Re: BY By Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
Take off the rose coloured glasss, Rob. The last Liberal leader was a tax evader.
Take off the rose coloured glasss, Rob. The last Liberal leader was a tax evader.
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Bye Bye Tommy boy Ford kicked out!!
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It's always interesting when someone has to start breaking apart my sentences, in order to try and rebut my points.
No, but being a leader who doesn't listen to the regional electorate, doesn't talk to the press (our proxy to politicians), and doesn't seem to trust his subordinates to speak certainly points at someone being a bad leader. When we toss in contempt of Parliament, it becomes a virtual certainty.
Actually I'm talking about the "Canada's Action Plan" commercials, which are patently commercials for the Conservative Party. That's millions of dollars that didn't need to be spent on telling us what a good job he's doing.
There was a time when the Rhino Party had to run multiple candidates in many ridings because they were, as they put it then, "In danger of winning in several ridings." The big three parties stood up and took notice, because Rhino votes were obvious protest votes. I would rather vote my displeasure than vote for a candidate I don't support.
We're talking Federal, not Provincial. The Federal Liberals were starting to pay down the debt. The Conservatives turned around and spent more than they ever had. Quite the 'fiscally conservative' government, huh?
No, it isn't. It's pandering.
And yet we were far worse off than we could have been, precisely because our 'fiscally responsible' Conservative Party went on a spending spree, undoing what the previous Liberal government had accomplished, before the crisis hit. They could have acted like real conservatives and put us in a great position to take advantage of the situation, but instead they decided to act precisely like they said the Liberals had done.
And like Bush blamed Clinton, or as far back as Carter, without considering the number of Republican Presidents in between. That's the US; not us. Conservatives, especially neo-cons, like to blame liberals for the economic problems of the world when conservatives have proved themselves to be no better conservators of the public purse, and in many cases far worse, than the liberals that they decry.
Look at the current Conservatives. They're now no less about the "we know better than you" than are the Liberals. So much so that they don't want to tell us what the costs of what we are buying are, which resulted in the contempt of Parliament finding.
Do you know what I really blame the Conservatives for? For being hypocrites. It didn't take them more than 6 weeks, from the point that I cast my ballot, for them to break every promise they had made, that actually meant something to me. Those promises were largely about not being like the Liberals were, before them, when it came to politicking. I don't reward liars.
It's always interesting when someone has to start breaking apart my sentences, in order to try and rebut my points.
No, but being a leader who doesn't listen to the regional electorate, doesn't talk to the press (our proxy to politicians), and doesn't seem to trust his subordinates to speak certainly points at someone being a bad leader. When we toss in contempt of Parliament, it becomes a virtual certainty.
Actually I'm talking about the "Canada's Action Plan" commercials, which are patently commercials for the Conservative Party. That's millions of dollars that didn't need to be spent on telling us what a good job he's doing.
There was a time when the Rhino Party had to run multiple candidates in many ridings because they were, as they put it then, "In danger of winning in several ridings." The big three parties stood up and took notice, because Rhino votes were obvious protest votes. I would rather vote my displeasure than vote for a candidate I don't support.
We're talking Federal, not Provincial. The Federal Liberals were starting to pay down the debt. The Conservatives turned around and spent more than they ever had. Quite the 'fiscally conservative' government, huh?
No, it isn't. It's pandering.
And yet we were far worse off than we could have been, precisely because our 'fiscally responsible' Conservative Party went on a spending spree, undoing what the previous Liberal government had accomplished, before the crisis hit. They could have acted like real conservatives and put us in a great position to take advantage of the situation, but instead they decided to act precisely like they said the Liberals had done.
And like Bush blamed Clinton, or as far back as Carter, without considering the number of Republican Presidents in between. That's the US; not us. Conservatives, especially neo-cons, like to blame liberals for the economic problems of the world when conservatives have proved themselves to be no better conservators of the public purse, and in many cases far worse, than the liberals that they decry.
Look at the current Conservatives. They're now no less about the "we know better than you" than are the Liberals. So much so that they don't want to tell us what the costs of what we are buying are, which resulted in the contempt of Parliament finding.
Do you know what I really blame the Conservatives for? For being hypocrites. It didn't take them more than 6 weeks, from the point that I cast my ballot, for them to break every promise they had made, that actually meant something to me. Those promises were largely about not being like the Liberals were, before them, when it came to politicking. I don't reward liars.
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Trudeau is the best hope to decriminalize pot. That's not going to happen with the conservatives. IMO, the war on pot is a waste of money and making pot smokers criminals is wrong.
There's currently a conservative radio commercial, criticizing Trudeau, saying, " Just imagine having marijuana as easily accessible as cigarettes and alcohol."
Yeah, just imagine.
Trudeau is the best hope to decriminalize pot. That's not going to happen with the conservatives. IMO, the war on pot is a waste of money and making pot smokers criminals is wrong.
There's currently a conservative radio commercial, criticizing Trudeau, saying, " Just imagine having marijuana as easily accessible as cigarettes and alcohol."
Yeah, just imagine.
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The criminalization of marijuana use is one of those issues that are socially conservative, through long belief and tradition, rather than serving what I would call true politically/fiscally conservative ideals. Those who are interested, or who come to a knee jerk reaction that its use should continue to be unlawful, should pursue research on why it is illegal. Specific care should be given to why alcohol use is legal, while that of marijuana isn't, while paying particular attention to the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
Another such issue is the use of so called "needle exchanges." The money saved in preventing just 3 or 4 AIDS infections alone, with their attendant medical treatment costs, can pay for such a place while also creating an environment in which addicts can be gently directed toward treatment. Surely saving money is a good thing?
The criminalization of marijuana use is one of those issues that are socially conservative, through long belief and tradition, rather than serving what I would call true politically/fiscally conservative ideals. Those who are interested, or who come to a knee jerk reaction that its use should continue to be unlawful, should pursue research on why it is illegal. Specific care should be given to why alcohol use is legal, while that of marijuana isn't, while paying particular attention to the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
Another such issue is the use of so called "needle exchanges." The money saved in preventing just 3 or 4 AIDS infections alone, with their attendant medical treatment costs, can pay for such a place while also creating an environment in which addicts can be gently directed toward treatment. Surely saving money is a good thing?
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I crack up every time I hear that commercial. "oh, think of the children"...
I crack up every time I hear that commercial. "oh, think of the children"...
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I walked in on a friend at work today, a hard core conservative to the point he voted Reform on at least one occasion, and found he was writing an email to the Conservative Party of Canada that said they had lost his vote over that commercial. Something about their thinking he was stupid, or somesuch.
I walked in on a friend at work today, a hard core conservative to the point he voted Reform on at least one occasion, and found he was writing an email to the Conservative Party of Canada that said they had lost his vote over that commercial. Something about their thinking he was stupid, or somesuch.
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Everybody wants to drink, smoke pot, pop pills, do other street drugs, take the edge off with prescription drugs, reconfigure the brain with antidepressants and ADD medicine and over the counter like Nyquil. I think that's swell. Probably talking a couple billion$ and who knows how many metric tons consumed. Quarterly. And then we wonder why some are a little sketchy on a wet morning commute. Or zonked out in the p.m. Ya, this country's got a real strong backbone. We should do ok in the world economy going forward.
Everybody wants to drink, smoke pot, pop pills, do other street drugs, take the edge off with prescription drugs, reconfigure the brain with antidepressants and ADD medicine and over the counter like Nyquil. I think that's swell. Probably talking a couple billion$ and who knows how many metric tons consumed. Quarterly. And then we wonder why some are a little sketchy on a wet morning commute. Or zonked out in the p.m. Ya, this country's got a real strong backbone. We should do ok in the world economy going forward.
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I'd guess he is reffering to Martin registering his ships out of country to avoid taxes.
I'd guess he is reffering to Martin registering his ships out of country to avoid taxes.
Snobike Mike
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Pot meet kettle I guess then.....
Unless of course it's not sentence snipping but attempting to respond to a myriad of separate thoughts/ideas in an internet conversation which I think is what both of us are doing.
Anyways, the whole system is broken, but I certainly don't want to be living under turdo or mulchair whole we figure out how to fix the mess.
Pot meet kettle I guess then.....
Unless of course it's not sentence snipping but attempting to respond to a myriad of separate thoughts/ideas in an internet conversation which I think is what both of us are doing.
Anyways, the whole system is broken, but I certainly don't want to be living under turdo or mulchair whole we figure out how to fix the mess.
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You broke it up. I just answered each in turn.
The system isn't broken. It's the voters who are broken. They've forgotten who has the power in the system and have ceded it away.
You broke it up. I just answered each in turn.
The system isn't broken. It's the voters who are broken. They've forgotten who has the power in the system and have ceded it away.
Snobike Mike
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Sounds a lot like Wendy Kukier and the nutters at MADD........
Having said that, since all turdo seems to want to run on is weed, it has to make even the biggest pothead wonder no?
What if the cons and dippers all add legalizing lot to their platforms, how does turdo look then?
Sounds a lot like Wendy Kukier and the nutters at MADD........
Having said that, since all turdo seems to want to run on is weed, it has to make even the biggest pothead wonder no?
What if the cons and dippers all add legalizing lot to their platforms, how does turdo look then?
Snobike Mike
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Since the voters are part of the system the system is still voters.
And yes, the voters need to "take back the Powah!!"
To do so it might be wise to not let pot be the leading reason to vote in shiney pony....
Since the voters are part of the system the system is still voters.
And yes, the voters need to "take back the Powah!!"
To do so it might be wise to not let pot be the leading reason to vote in shiney pony....
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The voters employ the system. They are not the system. A driver can run a car into a tree, but that doesn't mean that he was part of the car.
It doesn't have to be, with all the reasons that the Conservatives and Harper are giving to not vote for them.
That's Cukier. I'm probably the only person on the board who has actually met her.
It's more like that's all that media or the Conservatives want you to know about him. The same sort of thing happened to John Tory, when he was stupid enough to bring up a non issue and got pasted for it.
The Conservatives would never do that, because they would lose their hidebound base. NDP have been playing it too smart, for the most part, to step in that mess.
The voters employ the system. They are not the system. A driver can run a car into a tree, but that doesn't mean that he was part of the car.
It doesn't have to be, with all the reasons that the Conservatives and Harper are giving to not vote for them.
That's Cukier. I'm probably the only person on the board who has actually met her.
It's more like that's all that media or the Conservatives want you to know about him. The same sort of thing happened to John Tory, when he was stupid enough to bring up a non issue and got pasted for it.
The Conservatives would never do that, because they would lose their hidebound base. NDP have been playing it too smart, for the most part, to step in that mess.
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No, and I have not heard her name mentioned with respect to MADD. She's a gun control advocate.
*EDIT* I do recall a news story that related to a MADD representative being charged with impaired operation a couple of years back, in the Kingston/Belleville/Trenton area, but can't find the story now.
No, and I have not heard her name mentioned with respect to MADD. She's a gun control advocate.
*EDIT* I do recall a news story that related to a MADD representative being charged with impaired operation a couple of years back, in the Kingston/Belleville/Trenton area, but can't find the story now.
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That's the one. I remember you posting it last year and it was some higher up. Not sure who though, it might've been a director. It was slowly hushed away by their PR department.
MADD = Psychos on a mission
That's the one. I remember you posting it last year and it was some higher up. Not sure who though, it might've been a director. It was slowly hushed away by their PR department.
MADD = Psychos on a mission
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http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...n-political-aspirations-at-queens-park-today/
Doug Ford will not be running as a conservative candidate in the upcoming provincial election because he is going to be he brother's mayoral election manager, and interestingly the Ford brothers will not be doing anything to help the conservative campaign.
so,
Hudac's conservatives tell Doug Ford he is not welcome as a candidate in the upcoming provincial election, and either
a) he was ticked off, so is refusing to help with the provincial campaign, or
b) he was also asked not to get involved in "helping" them campaign.
What do you think?
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...n-political-aspirations-at-queens-park-today/
Doug Ford will not be running as a conservative candidate in the upcoming provincial election because he is going to be he brother's mayoral election manager, and interestingly the Ford brothers will not be doing anything to help the conservative campaign.
so,
Hudac's conservatives tell Doug Ford he is not welcome as a candidate in the upcoming provincial election, and either
a) he was ticked off, so is refusing to help with the provincial campaign, or
b) he was also asked not to get involved in "helping" them campaign.
What do you think?
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I think that among the reasons that he's not running for Provincial office Dougie forgot to include the fact that he hadn't been invited to. That's got to have put his nose out of joint. Even with a cardboard cutout of a leader, the PCs are better off without him.
I think that among the reasons that he's not running for Provincial office Dougie forgot to include the fact that he hadn't been invited to. That's got to have put his nose out of joint. Even with a cardboard cutout of a leader, the PCs are better off without him.
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