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Why are hardcore Toronto bicyclists ******-bags?

If you can, tips would be appreciated.

Practice, practice, and more practice. On grass with flat pedals.

I used to be able to wheelie a road bike endlessly. Haven't bothered with it in years, so I'd be lucky with a few dozen yards now. If I invested the time, it would come back.

Then there's the "special" people that can wheelie naturally. 8 inch wide 2x4 ladder bridge over a gorge? No problem. I hate them.

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Can any of you guys wheelie on your bicycle? If you can, tips would be appreciated. I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong and I wanna learn it so badly

My gearing's 46/19 (63 gear inches). If I go 2 up to 46/21, that'd bring me to 57 gear inches...but then it'd be a little slow when commuting
Just practice. The key to keeping it going is popping it up high enough to begin with. The same principals apply as motorcycle wheelies, you gotta get to the balance point to be able to ride it for a while. If you're under the BP, you'll just end up pedaling like crazy til you run out of gear and have to put it down. Be mindful of the rear brake if your about to loop it over backwards.
 
I can't stand most road bikers. They are the most ignorant bunch of people who expect everyone to respect their right and move out their way. It's a common occurrence for a group of road bikers to ride 3 or 4 wide down lakeshore in oakville blocking the east or westbound traffic. My personal favorite is when they ride on the road even where there is a paved bike lane next to the sidewalk(lots of them in Oakville) specifically for them to use.
I find roadbiking to be the latest fitness circlejerk for guys with lots of money. They go out and buy the latest carbon pinarello and some spandex bib shorts and they're Lance Armstrong(when he still have 7 TdF titles).

http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/cyclists-driver-charged-over-crash-in-wellesley-1.1351424

I find the charges laid sort of strange,, but I don't know the entire story tho..
Also, I'd like to know a bit more about riding a breast... errr,, seriously abreast...

Three people are facing charges following a crash in Wellesley that injured four cyclists.
On June 19, a group of 15 to 20 cyclists were biking on Hessen Strasse Road near Kressler Road when they were passed by an SUV towing a trailer..
Following the pass, a number of cyclists crashed into each other.
Four cyclists were taken to hospital. All were later released.
The cyclists had been part of a Waterloo Cycling Club group biking the route to learn about road safety.
Waterloo Regional Police announced Wednesday that the driver of the SUV and two cyclists had been charged in connection with the incident.
The SUV driver, a 59-year-old Waterloo man, was charged with careless driving and failing to avoid a collision.
Two cyclists, a 44-year-old from Waterloo and a 36-year-old woman from Kitchener, were charged with careless driving and failure to move to the right side of the road when overtaken.
Both cyclists were also charged with riding abreast of another bicycle under a Wellesley Township bylaw.
 
As a very avid cyclist I personally can't stand those idiots that feel the need to ride 2-4 or more wide on a public road and then have the nuts to say all drivers are bad. If the rules are followed properly and common sense is applied then there wouldn't be a problem. That said, especially in places like Toronto the streets are filled with more than enough jackasses on bikes or in cars. I love the "I'd pass him, park and then thump his ***" attitude and I've begged more than one moron to get out of his car and kick my spandex wearing ***. None yet have even flinched. Bicycles aren't allowed on sidewalks for a reason and not all motorists are as entitled as they think.
 
What people need to understand is your rights do not trump the combination of common sense, physics, and biology (in that exact order!). Many of the militant cyclists (even militant motorcyclists) fail to understand this, for whatever reason.
 
What people need to understand is your rights do not trump the combination of common sense, physics, and biology (in that exact order!). Many of the militant cyclists (even militant motorcyclists) fail to understand this, for whatever reason.


+1, not a great trade off to win what you perceive as the moral victory when you end up splattered acorss the tarmac
 
I knocked a guy off his bke on the boardwalk in Hamilton 2 weekends ago. Riding like ***. He hit the ground pretty hard... and didn't have anything to say afterwards.
 
Got stuck behind some "hardcore" cyclists in Vancouver the other day when they were all riding side by side on the road so I guess it's not just Toronto. It was some nice looking ladies, though, so I was tempted to tell them they had nice butts as retribution but decided against it.
 
I dunno, I just don't agree with this article...

Accident sparks call for changes to cycling laws, bylaws

WATERLOO REGION — A pileup of cyclists that injured some riders after they were passed by an SUV in Wellesley Township highlights the need for changes to local and provincial laws, says the head of a provincial cycling advocacy organization.
Eleanor McMahon, of The Share the Road Coalition, said the township needs to scrap its bylaw that bans cyclists from riding side-by-side and the province needs to pass a law that keeps drivers at least one metre away from cyclists.

Here is where I say... all vehicles that are impeding traffic should pull to the side.. and not be beside another slow moving vehicle.. and the cyclist should stay 1 m away from CAR lanes.
or within a marked bicycle lane , not side by side ,,, BESIDE a marked bicycle lane.. in the CAR lane!

McMahon was reacting to the careless driving charge against a 59-year-old Waterloo man who was behind the wheel of an SUV pulling a horse trailer on Hessen Strasse south of Heidelberg on June 19.
As the SUV passed a group of 15 to 20 cyclists, some of the riders fell off their bikes and four were taken to hospital with minor injuries. The driver is also charged with failing to avoid a collision with a bicycle.

The SUV driver didn't HIT the cyclists.. one of them lost their balance and fell into the others causing the domino effect ,,, because they ride side by side.... not staggered,, or single file... but...<sarcasm> we need to change the way everyone else uses the road...</sarcasm>

Two cyclists are also charged — a 44-year-old from Waterloo and a 36-year-old from Kitchener. They are charged with failing to move to the right when overtaken, and riding side-by-side.

Yippeee!

McMahon said Wellesley Township should follow the lead of the City of Toronto, which recently scrapped its bylaw that bans side-by-side riding.
"Local ordinances that prohibit riding two abreast are a little bit misguided," McMahon said.
Many municipalities, including Kitchener, have bylaws that ban side-by-side riding. Cyclists say it increases their safety because it makes them more visible to cars, Buuull S.hit ! and riding abreast makes it easier for vehicles to pass, not harder. really? explain,,,!?
It is more dangerous to pass a line of 20 cyclists riding in single file rather than 20 cyclists riding side-by-side in two lines of 10, McMahon says. "It is better to have a row of 10 that motorists can pass and get around provided they are clear to pass and it is safe to pass, than a row of 20 cyclists."
Ah... why not pass a law that NO MORE THAN 4 cyclists can travel together..

When a driver approaches a group of cyclists from behind, the best option is to be patient and wait for a safe place to pass, McMahon said.

LMAO! ,,, yah,, change human nature! by putting a 400 lb bike in the way of a 4000 lb car with an enraged driver... hahahah... then say,, be patient,, calm down,,RELAX MAN! .. wait for a safe place to pass

"Their responsibility is much greater because the vehicle they are driving could kill someone. We need respect on both sides here. We need motorists to be patient, especially when they are towing a trailer."
The Share the Road Coalition partnered with the New Democratic Party to draft a private member's bill for a one-metre passing law in Ontario. That bill was introduced in the legislature, received second reading, but died when the last Ontario election was called.
"We are hoping to bring that legislation back to legislature in the fall," McMahon said.
An Ontario coroner's report on cycling fatalities recommended a one-metre-passing law. The Share the Road Coalition has no intention of dropping the issue.
"Motorists need to understand their burden of responsibility," McMahon said. "You cannot pull out to pass, even though you are impatient and frustrated, if you don't have enough room."
cyclist need to understand there is laws regarding obstructing traffic for a reason..

The scenic rural roads in Waterloo Region are increasingly popular with cyclists. On June 19, the Waterloo Region Cycling Club was leading a novice ride when the accident occurred.
The club has used these roads for years to train and produce elite riders.
Maybe the club should get their own training facilities,,,

Instead of celebrating these achievements, the township passed a bylaw that calls for riding in single file, said Peter Dedes, a club member, former provincial champion and former professional rider.

Good for the Township ! and they should pass more! as it is clearly unsafe to have cyclists so close to cars... and until bike paths are funded and placed.. then cyclists should NOT be allowed on the roads,, no matter how beautiful they are.. [the roads that is]

The combination of rolling hills, quaint villages and beautiful countryside makes for great training rides, Dedes said, and he grew up training on those roads.
"Those roads have become a draw for tri-athletes, but also recreational riders who are just looking to get out in the country," Dedes said. "These roads are spectacular."
As the number of cyclists has steadily increased on the rural roads, the resentment increased among people living in the townships.
"There never used to be signs telling cyclists to ride in single file on any of those roads," Dedes said.

City riders just need to get out in the country... after the city has spent millions building bike paths.. and bike lanes, and education, and marketing... etc...
lets park our cars on their paths and make a fuss ... that it is safer because no cyclists use the paved paths...

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I say raise taxes and build a bike lane next to every single road in the province, and any new roads. More people should be riding bikes and more ******* ******** need to relax and realize those stupid idiot bikers are causing them to be a couple minutes later and it's not the end of the world.

******* idiots.
 
^^ best reply ever. Very true. There's sadly too many entitled people on the road in various forms. It's pathetic


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^ I wish that were actually a plausible idea here. I feel like it's just too late to add something like this. The other cities that have stuff like this have planned it well in advance. We wouldn't even have the space to spare to make proper bike lanes.

I think Toronto's a really well-rounded city, but the lack of bike lanes and the ttc are some of its biggest cons. Bike lanes in the Netherlands/Holland are the best example of how things should be but those cities were well-planned for.

Also:
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Why was the guy charged if he didn't actually hit any cyclists? I know people that have gotte into single vehicle accidents avoiding a more major one with another vehicle and they ccouldn't have the other driver charged or make an insurance claim against them because they didn't actually collide. Wasn't there discussion on here when a motorcyclist wiped out trying to avoid a car and was screwed because he didn't actually hit the car and the insurance companytold him he needs to aactuallyhit the other vvehicle to make a claim against them?

How'd they catch the driver of the truck? If I saw a bunch of cyclists wipe out behind me I'd probably keep going if I didn't think I caused it. If I actually noticed.
 
There's sadly too many entitled people on the road in various forms. It's pathetic

And they seem to like to type in red.
 
^ I wish that were actually a plausible idea here. I feel like it's just too late to add something like this. The other cities that have stuff like this have planned it well in advance. We wouldn't even have the space to spare to make proper bike lanes.

I think Toronto's a really well-rounded city, but the lack of bike lanes and the ttc are some of its biggest cons. Bike lanes in the Netherlands/Holland are the best example of how things should be but those cities were well-planned for.

Also:
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Dutch cities were designed centuries before the bicycle was even invented! There's no reason Toronto couldn't be a great cycling city, other than the lack of popular support.
 
I don't see why there is animosity between cyclists and drivers in Toronto. When I cycle, I use hand signals and keep to the right. When I drive, I always check my mirror for cyclists when making right turns. Respect is mutual but many cyclists just behave like idiots.
 
My guess is the car drivers pay the taxes via fuel yet the roads are not the best and along comes another group that uses the roads without having to pay for anything therefore people get ticked off.

I am always amazed how one group has to go through formal testing and having to pay for the privilege to use the roadways yet another group can just hop on the road and ride a bicycle with no knowledge of traffic rules muchless insurance to cover any damage they cause.
 
My guess is the car drivers pay the taxes via fuel yet the roads are not the best and along comes another group that uses the roads without having to pay for anything therefore people get ticked off.

You're right, it's not like i don't have a truck and a motorcycle that I buy gas for. Does fuel tax go towards trails and MX parks for those guys that buy it for their dirt bikes? Just because someone is riding a bicycle doesn't mean they don't have a automobile.
 

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