Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
burning an effigy is kind of violent too
burning an effigy is kind of violent too
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Bye Bye Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
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Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
That ends up being a matter of interpretation. If it causes very real fear of someone physically attacking the person after they have burnt the effigy, then it could be classed as assault. In general it's a rather litigant form of political 'speech' though.
That ends up being a matter of interpretation. If it causes very real fear of someone physically attacking the person after they have burnt the effigy, then it could be classed as assault. In general it's a rather litigant form of political 'speech' though.
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
rob gets to breath easy
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...enies-bid-appeal-toronto-mayor-135810355.html
rob gets to breath easy
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...enies-bid-appeal-toronto-mayor-135810355.html
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
In effect, all of science is theoretical because no theory can ever be proven, only disproven. Newton's rules of motion are generally referred to as "laws", which is funny since they actually fail in specific circumstances. But they're still useful approximations of reality so they stick around in engineering and such.
The names of these rules, theories or laws, doesn't change the fact that they are not the rules of reality, they are man-made rules.
To tie it all back in to the topic; it doesn't matter what Rob did or didn't do, it only matters what people think he did. And this will always be true whether the video is ever revealed or not, and whether it's debunked or not. Because such news would only change what people think, they wouldn't change reality.
In effect, all of science is theoretical because no theory can ever be proven, only disproven. Newton's rules of motion are generally referred to as "laws", which is funny since they actually fail in specific circumstances. But they're still useful approximations of reality so they stick around in engineering and such.
The names of these rules, theories or laws, doesn't change the fact that they are not the rules of reality, they are man-made rules.
To tie it all back in to the topic; it doesn't matter what Rob did or didn't do, it only matters what people think he did. And this will always be true whether the video is ever revealed or not, and whether it's debunked or not. Because such news would only change what people think, they wouldn't change reality.
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This is starting to get real deep what with smoking crack, cognitive dissonance, relativity and perceptions of reality and all. I'm starting to think its similar to Schrödinger's cat, Ford both smoked crack and didn't smoke crack all at once and the uncertainty around it will not be resolved until we "open the box" - or should I say "find the video" (which is a metaphor for the box, which is a metaphor for quantum mechanics).
This is starting to get real deep what with smoking crack, cognitive dissonance, relativity and perceptions of reality and all. I'm starting to think its similar to Schrödinger's cat, Ford both smoked crack and didn't smoke crack all at once and the uncertainty around it will not be resolved until we "open the box" - or should I say "find the video" (which is a metaphor for the box, which is a metaphor for quantum mechanics).
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
I like the way you twist things around to make it work. Are you a chronic liar by any chance?
I like the way you twist things around to make it work. Are you a chronic liar by any chance?
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
Not sure if that was in response to his explanation of scientific laws and theories, or how he related it to Rob Ford...
But how fastar1 is defining scientific laws and theories is definitely accurate, we make these up to help us explain the natural universe. Newtonian mechanics and relativity are both pillars of science, but that doesn't mean we won't poke and prod at them to test that... relativity was just under fire as you know, and if that had have panned out, that doesn't mean we would throw it out, just means we tweak it a bit.
All of that is to say we can't say with 100% certainty how something will react in the world, we just predict it with the tools we have on hand, and the tools we gain with further discoveries
Not sure if that was in response to his explanation of scientific laws and theories, or how he related it to Rob Ford...
But how fastar1 is defining scientific laws and theories is definitely accurate, we make these up to help us explain the natural universe. Newtonian mechanics and relativity are both pillars of science, but that doesn't mean we won't poke and prod at them to test that... relativity was just under fire as you know, and if that had have panned out, that doesn't mean we would throw it out, just means we tweak it a bit.
All of that is to say we can't say with 100% certainty how something will react in the world, we just predict it with the tools we have on hand, and the tools we gain with further discoveries
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
I could argue all day, but that's a different thread
I could argue all day, but that's a different thread
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Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
Fraud against the government + breach of trust + conspiracy and municipal corruption = Greed, makes the city look corrupted
My guess is that people in Montreal (and all of Canada) accepts the fact the guy did it for money. It is understandable for a politician to eventually become corrupted.
Crack addiction = Skell, makes the city look like it is full of lowlife drug addicts on welfare
People in Toronto wonder, could the crack be the explanation?
Fraud against the government + breach of trust + conspiracy and municipal corruption = Greed, makes the city look corrupted
My guess is that people in Montreal (and all of Canada) accepts the fact the guy did it for money. It is understandable for a politician to eventually become corrupted.
Crack addiction = Skell, makes the city look like it is full of lowlife drug addicts on welfare
People in Toronto wonder, could the crack be the explanation?
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
Then you aren't watching the news or listening to the radio. This is GTAM, so people tend to talk more about GTA-centric issues.
Then you aren't watching the news or listening to the radio. This is GTAM, so people tend to talk more about GTA-centric issues.
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
(Fraud against the government + breach of trust + conspiracy and municipal corruption) < (smoking crack + using city letter head + using city transport to transport your football team) ??
Maybe I'm not reading this right, so...
(Fraud against the government + breach of trust + conspiracy and municipal corruption) < (smoking crack + using city letter head + using city transport to transport your football team) ??
I've been watching the news, he certainly doesn't get as much air time as Rob.
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
steal from the gvt and they will hang you
Are you watching Quebec local news or Ontario news?
steal from the gvt and they will hang you
Are you watching Quebec local news or Ontario news?
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/us_and_canada/
There ya go: BBC World has a headline about the replacement for the mayor of Montreal, nothing about Toronto. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23057743
Just have to get out of our local bubble.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/us_and_canada/
There ya go: BBC World has a headline about the replacement for the mayor of Montreal, nothing about Toronto. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23057743
Just have to get out of our local bubble.
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
If he admitted to it, how would you know if he is telling the truth then?
hmmm conundrum
If he admitted to it, how would you know if he is telling the truth then?
hmmm conundrum
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
And since my point was that nothing is really known, at a philosophical level, then doesn't that mean I don't know what I'm talking about?
Double conundrum.
Conundrumdrum.
And since my point was that nothing is really known, at a philosophical level, then doesn't that mean I don't know what I'm talking about?
Double conundrum.
Conundrumdrum.
Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
Since it seems to matter to you, in the Metro paper today there was a blurb about the new mayor of Montreal and not a word about Ford. But FYI, it doesn't mean the Montreal mayor was "more bad" than Ford yesterday, or in general. Editors just publish whatever they think is most newsworthy at any given time, either a subject of importance of something that will get a lot of eyeballs.
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