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Why are hardcore Toronto bicyclists ******-bags?

Why is the vehicle/bicycle on the road not mandated to have proper head lights and tail lights.

If you insist on fishing, use the right lure.

HTA 62(17) - Lights
a bike must have a white front light and a red rear light or reflector if you ride between 1/2 hour before sunset and 1/2 hour after sunrise and white reflective tape on the front forks and red reflective tape on rear forks.
Set fine: $20.00
 
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If you insist on fishing, use the right lure.

HTA 62(17) - Lights
a bike must have a white front light and a red rear light or reflector if you ride between 1/2 hour before sunset and 1/2 hour after sunrise and white reflective tape on the front forks and red reflective tape on rear forks.
Set fine: $20.00

thanks for this
I see lots of bicycles riding around with no lighting or reflective tape.
what is the fine for a motorcycle with no working rear or headlight?
 
Hey, like I said. I can care less but I am with Raginduck on the yahoos that zip around little kids and in parks with lots of people traffic. The car will always win the fight.
Why is the vehicle/bicycle on the road not mandated to have proper head lights and tail lights.
It's pitch black and they are wearing black riding around. I have seen a few times downtown driver missing a bike my a few inches or braking at the last moment because the Ninja bikes just popped up.

All I am saying is if you are using the road then you need to pass a basic written test like the rest of us and ensure your bicycle is subjected to the same standards as the other vehicles on the road. It makes it safer for all involved.

There's some merit to that idea, but it discounts the value to all of us of getting more people on bikes. It produces less healthcare demands, less infrastructure demands, less pollution, and less dependency on oil. The tradeoff is that drivers have to share the road, which can be a nuisance especially when cyclists are just taking up space when joyriding on weekends rather than removing a car from the gridlock during the commute.

Keep in mind, this is not entirely cyclist's fault. Roads were always designed almost exclusively for cars and trucks, and sidewalks were designed almost exclusively for pedestrians. The law has tried to patch that gap by splitting bikes into each of these two pavement types according to wheel diameter. It's a very unsatisfactory means of accommodating cyclists, and luckily most people ignore these laws. Unfortunately, they often don't substitute their own common sense in place of the law. This pretty much explains all these aggravating encounters between driver, cyclists, and pedestrians.

So in principle sure, every road user could be required to pass a written test to be licensed for the road, but given the disincentive it would bring to cycling, would that offer a net benefit versus say, road users just making an effort to share the road? I'm not sure. And where do we draw the line as to who can use the roads with a license? E-bikers? Inline skaters? Segway riders? Skateboarders? Wheelchair users? Joggers? None of those modes of transport are particularly lethal so licensing the vehicles like cars are licensed clearly wouldn't serve any purpose.

What about that sidewalk. Who should and shouldn't use it?

There's a lot to consider just on the infrastructure side and on the vehicle side with transportation technology evolving very rapidly (Honda U3-X, Lit C-1, Piaggio MP3, Monotracer, Velomobiles, Carver One, self-driving cars, homebuilt gas bicycles...) It would be too easy to strictly regulate everything thereby falling into the same trap that left bicycles in the lurch over the past decades by ignoring these novel modes of transportation and thereby stifling innovation and progress.

So maybe cyclists should be licensed, but even in the best case scenario is that going to have any impact on all that's happening out there now?
 
All bicycles should be sold with lights and bells, given that they are a legal requirement (and a very good idea to have). Pamphlets should also come with all new bikes, outlining local and provincial laws, proper road etiquette, and all potential penalties for infractions.

A large part of the problem is just misinformed cyclists (and drivers just the same), resulting in both parties feeling over-entitled.
 
Some places do sell them with bells that I've seen. I know in Calgary if you're riding the path and get caught without one it's a fine right there on the spot. Anyone riding at night without lights is a fool. I know the posers don't like it but I strap them on my mega dollar road bike just to be seen. Don't care who thinks what of it.


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Any fixie riders here? Google "monday night rehab" and come out for a ride. For what it's worth, I'd invite road bikes as well but it isn't my ride. I also don't know why they make the distinction since more than half of the people in the group are serious road bike riders. But come out if you can!

Yes, yes, get your obligatory hipster-calling out of the way :p
 
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No it's not, take the hint.

Any fixie riders here? Google "monday night rehab" and come out for a ride. For what it's worth, I'd invite road bikes as well but it isn't my ride. I also don't know why they make the distinction since more than half of the people in the group are serious road bike riders. But come out if you can!

Yes, yes, get your obligatory hipster-calling out of the way :p

Is there gonna be a protest after? Will someone be on hand to do dreadlocks? Can I buy hemp sandals and bracelets? Can I come if I don't have an iPhone and iPod?
 
No it's not, take the hint.

He knows it's not broken. He want's me to post the fine for no tail lights on a bike so he can complain about the disparity. Like I told him before, if he insists on fishing, use the right lure. Trolling ain't what it use to be.


Curious to find out who's hand is in the sock, though.
 
No it's not, take the hint.

Is there gonna be a protest after? Will someone be on hand to do dreadlocks? Can I buy hemp sandals and bracelets? Can I come if I don't have an iPhone and iPod?

He knows it's not broken. He want's me to post the fine for no tail lights on a bike so he can complain about the disparity. Like I told him before, if he insists on fishing, use the right lure. Trolling ain't what it use to be.


Curious to find out who's hand is in the sock, though.

Thanks for verifying the link Macs.
@Full I don't want you to post anything you don't want to.
I have said numerous times that I can care less about this because the car will always win the battle with the bike.
I have yet to see a Police Officer writing a ticket for bicycles without lights. I thought people under 18 or 16 had to wear helmets and yet once again I never see this being enforced.
 

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