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Really? More of the "unnamed" sources said this and that BS. I hate defending him but this alleged **** has to stop. STFU untill you do have positive proof.
This **** show is entertaining... I had thought the smoking crack scandal had blown over but it won't go away. So while everyone is looking at the mayor what is the rest of council sneaking through? Everyone has skeletons in their closet
 
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Maybe this is all a smoke screen to blind us from the Millions McSquinty dumped
 
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I think he looked like a tweaking crack smoker today when he asked why the media can't get it through their 'thick heads'. Now the police have wiretaps that drug dealers are talking about it BEFORE the evil left-wing conspirators at the Star and Gawker tried to destroy this totally innocent man by fabricating a completely made up story. Has anyone shown 100% proof yet...no....but how about this---if you heard your girlfriend/wife (or husband/boyfriend) was filmed having sex at a party with someone---and all this hearsay evidence came to light---people saying they saw the video....friends of theirs telling you that she told them she knows where the video is.....and she would only say "i'm not having sex with that guy" and "I cannot comment on a video that I have never seen or does not exist"
NEVER saying once that there is NO CHANCE a video exists because it is impossible for there to be a video....Can you honestly say you would believe her---and life would go back to normal? Those people are just conspiring against her cause she's prettier than them.
As i said before---the guy might be great at his job even though he likes to let loose and party now and then....i know a LOT of people who party very hard and are awesome people and great workers....BUT you can't blame people for being concerned that he not only smokes/smoked it, but he continues to lie about it (as he has lied about other stuff- till he gets caught red-handed). Makes people wonder what else he is concealing.
If Ford smokes crack it doesn't affect me either way---i live north of Toronto and my local politicians reply to my emails in minutes, get the roads swept of gravel the day after i complain, and make sure the garbage gets picked up on time. Our mayor probably knows a quarter of the town by name, and would probably (really) not inhale if handed a crack pipe in college.
Meanwhile...
I hate McSquinty as much as the next person, but the only smoke screen blinding anyone is likely the one exhaled by the mayor.
 
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Five press conferences where you were asked and answered the same questions, and you'd be asking why they couldn't get it through their thick heads too.
 
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he should go out and do a spoof oh himself smoking crack but make the video look real
then he should release/leak the video and let the media run wild
guaranteed to be elected for 4 more years once he pops up and says belated Aprils fools biatches
how you like me now?
 
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If I called the star and told them I saw Ford wheeling a vespa they would print it the next day.
 
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If I called the star and told them I saw Ford wheeling a vespa they would print it the next day.

Better make up something about his trip to Thailand :D
 
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Can the toronto star not be taken to court over this? I am sure there is some charge some lawyer can come up with. Something like slandering one's image? Or the citys image?

Media has stopped reporting reality and has gotten into the business of creating reality. They no longer report the news they make the news. I mean this crack smoking image can be a doctored image done by any one with mediocre photoshop skills.

Did the media not create the "reality" of saddam husein and WMD's? And look at the cost and result of that.

The Star and anyone else on this crusade of destroying Ford, should be held responsible for their actions unless proof is shown. Otherwise it just sets a bad precedence. There are media conglomerates around the world watching this rob ford crack fiasco and learning how to improve on the recipe.

We live in a world controlled by media now. Something goes on TV and all the drones are like "DAMN it must be true".

This is scary crap man. All the kids growing up, the facetube generation, they are just going to be controlled by media as they become judge jury and executioner.
 
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This is scary crap man. All the kids growing up, the facetube generation, they are just going to be controlled by media as they become judge jury and executioner.

+1

I don't think most people fully realize (I don't think I do) how much of a warping effect the onslaught the ever expanding electronic age has on society. Truly scary. There's so much more to deal with now I don't think a person fully matures until age 40. Back in the day you knew all you needed to know by 21. Opt out.
 
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Can the toronto star not be taken to court over this? I am sure there is some charge some lawyer can come up with. Something like slandering one's image? Or the citys image?

Media has stopped reporting reality and has gotten into the business of creating reality. They no longer report the news they make the news. I mean this crack smoking image can be a doctored image done by any one with mediocre photoshop skills.

Did the media not create the "reality" of saddam husein and WMD's? And look at the cost and result of that.

The Star and anyone else on this crusade of destroying Ford, should be held responsible for their actions unless proof is shown. Otherwise it just sets a bad precedence. There are media conglomerates around the world watching this rob ford crack fiasco and learning how to improve on the recipe.

We live in a world controlled by media now. Something goes on TV and all the drones are like "DAMN it must be true".

This is scary crap man. All the kids growing up, the facetube generation, they are just going to be controlled by media as they become judge jury and executioner.

i don't think the media created the illusion of WMDs. It's hard to believe that the US govt would take "media" reports of WMDs. You can blame that one the CIA, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others at the top. After all there have been "media" reports of gas in Syria. But the US is still waiting for "proof".

As for the court action of the Ford's, they are free to take the star to court. But that would involve evidence, affidavits and examination. The only question I would have about that is why have they not taken this to the courts. It's a double edged sword and who knows what else could be dug up.
 
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i don't think the media created the illusion of WMDs. It's hard to believe that the US govt would take "media" reports of WMDs. You can blame that one the CIA, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others at the top. After all there have been "media" reports of gas in Syria. But the US is still waiting for "proof".

As for the court action of the Ford's, they are free to take the star to court. But that would involve evidence, affidavits and examination. The only question I would have about that is why have they not taken this to the courts. It's a double edged sword and who knows what else could be dug up.


+1

There is no way the Fords are taking this to the courts.
 
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i don't think the media created the illusion of WMDs. It's hard to believe that the US govt would take "media" reports of WMDs. You can blame that one the CIA, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others at the top. After all there have been "media" reports of gas in Syria. But the US is still waiting for "proof".

The WMD business was trumped up by the Bush administration, to try and support their actions. The only WMDs that I can recall were ever found, were in an old dry riverbed and had been put there prior to "Desert Storm." In other words they were old, rusted, and useless. The Pentagon inflated enemy casualty rates during the Vietnam War, in much the same way. 'Well we knew they were there and we expended so many thousands of rounds, so we must have killed........ a thousand? OK, we'll say 1400." Of course there would be either no, or one or two bodies found.

As for the court action of the Ford's, they are free to take the star to court. But that would involve evidence, affidavits and examination. The only question I would have about that is why have they not taken this to the courts. It's a double edged sword and who knows what else could be dug up.

The Star is pretty much judgment proof, as long as they keep reporting on what other people are supposedly saying. Given that, it's foolish to sue them. Ford was already out roughly $250K for court costs, over the issue that almost saw him removed from office. Hazel McCallion says that she's out more than $400K for the same thing. When you're in that deep a hole, you'd better stop digging.
 
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The mayor has some pie in his face.
Or some juice... apparently they ran out of pie at Little Italy.

Now, the young lady who threw the juice to his face was arrested.

Why arrest her? That is non conductive to anything. Remember they guy who threw his shoe to George Bush and went to jail for it? It actually increased the hate against the president and the USA.

If Ford was sharp, he would publicly forgive this young lady, all charges be dropped.
 
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The mayor has some pie in his face.
Or some juice... apparently they ran out of pie at Little Italy.

Now, the young lady who threw the juice to his face was arrested.

Why arrest her? That is non conductive to anything. Remember they guy who threw his shoe to George Bush and went to jail for it? It actually increased the hate against the president and the USA.

If Ford was sharp, he would publicly forgive this young lady, all charges be dropped.

It's assault and it's not a good idea to make people think that you can get away with that sort of thing.
 
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The mayor has some pie in his face.
Or some juice... apparently they ran out of pie at Little Italy.

Now, the young lady who threw the juice to his face was arrested.

Why arrest her? That is non conductive to anything. Remember they guy who threw his shoe to George Bush and went to jail for it? It actually increased the hate against the president and the USA.

If Ford was sharp, he would publicly forgive this young lady, all charges be dropped.

Thank God we're not in a dictatorship, she would've been hanged
 
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Can the toronto star not be taken to court over this? I am sure there is some charge some lawyer can come up with. Something like slandering one's image? Or the citys image?

Media has stopped reporting reality and has gotten into the business of creating reality. They no longer report the news they make the news. I mean this crack smoking image can be a doctored image done by any one with mediocre photoshop skills.

Did the media not create the "reality" of saddam husein and WMD's? And look at the cost and result of that.
That was the US government actually. It's funny you should use that example because the Star was one of the only major media outlets to try and find fault with the official line regarding WMDs. I remember reading this article that debunked the notion of nuclear capability in Iraq; http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/thestar...nded+in+'91+Played+part+in+plan+to+build+bomb

I challenge you to find anything at all in the Sun that didn't tow the official line of WMDs in Iraq.

The Star and anyone else on this crusade of destroying Ford, should be held responsible for their actions unless proof is shown. Otherwise it just sets a bad precedence. There are media conglomerates around the world watching this rob ford crack fiasco and learning how to improve on the recipe.

We live in a world controlled by media now. Something goes on TV and all the drones are like "DAMN it must be true".

This is scary crap man. All the kids growing up, the facetube generation, they are just going to be controlled by media as they become judge jury and executioner.
You don't understand journalism. The major outlets live and die on their credibility, and while I would agree that the Star has cried wolf on the subject of Ford in some instances when the 'wolf' was just a cub, or a stuffed wolf, or many things other than a genuine threat to us, they have technically always been correct. Just because they have a hate-on for Ford doesn't automatically make their information false, as the Ford camp seems to want people to believe. BTW is was Gawker that broke the story first.

Anyways the world has been shaped by public opinion for centuries now, it's not a new thing and the media have always played a huge role in that. The prevalence of social media and cameras everywhere is actually a huge benefit to the publishing of accurate and reliable information. Look at the Ragu incident. The CIA even uses twitter as a source of information after filtering out the unreliable contributors based on cross-checking with known info, and based on the self-policing of incorrect info that takes place between different twitter accounts. Now you have perspectives from every angle and the public gets to choose the most reasonable explanation based on the preponderance of evidence and the reliability of sources.

In this case, I believe the video exists based on several sources of information;
- An addictions specialist I know assessed him as being addicted to oxycontin based on his behaviour and habits, well before the word of the video came out.
- knowledge (forum member) said well before the video came out that he had knowledge of his drug use.
- The video was shown twice to two separate media outlets, who both reported seeing the exact same thing. Watch this and tell me with a straight face that the two outlets were working together: http://youtu.be/AmElwoVY0WU
- While the Star may have a vendetta against him, they have never lied before.
- A drug habit fits with his history of spouse abuse, violence against strangers, angry outbursts, inappropriate sexual advances, being asked to leave an event due to apparent intoxication.
- Rob didn't deny the video or any drug habit until a week after it was reported.
I also believe the video is real, for many of the same reasons. This is all quite a separate problem from his total incompetence as mayor, BTW.

What are your reasons for believing the video is fake, or nonexistent?
 
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Anyways the world has been shaped by public opinion for centuries now, it's not a new thing and the media have always played a huge role in that. The prevalence of social media and cameras everywhere is actually a huge benefit to the publishing of accurate and reliable information.

The media has always played a huge role in shaping public opinion? A room full of experts on any given subject can't agree on facts and the media, who cover a vast range of subjects, are going to nail it every time?
Here's some accurate and reliable information via social media (Romper Room is social media, right?): every time I read a news article about a subject I know, it's flawed. How am I to assume everything else is not flawed? Fact is if you didn't see it happen with your own two eyes it's subject to distortion. Social media and cameras everywhere can be a benefit but it's not a given. It can also skew public opinion.
 

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