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I have been in the storage/animal housing building behind the main stage at Marineland several hundred times. I know for a fact your opinion is wrong.

so have i, and thus your opinion is wrong,

the animals seem well cared for. are the housings big enough? probably not, but cruelty? no.
 
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There is something fundamentally wrong caging animals for our pleasure.
 
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There is something fundamentally wrong caging animals for our pleasure.

Better to eat them. MMM burgers.
 
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Funny you should mention that because Newton's laws have proven to be inaccurate based on the theory of relativity. They're close enough to be able to draw reliable conclusions for select events, like riding a motorcycle, but we wouldn't have GPS if we hadn't learned about relativity since then. We've make up and throw out scientific "laws" all the time through our history as we've observed more and more about reality. There's no question that some of the laws that we accept now will be discarded in the future as well.

I'm not saying that OUR laws of science can't be relied upon, I'm just saying that's a small act of faith.

The theory of relativity is as it is stated a "theory".
It was corrected but its still a theory today
 
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the animals seem well cared for. are the housings big enough? probably not, but cruelty? no.


Keeping a full grown male walrus in a 15' diameter pen 22 hours a day, only bringing it out to perform on stage isn't cruel? Ok.
 
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after the slushie attack doug ford thinks his brother needs a body guard

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...mayor-rob-ford-security-concerns.html?cmp=rss

A weekend incident in which a drink was thrown at Toronto Mayor Rob Ford highlights the need for him to have a security detail at public events, his councillor brother says.
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A frame grab from an online video shows Shannon Everett, the 27-year-old facing an assault charge against the mayor. Everett is accused of throwing a drink at the mayor during a street festival. (Video framegrab)
Ford was attending an annual street party in Toronto's Little Italy neighbourhood when a woman walked up and threw a drink at him.
The mayor was unharmed in the incident. Shannon Everett, 27, of Toronto, is accused of throwing the drink and faces a charge of assault.
Little is known about Everett, but her lawyer, Marie Henein, released a statement on Tuesday describing her as "a young yoga teacher and multimedia developer" who has had no prior involvement with the police.
Ford alluded to the drink-throwing incident on his Sunday radio show, saying that he was splashed in the face.
[h=3]Liquid 'could have been battery acid'[/h]"That hurt, man," he said, adding that he believed there may have been alcohol in the beverage.
The statement from Everett's lawyer said that it was "unfortunate" that the mayor has commented on the case "repeatedly outside the judicial forum" and that her client is looking forward to defending herself in court.
In the meantime, Coun. Doug Ford told reporters Monday that he wonders if the weekend incident could embolden someone else to do something more serious.
"The concern is, does this give the green light to any other crazy person out there that wants to throw something hot on him or go after [him with] a weapon?" he said, following similar comments he made on the weekly radio show he hosts with his brother.
Those concerns are shared by security expert Tom Hart, who also questioned what could have happened if something else had been in the cup.
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Coun. Doug Ford thinks it would be worthwhile to have security with the mayor when he attends large public events.(CBC)
"That water, soda, whatever was thrown on him, could have been battery acid, so it represents a serious threat to him," Hart told CBC News in an interview.
Hart said the mayor should take advantage of the services that the Toronto police dignitary protection unit can provide.
Coun. Ford said he believes the mayor wouldn't need security around him all the time, but perhaps at large events like the weekend street party where the drink was thrown.
Mayor Ford has previously waved off calls for him to have a personal driver. He also faced a death threat two years ago, though he downplayed it then, saying that he didn't take it "that seriously."
On Monday, he appeared to be similarly unfazed by any push to have a security detail follow him around.
When the CBC's Jamie Strashin asked the mayor on Monday if he would consider employing a security detail, Ford joked that the reporter was all the protection that he needed.
"You're my security detail," Ford said, as he drove his Cadillac Escalade out of the parking lot at city hall.
[h=3]Mayor under the microscope[/h]In recent weeks, Ford has been followed by a seemingly omnipresent group of reporters after a pair of reports were published saying that the mayor had been recorded on video using crack cocaine.
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So far, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford seems reluctant to accept a security detail at public events. (CBC)
Ford, 44, has denied that such a video exists. He has also said that he does not use crack cocaine and that he is not addicted to it.
The story about the video was picked up by news agencies around the world. The U.S. gossip website Gawker raised $200,000 in an attempt to purchase it from someone who was shopping it to media on both sides of the border. But since then, Gawker has been unable to contact the source it had been dealing with and the alleged video has not come to light.
On Monday, a posting on Gawker said the website has decided to make preparations "for the likelihood that the video eludes our grasp." The plan, if it cannot buy the video as it had hoped, is to donate the collected funds to a non-profit in Canada that helps people with addictions.
[h=3]Top court to announce intentions on conflict of interest case[/h]Also Monday, the Supreme Court said that it will announce on Thursday whether it will hear an appeal in the conflict of interest challenge that previously threatened to oust Ford from office.
Last year, Toronto resident Paul Magder brought forward an applicationalleging that Ford had violated the Municipal Conflict of Interest Actwhen he spoke before and subsequently participated in a February 2012 council vote that absolved his need to pay back donations that went to his private football foundation.
An Ontario Superior Court justice ordered that Ford should be removed from office, but that decision was then overturned in January by a Divisional Court panel and the mayor kept his job.
Ford was elected as the mayor of Toronto in October 2010. He was sworn in the following December.
Prior to becoming mayor, Ford had spent a decade serving as a city councillor in Etobicoke, the Toronto suburb where he lives with his family.
 
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She deserves a few days in jail.
Does she do this to other people?
What gives her the right to throw something at someone?
 
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Keeping a full grown male walrus in a 15' diameter pen 22 hours a day, only bringing it out to perform on stage isn't cruel? Ok.

I would state that it is but that isn't the standard that's applied, nor is it the sort of thing that was claimed.
 
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A frame grab from an online video shows Shannon Everett, the 27-year-old facing an assault charge against the mayor. Everett is accused of throwing a drink at the mayor during a street festival. .

Oh boy. Is she single?
Señorita bonita, please call me for free legal advice.
<With King Julien XIII's voice> Come on my blondie queen, we'll throw slushies in the Pantheon!
 
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She deserves a few days in jail.
Does she do this to other people?
What gives her the right to throw something at someone?

What did you say?

:angry7:

She's going to be my date, you leave her alone!
 
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What did you say?

:angry7:

She's going to be my date, you leave her alone!

If I was Ford I would tell her to take one in the pooper & I'll forget about the charges
 
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The theory of relativity is as it is stated a "theory".
It was corrected but its still a theory today

It's just a name. Sometimes it's called the law of relativity, or just 'relativity'. I think when the theory predicts everything it claims to predict over a hundred years, and helps produce things like GPS and the Large Hadron Collider, then it's pretty much graduated from the theoretical stage.
 
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As for the assault being a "political statement", I'm assuming you're referring to civil disobedience precedents. Even if not, they would come to play if she tried to play that card. In general civil disobedience has been defined as "non-violent".
 
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It's just a name. Sometimes it's called the law of relativity, or just 'relativity'. I think when the theory predicts everything it claims to predict over a hundred years, and helps produce things like GPS and the Large Hadron Collider, then it's pretty much graduated from the theoretical stage.

Not really. Things like evolution are still referred to as theories, despite their age, because they tend to undergo constant refinement in order to best fit the observed data. You really don't hear about much being referred to as a "law" these days, that wasn't first postulated centuries back. That's because scientists recognize that everything is essentially a theory, as it's subject to repeated testing.

As for the assault being a "political statement", I'm assuming you're referring to civil disobedience precedents. Even if not, they would come to play if she tried to play that card. In general civil disobedience has been defined as "non-violent".

Civil disobedience; typified by the act referred to as the 'sit in', which is literally a bunch of people taking up space. That's about as non violent as you can get. Assault isn't a form of protest, it's a form of violent crime.
 
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Not really. Things like evolution are still referred to as theories, despite their age, because they tend to undergo constant refinement in order to best fit the observed data. You really don't hear about much being referred to as a "law" these days, that wasn't first postulated centuries back. That's because scientists recognize that everything is essentially a theory, as it's subject to repeated testing.

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Or maybe most laws are already discovered. Physics is one of the older sciences.

I believe relativity was postulated by a series of equations. Nothing solid. I believe gravity is also a theory
 
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Exactly!
And political statement is opinion
And opinion is protected under freedom of speech
Therefore... just drop the charges!



While I do not have intimate knowledge of the Act that provides protection for freedom of speech, I would be very surprised if the definition of "speach" contained in the Act includes throwing items at people. Just sayin...
 
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While I do not have intimate knowledge of the Act that provides protection for freedom of speech, I would be very surprised if the definition of "speach" contained in the Act includes throwing items at people. Just sayin...

Assault wouldn't fall under that and you can make a good assault case for throwing a drink at a person. Not like she was just blowing bubbles :cool:
 

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