Why Android is better than iPhone.

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A couple of years ago, my wife fiancée Tina had a terrible experience dealing with a Verizon rep over the phone. The whole conversation happened on speakerphone and I could hear every part of it. I specifically remember the rep insinuating Tina was a liar and that she didn’t know what she was talking about. That was the end of her with Verizon. We canceled her plan that day and got her on AT&T.

Today, I went with Penny, my mother in law, to Verizon so she can upgrade her 2 year old dumbphone for a brand new and shiny iPhone 4S. I didn’t even try to talk Penny out of using Verizon because her whole family has been using them forever, she’s got a family plan covering 5 phones/users. Although I didn’t bother talking to her about considering switching to AT&T, I couldn’t help telling her that I think Verizon sucks. Big time…
We walked in the store knowing exactly what she was going to buy: a 16GB white iPhone 4S. There was no doubt in her mind that it was what she wanted, which technically should have made the sales guy’s job easier.
We checked in with the friendly guy at the door. He informed us we’d have to wait for a few minutes, which was fine since we had nothing else to do. During that time, I checked out a few gigantic Android devices that I wouldn’t want my worst enemy to use, but that’s another story.

Ten or fifteen minutes later, a Verizon sales guy named Edward came over to us, confirmed with Penny that she was indeed Penny, and asked her what she was looking for. The conversation went something like that (note that I can’t emphasize how rude the rep sounded):

Penny: I want to buy a white iPhone 4S, 16GB.
Rep: Do you already own an iPad or a Mac at home?
Penny: Yes, I have an iPad and an iMac.
Rep: Ok, I actually recommend you check out a few Android devices. They are much better phones with faster data speeds and bigger screens.
Penny: But I just want an iPhone.
Rep: Yes but you should definitely check out these phones over there. If you already have an iPad, you want to try something new, something different, because an iPhone is kinda boring.
Me: An iPhone is what?
Rep: An iPhone is boring!
Penny: No, I want an iPhone.
Rep, looking terribly bummed out: Ok, follow me to the counter.No hello, no please, no smile, no personality, no care for the customer. Zero. None!

At this point, if I had been in Penny’s shoes, I would have just left the store, or asked to talk to a Manager because the level of customer service was as good as what you’d expect from a prison guard. Penny looked at me as I did a scary face trying to convey that this guy was a total ******, and I told her we could leave if she didn’t feel comfortable. Again, I would have just left but that’s me, and I know I can be hard to please.

We walked to the counter and waited for Edward. He showed up a minute or 2 later with an iPhone box in his hand. Still extremely unfriendly and obviously disappointed that we even considered doing business with him today, he asked for a few signatures, barely looking at us, picking up and throwing his pen every few seconds on the counter as if we were really pissing him off.
In an incredible effort, he informed us there was a $30 (or around that price) upgrade fee, then he gave us the total amount without explaining us that when you buy an iPhone, you pay taxes on the full price of the phone ($650) and not just on the subsidized price you pay in store ($200).
This brought some confusion and once again, we had to extract the information out of him. It looked painful.
He put the iPhone box in a bag, handed Penny her iPhone, thanked us and said goodbye. These last 5 seconds must have taken a huge toll on him as he clearly wasn’t accustomed to show any kind of emotion, or even respect for his customers.

It’s hard to translate into words how careless this Verizon employee was. He clearly didn’t give a **** (excuse my French). We were annoying him and wasting his time, and you could tell.
I understand there are always a few black sheeps in large corporations like Verizon, and your experience will greatly vary from one store to another, but this was just unacceptable.
Penny said she will call Verizon customer service and complain. I said I will just write an angry post because that’s the only thing I can do.

One thing is sure after today. I will never switch to Verizon, no matter how great their LTE coverage is supposed to be or how attractive their “un-unlimited unlimited data plan” looks like. I’d rather be doomed to use Edge for the rest of my life than give a dollar to these people.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/07/30/verizon-rep-just-reminded-me-why-ill-never-use-verizon/
 
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Kudos to him for trying to sell them Android :lmao:

wow that rep was horrible.

"I've done my research, i know what i want, give it to me" its that simple.

I guess he was getting more incentive to sell android than iphone
 
Sounds like Rogers.

I was in one of their stores a few years ago and the reps were bragging to each other how many people they sold an Android phone to. It was this one particular model that was the flavour of the month at that time, can't remember what. But the point is that they tried to sell everyone the same phone, like a one-size-fits-all solution regardless of the customer's needs. Just like all the fanbois in this thread preach with every single post, except the Rogers reps are smart enough to get commission.
 
It costs more for the telco's to subsidize the sale of an iPhone compared to an Android phone. That is why they're always pushing everything but the iPhone. Notice you almost never see telco ads for the iPhone, mostly Android or Blackberry.

The sales guy was probably just feeling pressure from his manager because he's not meeting his Android quota
 
It has nothing to do with Android or iphone. It's just that all sales people are ********** that don't give a **** about the customer and just want to 'sell'

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A couple of years ago, my wife fiancée Tina had a terrible experience dealing with a Verizon rep over the phone. The whole conversation happened on speakerphone and I could hear every part of it. I specifically remember the rep insinuating Tina was a liar and that she didn’t know what she was talking about. That was the end of her with Verizon. We canceled her plan that day and got her on AT&T.

Today, I went with Penny, my mother in law, to Verizon so she can upgrade her 2 year old dumbphone for a brand new and shiny iPhone 4S. I didn’t even try to talk Penny out of using Verizon because her whole family has been using them forever, she’s got a family plan covering 5 phones/users. Although I didn’t bother talking to her about considering switching to AT&T, I couldn’t help telling her that I think Verizon sucks. Big time…
We walked in the store knowing exactly what she was going to buy: a 16GB white iPhone 4S. There was no doubt in her mind that it was what she wanted, which technically should have made the sales guy’s job easier.
We checked in with the friendly guy at the door. He informed us we’d have to wait for a few minutes, which was fine since we had nothing else to do. During that time, I checked out a few gigantic Android devices that I wouldn’t want my worst enemy to use, but that’s another story.

Ten or fifteen minutes later, a Verizon sales guy named Edward came over to us, confirmed with Penny that she was indeed Penny, and asked her what she was looking for. The conversation went something like that (note that I can’t emphasize how rude the rep sounded):

Penny: I want to buy a white iPhone 4S, 16GB.
Rep: Do you already own an iPad or a Mac at home?
Penny: Yes, I have an iPad and an iMac.
Rep: Ok, I actually recommend you check out a few Android devices. They are much better phones with faster data speeds and bigger screens.
Penny: But I just want an iPhone.
Rep: Yes but you should definitely check out these phones over there. If you already have an iPad, you want to try something new, something different, because an iPhone is kinda boring.
Me: An iPhone is what?
Rep: An iPhone is boring!
Penny: No, I want an iPhone.
Rep, looking terribly bummed out: Ok, follow me to the counter.No hello, no please, no smile, no personality, no care for the customer. Zero. None!

At this point, if I had been in Penny’s shoes, I would have just left the store, or asked to talk to a Manager because the level of customer service was as good as what you’d expect from a prison guard. Penny looked at me as I did a scary face trying to convey that this guy was a total ******, and I told her we could leave if she didn’t feel comfortable. Again, I would have just left but that’s me, and I know I can be hard to please.

We walked to the counter and waited for Edward. He showed up a minute or 2 later with an iPhone box in his hand. Still extremely unfriendly and obviously disappointed that we even considered doing business with him today, he asked for a few signatures, barely looking at us, picking up and throwing his pen every few seconds on the counter as if we were really pissing him off.
In an incredible effort, he informed us there was a $30 (or around that price) upgrade fee, then he gave us the total amount without explaining us that when you buy an iPhone, you pay taxes on the full price of the phone ($650) and not just on the subsidized price you pay in store ($200).
This brought some confusion and once again, we had to extract the information out of him. It looked painful.
He put the iPhone box in a bag, handed Penny her iPhone, thanked us and said goodbye. These last 5 seconds must have taken a huge toll on him as he clearly wasn’t accustomed to show any kind of emotion, or even respect for his customers.

It’s hard to translate into words how careless this Verizon employee was. He clearly didn’t give a **** (excuse my French). We were annoying him and wasting his time, and you could tell.
I understand there are always a few black sheeps in large corporations like Verizon, and your experience will greatly vary from one store to another, but this was just unacceptable.
Penny said she will call Verizon customer service and complain. I said I will just write an angry post because that’s the only thing I can do.

One thing is sure after today. I will never switch to Verizon, no matter how great their LTE coverage is supposed to be or how attractive their “un-unlimited unlimited data plan” looks like. I’d rather be doomed to use Edge for the rest of my life than give a dollar to these people.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/07/30/verizon-rep-just-reminded-me-why-ill-never-use-verizon/
 
grab a read.
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A couple of years ago, my wife fiancée Tina had a terrible experience dealing with a Verizon rep over the phone. The whole conversation happened on speakerphone and I could hear every part of it. I specifically remember the rep insinuating Tina was a liar and that she didn’t know what she was talking about. That was the end of her with Verizon. We canceled her plan that day and got her on AT&T.

Today, I went with Penny, my mother in law, to Verizon so she can upgrade her 2 year old dumbphone for a brand new and shiny iPhone 4S. I didn’t even try to talk Penny out of using Verizon because her whole family has been using them forever, she’s got a family plan covering 5 phones/users. Although I didn’t bother talking to her about considering switching to AT&T, I couldn’t help telling her that I think Verizon sucks. Big time…
We walked in the store knowing exactly what she was going to buy: a 16GB white iPhone 4S. There was no doubt in her mind that it was what she wanted, which technically should have made the sales guy’s job easier.
We checked in with the friendly guy at the door. He informed us we’d have to wait for a few minutes, which was fine since we had nothing else to do. During that time, I checked out a few gigantic Android devices that I wouldn’t want my worst enemy to use, but that’s another story.

Ten or fifteen minutes later, a Verizon sales guy named Edward came over to us, confirmed with Penny that she was indeed Penny, and asked her what she was looking for. The conversation went something like that (note that I can’t emphasize how rude the rep sounded):

Penny: I want to buy a white iPhone 4S, 16GB.
Rep: Do you already own an iPad or a Mac at home?
Penny: Yes, I have an iPad and an iMac.
Rep: Ok, I actually recommend you check out a few Android devices. They are much better phones with faster data speeds and bigger screens.
Penny: But I just want an iPhone.
Rep: Yes but you should definitely check out these phones over there. If you already have an iPad, you want to try something new, something different, because an iPhone is kinda boring.
Me: An iPhone is what?
Rep: An iPhone is boring!
Penny: No, I want an iPhone.
Rep, looking terribly bummed out: Ok, follow me to the counter.No hello, no please, no smile, no personality, no care for the customer. Zero. None!

At this point, if I had been in Penny’s shoes, I would have just left the store, or asked to talk to a Manager because the level of customer service was as good as what you’d expect from a prison guard. Penny looked at me as I did a scary face trying to convey that this guy was a total ******, and I told her we could leave if she didn’t feel comfortable. Again, I would have just left but that’s me, and I know I can be hard to please.

We walked to the counter and waited for Edward. He showed up a minute or 2 later with an iPhone box in his hand. Still extremely unfriendly and obviously disappointed that we even considered doing business with him today, he asked for a few signatures, barely looking at us, picking up and throwing his pen every few seconds on the counter as if we were really pissing him off.
In an incredible effort, he informed us there was a $30 (or around that price) upgrade fee, then he gave us the total amount without explaining us that when you buy an iPhone, you pay taxes on the full price of the phone ($650) and not just on the subsidized price you pay in store ($200).
This brought some confusion and once again, we had to extract the information out of him. It looked painful.
He put the iPhone box in a bag, handed Penny her iPhone, thanked us and said goodbye. These last 5 seconds must have taken a huge toll on him as he clearly wasn’t accustomed to show any kind of emotion, or even respect for his customers.

It’s hard to translate into words how careless this Verizon employee was. He clearly didn’t give a **** (excuse my French). We were annoying him and wasting his time, and you could tell.
I understand there are always a few black sheeps in large corporations like Verizon, and your experience will greatly vary from one store to another, but this was just unacceptable.
Penny said she will call Verizon customer service and complain. I said I will just write an angry post because that’s the only thing I can do.

One thing is sure after today. I will never switch to Verizon, no matter how great their LTE coverage is supposed to be or how attractive their “un-unlimited unlimited data plan” looks like. I’d rather be doomed to use Edge for the rest of my life than give a dollar to these people.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/07/30/verizon-rep-just-reminded-me-why-ill-never-use-verizon/

Sounds like he was giving good phone advice, but if she wantedd that phone she should have gotten it no question.

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I decided to switch back to rogers. I got the Galaxy S3. This was yesterday, today I returned the phone and cancelled the contract. Apparently there's a software glitch with the S3. The internet will disconnect, I got errors, data network unavailable, and service outage please try again later. I called Rogers and was told Samsung is working on a software fix for the issue, all I can do for now is, remove the battery for 20-30 secs when it happens, well it happened 3 times since last night. The phone itself is amazing, but this glitch is unacceptable, why would these idiots keep selling the phones knowing there is this issue.

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I decided to switch back to rogers. I got the Galaxy S3. This was yesterday, today I returned the phone and cancelled the contract. Apparently there's a software glitch with the S3. The internet will disconnect, I got errors, data network unavailable, and service outage please try again later. I called Rogers and was told Samsung is working on a software fix for the issue, all I can do for now is, remove the battery for 20-30 secs when it happens, well it happened 3 times since last night. The phone itself is amazing, but this glitch is unacceptable, why would these idiots keep selling the phones knowing there is this issue.

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Rogers isn't exactly the most scrupulous company. If people still buy the phone (and lots are), they have zero incentive to pull it.

Unfortunately this is one of the biggest issues that the Android eco system has to sort out. I've mentioned it many times before, but the way Android updates get to consumers is terrible. Quick rundown; Google releases base OS, hardware manu. modifies OS, telco further screws with the OS, update gets released to customers. For something like this, who screwed up the OS? Is this a Rogers specific problem, or are other S3 users having the same problem? I did a quick google search and couldn't find other complaints for this issue so I'm going to assume it's a Rogers firmware problem.
 
I decided to switch back to rogers. I got the Galaxy S3. This was yesterday, today I returned the phone and cancelled the contract. Apparently there's a software glitch with the S3. The internet will disconnect, I got errors, data network unavailable, and service outage please try again later. I called Rogers and was told Samsung is working on a software fix for the issue, all I can do for now is, remove the battery for 20-30 secs when it happens, well it happened 3 times since last night. The phone itself is amazing, but this glitch is unacceptable, why would these idiots keep selling the phones knowing there is this issue.

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That's Samsung for ya. Galaxy phones have been riddled with problems for a long time... I wouldn't hold my breath for a quick patch.
 
That's Samsung for ya. Galaxy phones have been riddled with problems for a long time... I wouldn't hold my breath for a quick patch.

Don't know if you are aware of this but Dave "effin" Beckam uses the Samsung S3.... 'nough said.
 
That's Samsung for ya. Galaxy phones have been riddled with problems for a long time... I wouldn't hold my breath for a quick patch.
I wasn't going to hold my breath, the guy couldn't even give me an estimate of when the fix would be released. It was disappointing for sure. My gf, and some buddies have the S2 and it's good. I could have given back the S3 for the S2, it was a lot cheaper, but I didn't like the fact Rogers knew about it and all they could offer was remove the battery every time it happens. No thanks. I will stay with my unlimited talk, text, and data from wind, on my Nexus S running Jelly Bean, not so bad:)


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I wasn't going to hold my breath, the guy couldn't even give me an estimate of when the fix would be released. It was disappointing for sure. My gf, and some buddies have the S2 and it's good. I could have given back the S3 for the S2, it was a lot cheaper, but I didn't like the fact Rogers knew about it and all they could offer was remove the battery every time it happens. No thanks. I will stay with my unlimited talk, text, and data from wind, on my Nexus S running Jelly Bean, not so bad:)


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Meh, Jelly Bean > S3 for now ahah
 
Thinking about getting a new smartphone. Currently have the HTC sensation, but I use phone for business so the usage is high and I need a durable phone. Any android suggestions that are out now (wind network only plz) or will be out later in the year that are worth looking at? Don't care about iphone so don't suggest.
 
Wind only has the Galaxy Nexus and S3 that i can recommend.

In that order (cause nexus gets updates faster)
 
Thinking about getting a new smartphone. Currently have the HTC sensation, but I use phone for business so the usage is high and I need a durable phone. Any android suggestions that are out now (wind network only plz) or will be out later in the year that are worth looking at? Don't care about iphone so don't suggest.

Go for the Nexus, the S3 is awesome but still has issues, seems the screen likes to change from bright to dark for no reason, the Swype keyboard doesn't seem to be to reliable. I use the real Swype on my Nexus S, and it works flawless. The Nexus is a good reliable phone.

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Had my S3 for about a month now. Love it but a few minor problems.

1) Screen does dim from bright to dark randomly (I have to turn off auto brightness)
2) I get a few random application crashes, even stock Android ones (I replaced most stock apps)
3) When I take pictures and upload them they come out sideways (I have to rotate in app)
4) Screen automatically dims when opening browser (I use chrome now)
 
Had my S3 for about a month now. Love it but a few minor problems.

1) Screen does dim from bright to dark randomly (I have to turn off auto brightness)
2) I get a few random application crashes, even stock Android ones (I replaced most stock apps)
3) When I take pictures and upload them they come out sideways (I have to rotate in app)
4) Screen automatically dims when opening browser (I use chrome now)
What carrier are you with?



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