Boat Rentals

I’m getting the impression that half of these brokers are little more than boat hobbyists themselves, not actual serious business people who necessarily even understand half the stuff they’re selling. Or can be bothered to actually even do their job completely and effectively.

Heck, maybe I need to get into the business. I have actual people skills, am attentive to detail, a good communicator, and actually understand boats and all their systems.
 
PrivatePilot said:
I’m getting the impression that half of these brokers are little more than boat hobbyists themselves, not actual serious business people who necessarily even understand half the stuff they’re selling. Or can be bothered to actually even do their job completely and effectively.

Heck, maybe I need to get into the business. I have actual people skills, am attentive to detail, a good communicator, and actually understand boats and all their systems.
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Sounds like many RE agents. Throw out the shingle because why not. Occasionally win the lottery, invest minimal time/effort.
 
GreyGhost said:
Sounds like many RE agents. Throw out the shingle because why not. Occasionally win the lottery, invest minimal time/effort.
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At least real estate agents need actual formal education and certification, but from what I’m gathering with this experience having talked to 4 or 5 of them now, becoming a “yacht broker” for some people requires a little more than a pulse and a crayon?

Crayon optional.

Some may be eating the crayon if they have it.
 
You get both levels , lots of semi retired guys that like boats so they try selling , and professional agents that know the product . Just like real estate agents . At least when your looking at 40ft and under sail / power boats in the Ontario market your not getting the level of systems that require more than a passing knowledge of 'boat' .

I spent two weeks getting a lagoon 42 Catamaran ready to go back in the water after 2 years on shore in St Augustine . Freshwater maker needed unpickled, deck mounted gen set needed primed , 4 heads , 2 deep freezers , 2 fridges, radar, AIS , new plotter to go in , owner wanted to add SSB radio which meant new 60ft antenna and tuner , which was built into the backstay, 2 yanmar deisels to service. And the previous owner was german , so everything is labled , in German. Then in the last 2 days , lets integrate the auto pilot to interface with the wind instuments so the boat will follow wind angle on its own! I'm still friends with the owner , but I havent been back on the boat since we got her ready to go to Bahama.
 
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You could get one of those into your back yard as a granny flat cheaper than an addition.
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Somebody would complain as soon as they found out somebody was living in it.

For all the complaints about lack of housing and such in this province, anytime anyone looks at tiny housing/granny flats/RVs on big pieces of property like farms, ultimately there seems to be some stupid bylaw or something that squashes it. The farm where I used to ride horses looked at putting an RV on the property one time for family, but as soon as they called the municipality it became evident it was going to be a nightmare.

I heard there was some update about allowing secondary granny flats in people’s backyards however last I checked the requirements were still such that it was quite an expensive venture to build something that meets the requirements, and a lot of municipalities still make it effectively impossible with bylaws.

But putting a small trailer in huge backyard (self-contained, already meets some standards, water Hydro easy. sewer not that hard either with some savviness) and having someone live in, Nyet! But 2km away at the provincial park near me, it’s perfectly fine. 🙄
 
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nobbie48 said:
You could get one of those into your back yard as a granny flat cheaper than an addition.
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Plaque on the wall at a marina..

"A boat is a hole in the water, surrounded by wood into which one pours money"
 
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Someone, somewhere would complain, and my bet is there some municipal byelaw enforcement officer would find some sort of ticket they could issue and force its removal
 
PrivatePilot said:
Somebody would complain as soon as they found out somebody was living in it.

For all the complaints about lack of housing and such in this province, anytime anyone looks at tiny housing/granny flats/RVs on big pieces of property like farms, ultimately there seems to be some stupid bylaw or something that squashes it. The farm where I used to ride horses looked at putting an RV on the property one time for family, but as soon as they called the municipality it became evident it was going to be a nightmare.

I heard there was some update about allowing secondary granny flats in people’s backyards however last I checked the requirements were still such that it was quite an expensive venture to build something that meets the requirements, and a lot of municipalities still make it effectively impossible with bylaws.

But putting a small trailer in huge backyard (self-contained, already meets some standards, water Hydro easy. sewer not that hard either with some savviness) and having someone live in, Nyet! But 2km away at the provincial park near me, it’s perfectly fine. 🙄
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Carlyle Ontario 1990s: A farmer let someone park a RV on his farm and hook up to power, water and septic. Then came another, and another and another. My buddy moved in with his recreational trailer, not designed for winter or full time use. Then some more. Kids appeared. My buddy wasn't the only one that imbibed.

Then the farmer stopped paying the power bill. Trailer town was disbanded and the residents given priority to some newly built subsidized housing in Burlington, a stones throw from the art galley and waterfront.

Buddy got a sparkling clean, brand new unit. It looked like a dump within weeks.
 
I think a happy medium can be found where there are limits on the number of trailers/bunkies/whatever on land.

If I lived on a farm and wanted to put a trailer or two beside one of my barns for someone to live in, and they were properly connected to Hydro water and sewer, housing someone who might not be able to afford to live elsewhere, having stupid bylaws that prevent it “just because” as it currently stands is just stupid. Meanwhile, everyone continues to complain about the cost and availability of housing and the provincial government and municipalities are all like “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!”.
 
PrivatePilot said:
I think a happy medium can be found where there are limits on the number of trailers/bunkies/whatever on land.

If I lived on a farm and wanted to put a trailer or two beside one of my barns for someone to live in, and they were properly connected to Hydro water and sewer, housing someone who might not be able to afford to live elsewhere, having stupid bylaws that prevent it “just because” as it currently stands is just stupid. Meanwhile, everyone continues to complain about the cost and availability of housing and the provincial government and municipalities are all like “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!”.
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Tax misery:

If trailers are allowed the municipality is cheated of income while burdened by schools and services = Tax misery for them

If instead brick and mortar homes are built taxes are paid by the occupants = tax misery for the residents

Pick your misery.
 
So tax them. Even if they charge $1500/year per trailer/bunkie/granny flat/whatever, it’s still a win.
 
PrivatePilot said:
So tax them. Even if they charge $1500/year per trailer/bunkie/granny flat/whatever, it’s still a win.
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Apparently in Texas you can do what you want with a property due to there being no zoning bylaws. Communities that appear well kept often have HOAs, many run by over zealous nit pickers running around with micrometers measuring grass height. Not my thing.

If you had a million plus home and had spent another hundred thousand landscaping the back yard would you want one or two or three of these as backdrops?

Worse still, you did the work to sell your place at an attractive price and a visual piece of junk sinks your plans.

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So someone says we need rules. Since rules tend to be subjective, more rules are required to define subjective. We need committees to set the rules and the committees need to be governed so we turn that over to politicians. Civil servants must be hired to handle the paperwork and make decisions.

However civil servants don't like to make decisions. They prefer following rules. That way, nothing is their fault, they were just following the rules. Heard that before???

Enter the bleeding hearts saying the kids living there don't have the amenities of the other children so we need a study......
 
nobbie48 said:
Apparently in Texas you can do what you want with a property due to there being no zoning bylaws. Communities that appear well kept often have HOAs, many run by over zealous nit pickers running around with micrometers measuring grass height. Not my thing.

If you had a million plus home and had spent another hundred thousand landscaping the back yard would you want one or two or three of these as backdrops?

Worse still, you did the work to sell your place at an attractive price and a visual piece of junk sinks your plans.

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So someone says we need rules. Since rules tend to be subjective, more rules are required to define subjective. We need committees to set the rules and the committees need to be governed so we turn that over to politicians. Civil servants must be hired to handle the paperwork and make decisions.

However civil servants don't like to make decisions. They prefer following rules. That way, nothing is their fault, they were just following the rules. Heard that before???

Enter the bleeding hearts saying the kids living there don't have the amenities of the other children so we need a study......
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But it's all okay if they're in a tent on public property

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If you look at the disturbed water at the bow and stern you can see the bow and stern thrusters at work , the pilot can literally spin the boat in its own length. There is still a termendous amount of talent , but technology has made that job a lot easier to manage. The modern yacht thats "all in" on new tech is using a single joy stick and syncs with engine controls and thrusters , point the arrow and the boat goes there , side load from wind is factored in , and you get a 360d camera on 16" screen . The next problem is unless your engineer onboard is also a computer tech , good luck when the systems go down, your flying in a tech. But when your Lurssen 250ft'er charters for 1m a week , thats the least of your worries . Bill Gates 400ft boat launched last month , 5 year build , ordered pre divorce. Its for sale allegedly , price tag around 450M .
 
crankcall said:
If you look at the disturbed water at the bow and stern you can see the bow and stern thrusters at work , the pilot can literally spin the boat in its own length. There is still a termendous amount of talent , but technology has made that job a lot easier to manage. The modern yacht thats "all in" on new tech is using a single joy stick and syncs with engine controls and thrusters , point the arrow and the boat goes there , side load from wind is factored in , and you get a 360d camera on 16" screen . The next problem is unless your engineer onboard is also a computer tech , good luck when the systems go down, your flying in a tech. But when your Lurssen 250ft'er charters for 1m a week , thats the least of your worries . Bill Gates 400ft boat launched last month , 5 year build , ordered pre divorce. Its for sale allegedly , price tag around 450M .
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This is prevalent in a lot of industries nowadays. Our equipment used to be all hydraulics, with a handful of small pressure sensors and flow meters.

Any mechanic could fix the machine.

Now...unless you're an electrican engineer / PLC technician good luck w/ that. The data loggers have about 3-5k sensors and each one spits out raw data that needs someone to plot / make sense of it. Otherwise it's just jibberish.

Used to have more mechanics on the machine...now they're primarily electricians.
 
well , from an era where they would shut down an engine and restart it running in reverse, big boats have jumped miles. My now retired buddy used to get helicoptered out into the North Atlantic to fix a diesel engine , that happens almost never now. Instead the electronics blips and before you can get the boat back on line you take out a bridge . We watched a 50ft something carreen through the harbour in Barcelona when apparently the fly by wire controls from the fly bridge to the engine bay stopped talking . More systems , more fixing
 
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