productive for council itself, but for his constituents anyway.

He was okay as the guy on the outside who was all "RAW RAW, FIGHT THE POWER" for the people in his ward. He returned calls and listened to folks and nagged city staff to get little things done. He still said ridiculous things in council and clearly had a lot of bad ideas, but since he didn't actually have any real power it wasn't a huge issue.

The mistake was in giving him any power.

His Schtick for so many years was to poo poo everything. The problem is he had no good ideas of what to do instead and it has shown during his tenure as Mayor.

Rob ford is good at doing the little stuff but has no concept of the big picture.
 
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"Mr. Ford told councillors he has hired veteran municipal lawyer George Rust-D’Eye at his own expense"

You just can't make this stuff up.
 
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IMHO, part of what screwed up Ontario other than job outsourcing, was that our pay increases didn't match living. A lot of talk here about mill rates.

Fact is, people who live here are at a disadvantage because they are competing for purchases with non-resident non-canadian foreigners who have large sums and even when it is "too much" here it still seems cheap.

Other countries don't allow foreigners to buy land. If we want to stop the stupidity with condos and houses, end this practice and make it retroactive.

Let a citizen buy and the foreigner can rent is what I say.
 
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I'll also add 1 more postscript about mill rates.

They're based on a "standard" way of living. When you have places like Brampton with multiple families living in a space of 1, they're paying the mill rate for 1 even if 20 children actually live there. Only 1 lot has been purchased by the non-Canadian.

Since I'm going to be accused of being a right wing racist, in your response please also mention why it's a bad idea to restrict land purchasing to citizens of the country and why its ok to leave taxes as-is such as in Brampton where you have multiple families living in a lot zoned for 1.

Trivia: Hong Kong as a colony did not have taxes for a hundred years. We had to pay taxes the entire time.
 
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IMHO, part of what screwed up Ontario other than job outsourcing, was that our pay increases didn't match living. A lot of talk here about mill rates.

Fact is, people who live here are at a disadvantage because they are competing for purchases with non-resident non-canadian foreigners who have large sums and even when it is "too much" here it still seems cheap.

Other countries don't allow foreigners to buy land. If we want to stop the stupidity with condos and houses, end this practice and make it retroactive.

Let a citizen buy and the foreigner can rent is what I say.

if you had a property to sell you would change your tune hoping for the highest bidder regardless of what country they were born in.....believe it
 
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if you had a property to sell you would change your tune hoping for the highest bidder regardless of what country they were born in.....believe it

You hit the nail right in the head. Too many Canadians don't. It takes your average Canadian 30 years of working, without paying taxes, going on foot, going around naked, not having entertainment expenses, not using electricity, not needing heat and not eating to afford to buy a home in a major urban center (where the jobs are) and mortgage interest that comes with it.
 
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I have read, hopefully a bit of an extreme example, that in London in the UK there are now people who have jobs but have to live in their car because they can't afford to rent an apartment.

It was also pointed out that every city needs service workers and there needs to be a mix of housing. It's not very reasonable or sustainable to expect service workers to commute for 2 hours each way just to get to their low wage jobs.

I'm not currently a service worker but I have been, and I remember how crap it was always asking my boss every week for as many hours as he could give me. I was officially part time the entire time even though in hours worked it worked out to about full time. The advantage to the corp is not having to pay any medical benefits and pay increases are like 10 cents an hour per year. Laws increasing minimum wage are not the solution because the real problem is cost of living. If I commute from the outlying region and GO increases the rates 10% and I only had a 1% increase in pay, I've now suffered a drop in income.
 
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if you had a property to sell you would change your tune hoping for the highest bidder regardless of what country they were born in.....believe it

In the long run who should we support, foreign investors and condo flippers or canadian families?

This get rich flipping real estate makes as much sense as a pyramid scheme.

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