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I completely understand the seating and sleeping side of things . And how they perform at anchor if thats your thing. My thing has always been , how does it perform , I can sleep on the floor. Wife needs to know it doesnt pitch and roll at anchor.

This is an excellent time of the year to sell a boat, sellers wants out from under winter storage and putting to bed costs, buyers are looking for a deal. If you list with a broker and find your own customer , you are still paying the broker , sell after the contract expires (usually a 45-60day window) and your still paying the broker. They write that in specifically for the wanks that tell the owner , let the contract run out , I buy and we split the savings . These days its 10-15% commision on the boat unless your trying to sell a 20K or under boat , then they usually have a flat rate of $2,500 or 3K . You can waste a lot of time with dreamers .
 
I can’t possibly imagine using a broker to sell a boat (or a car, or whatever) in the $150K and under range. I don’t know, maybe I just don’t like throwing my money away in commissions, maybe I’m more willing to do the legwork of rooting out time wasters and getting a vibe for those who aren’t, and doing all that legwork myself. I guess I must be decent at it as with all the cars, motorcycles, and other Powersport toys I’ve ever sold over the years, I’ve never really got to the point of extreme time wasters - I guess I have a knack of being able to suss out the tire kickers based on how the communication goes and not wasting much time on those people, while eventually finding the serious buyers.

But tact goes a long way no matter how someone comes across. As is the situation here with my sister, even the most well do to serious buyer may not come across “ideally” in initial communication. That doesn’t mean I’d immediately steer them into the ditch vs at least making an effort to suss things out further by phone vs some curt emails. Usually it’s once you get someone on the phone that you really get the vibe for seriousness - it’s the ones who don’t even want to talk on the phone who are often the problems based on my experience.
 
I’ve used a broker twice, usually since I can’t be bothered to screen the nitwits. I’ve sold a dozen others on my own. The two we brokered were federally registered not numbered so there’s another layer on the onion. Selling the 38 was just stupid , we get a 10k deposit from a guy in Goderich , cheque bounces , his family says that’s the third boat he tired to buy this year , they had seized his account due to dementia, yet he somehow had cheques . That’s why brokers …. I’m fine with paying a commission for actual legwork. A ton of boats listed with brokers are Dad died , boat gotta go , and divorce , it’s not actually an asset so it can go .
I’m a career salesman and I can’t deal with dock tards .


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Boat that showed up in our area recently. This is the guy that was stripping the old boat of any value before scrapping…and this appears to be the replacement.

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The whole yacht broker thing has been interesting. I don't know, I still don't get the "process" personally, putting the cart before the horse with paperwork and offers and such before even seeing the vessel, but I guess that's how it goes.

Regardless, a happy medium has been reached and there's a plan to go see the latest boat next Monday.

After spending time looking at 35-45 footers, now they're considering something smaller because some other stuff has changed, they may be moving to a place on the water and draft might become an issue on something bigger, and keeping a slip at a marina when you have your own dock wouldn't make much sense.

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House on the water and draft is an issue ? Build a bigger dock . Part two of putting a bigger boat on your own dock , those two days a year when it blows shingles off the cottage the boat needs to stay attached to the dock, and in turn the dock to the lake.

The broker process has evolved a lot in the last few years . To protect the broker from wasting days , the seller from having looky loos stumbling around the boat and to try and clean up the industry. In Ontario it’s a smarter guy that owns the brokerage , he employs guys that “like boats” as agents . Most are pretty useless beyond showing product. I tried to look at a boat last April , brokers says owner still has it shrink wrapped and doesn’t want to unwrap it to show. Well , ok then , best of luck with that .


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crankcall said:
House on the water and draft is an issue ? Build a bigger dock .
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Ever been on Scugog? There are spots where you could have a 150’ dock and still be in shallow water.

Either way, stern drives are now a must have to also alleviate potential shallow water issues, so that further limits size potential now. Plus, again, air draft clearance for the underpasses in Lindsay, so express cruisers only basically. The options list is getting shorter.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Ever been on Scugog? There are spots where you could have a 150’ dock and still be in shallow water.

Either way, stern drives are now a must have to also alleviate potential shallow water issues, so that further limits size potential now. Plus, again, air draft clearance for the underpasses in Lindsay, so express cruisers only basically. The options list is getting shorter.
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I went to high school in Port Perry. We used to joke that on Scugog the boats need a roll cage.
 
Like rice lake , if the waves are 2ft you’ll bottom out the boat . One thing I’ve figured out being at other folks cottages , If we ever own another one , the dock will be at the edge of a cliff , 10-12ft thanks . I hate weeds and I hate cleaning mud out of engines .


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crankcall said:
Like rice lake , if the waves are 2ft you’ll bottom out the boat . One thing I’ve figured out being at other folks cottages , If we ever own another one , the dock will be at the edge of a cliff , 10-12ft thanks . I hate weeds and I hate cleaning mud out of engines .


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Cliff under water often correlates to cliff above water. Not ideal for an aging owner.
 
crankcall said:
Like rice lake , if the waves are 2ft you’ll bottom out the boat . One thing I’ve figured out being at other folks cottages , If we ever own another one , the dock will be at the edge of a cliff , 10-12ft thanks . I hate weeds and I hate cleaning mud out of engines .


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Is the railroad still across it, just below the water?
 
nobbie48 said:
Is the railroad still across it, just below the water?
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Good times watching credit card captains play that lottery. Normally ends in tears but occasionally they survive russian roulette. Normal outcome is lower unit sheared off, a few get really unlucky and pull the transom off.

At one point, I wanted to see how shallow the cribs really were and intentionally drifted over in an aluminum boat. Had to get out and lift the boat off some submerged rocks. Crikey.
 
nobbie48 said:
Is the railroad still across it, just below the water?
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Yes. And people who dare shoot across that lake in anything aside from a jetski without care to the channel markers (or without bothering to look at their charts for the bigger boats) do so at their own peril. Stupidity is expensive sometimes, as it should be.

Anyhow, they have their current 35’er on Scugog and have for many years. It’s fine as long as you mind your charts, and the water bosses don’t get stupid and release too much water out of the lake in the spring.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Ever been on Scugog? There are spots where you could have a 150’ dock and still be in shallow water.

Either way, stern drives are now a must have to also alleviate potential shallow water issues, so that further limits size potential now. Plus, again, air draft clearance for the underpasses in Lindsay, so express cruisers only basically. The options list is getting shorter.
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The boats your friends are looking at are probably more trouble than they are worth if home base is in Scugog. A 32' I/O cruiser will draft 30" drives up, 40" drives down, which limits operation in most of the lake to the nav channel.
 
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