Why Android is better than iPhone.
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iridebikes
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Its such a wildly runaway success that even little kids want it. Apple is yet again the innovator in new product development, and they're so good at it that they manage to create entire markets. Impressive company with stellar products.
Nuff said, indeed.
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Android is more open to do what you would like to do with the phone. This is good if you like watching movies, playing music, and copying any god damn thing you can think of onto your phone. Yes this includes porn, and watching streaming porn if that's what floats your boat.
I switched over from the Iphone, and I will never go back. Rogers and Fido wanted upwards of $750 taxes in for a network locked Iphone 4 (without a contract), and all its glory.
I instead bought a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant, for $400, no tax, unlocked, with all VPN data (which means I can do everything a locked fido or rogers phone can do like send SMS, or videos to friends..)
So if you don't care about money, and enjoy the feeling of being limited by a company get an Iphone (if you really don't care about this level of control, then this wouldn't bother you, also if you got the phone for free who cares about a debate.)
As for the phone I have now, I have all the apps that I had on my Iphone on this phone now, so the transition for me was very smooth.
Someone mentioned viruses... there is virus protection software available (AVG).
I switched over from the Iphone, and I will never go back. Rogers and Fido wanted upwards of $750 taxes in for a network locked Iphone 4 (without a contract), and all its glory.
I instead bought a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant, for $400, no tax, unlocked, with all VPN data (which means I can do everything a locked fido or rogers phone can do like send SMS, or videos to friends..)
So if you don't care about money, and enjoy the feeling of being limited by a company get an Iphone (if you really don't care about this level of control, then this wouldn't bother you, also if you got the phone for free who cares about a debate.)
As for the phone I have now, I have all the apps that I had on my Iphone on this phone now, so the transition for me was very smooth.
Someone mentioned viruses... there is virus protection software available (AVG).
the fact you have to spend precious resources to protect your self from viruses is a deal breaker for me.
I'd be interested in seeing some examples of these viruses that everyone keeps talking about. The applications are very well sandboxed on android, and permission must be granted by the user for the various things an app wants access to (network data, gps, phone calls, sms, etc).
I've never even heard of someone getting a virus on their android phone, despite the fact that most of my friends use them. Granted, most of my friends are tech-savvy enough to avoid doing the kind of stupid **** that results in viruses, but nevertheless. Even my friends who do security research in mobile platforms haven't mentioned any...
I've never even heard of someone getting a virus on their android phone, despite the fact that most of my friends use them. Granted, most of my friends are tech-savvy enough to avoid doing the kind of stupid **** that results in viruses, but nevertheless. Even my friends who do security research in mobile platforms haven't mentioned any...
without being able to see the actual app, I can't say for certain, but this is something I'd blame on the users installing it. When you go to install an application, the system tells you all the permissions that the application is requesting. In this case, the application would be requesting permission to send/receive sms messages (otherwise, it wouldn't gain access to that part of the system). These permission requests are in big orange characters BEFORE the application is installed. There's really no excuse for not looking at these permissions before installing, as it's not long or complicated.
Basically, if I'm installing a music player, and it says it needs access to "Your messages: edit SMS or MMS, read SMS or MMS, receive SMS, receive MMS" (I typed copied that from my phone for an application that wants sms access), that should probably raise some red flags. In essence, this isn't a virus. It's an application that takes advantage of users' stupidity.
EDIT: two things. 1) the article that you quoted (now that I've actually read it entirely) has a response from google saying basically what I just did. Also, read the quoted source for a slightly more in-depth article.
2) Seems that at this year's BlackHat conference, there was a talk about how to circumvent google's permissions model for certain things. It's therefore not a perfect system, but no system is. If iPhones were bug- and defect-free, you wouldn't be able to jailbreak them (the jailbreak methods require the use of a software vulnerability, I believe, in order to gain access to the system).
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JEEEEEEZZZZ How much argument can there be about a g-d TELEPHONE!
You know, one of these:
I remember those and used one many times.
Now there's a newfangled one that I can carry with me so it can ring at completely inappropriate times and it remembers phone numbers (if the user remembers to do it, which this user has a problem with doing, but that's another matter)
When the darn thing rings, I answer it.
When I want to call someone, I dial the number. Or look it up in the newfangled memory-gizmo-thingy if I've remembered to store it from the last time.
THAT'S IT. It is just a TELEPHONE fer crissake!
You know, one of these:
I got my eyes on this baby :
I remember those and used one many times.
Now there's a newfangled one that I can carry with me so it can ring at completely inappropriate times and it remembers phone numbers (if the user remembers to do it, which this user has a problem with doing, but that's another matter)
When the darn thing rings, I answer it.
When I want to call someone, I dial the number. Or look it up in the newfangled memory-gizmo-thingy if I've remembered to store it from the last time.
THAT'S IT. It is just a TELEPHONE fer crissake!
<raises hand>
iridebikes
Banned
Smartphones are much more than telephones. I'd say out of the total amount of time I spend using the thing, only about 10% is for phone calls.
You can stay stuck in the past though, that's fine
You can stay stuck in the past though, that's fine
iridebikes
Banned
Not me, I hate talking on the phone... no sense making a phone call if a 140 character text message can convey everything that needs to be said, and does it much quicker. Having email, internet access, gps, maps, business directories, etc etc all on your cell phone is super handy.
You old dudes just need to get with the times and embrace technology, its wonderful.
You old dudes just need to get with the times and embrace technology, its wonderful.
haha! I'm with you in some respects, Brian. I'd still rather receive/make a phone call than receive/send a text message. But these things are much more than phones these days. I'd even go so far as to say that the phone is no longer even the primary function, but has become secondary to its other means of communication.
i work on the phone, rarely talk on it at home
it also costs me money to talk. txt, email and surfing is flat rate.
it also costs me money to talk. txt, email and surfing is flat rate.
I can speak 140 characters worth of words a whole lot faster than I can type it on a telephone keypad (I can type on a QWERTY keyboard pretty quickly, but not on a phone keypad). It just isn't worth my time and aggravation to deal with it. Obviously the solution is a phone with a QWERTY keypad (and my next phone will probably be one - but I'm stuck with Blackberry because RIM is one of our customers).
I've had a Blackberry in the past, where I used to work (getting to be a couple years ago). My impression is that it was a telephone, combined with not a very good camera, and not a very good GPS, and a terrible (almost unusable) internet browser. I realize the Torch is supposed to be a lot better, but I think I'll hold out for whatever follows it. But for now ... I'm using a plain ordinary Nokia cell phone with the battery cover taped in place so the battery doesn't fall out, and a real digital camera, and I write things down on pen and paper.
And whoever is saying these phones don't have battery issues, that sure hasn't been my experience. I had an Ericsson phone in which the battery didn't last a year before being unable to accept a charge. The Nokia that I have now (about 3 or 4 years old) is slowly getting shorter and shorter battery life. Throwaway society ...
Don't get me started on simplicity and reliability ..... last time I was shopping I told the guy, keep your smartphones (I have one, but only because I have to ...) and rather show me a simple phone which has a battery which will last more than a year, and is able to be in a standby for 5 days (with barely any usage ...). I'd also like a phone loud enough ...... simple. but his answer was "I have no clue" and kept showing me one with fancy touch screen and keyboard. I said I don't need that and walked away ...
The other side of the argument is, how many text messages do you have to send to express what you can convey in a minute of conversation? look at this board, often times you can write 20 posts what a 5 minute conversation would fix pronto.
As you said, I hate often times the modern gadgets and really feel sorry for the dudes who always run and stand in the lineup to be the first to get raped on latest smartphone data plan rate in Canada ... But I guess, one man's meat is another man's poison.
The other side of the argument is, how many text messages do you have to send to express what you can convey in a minute of conversation? look at this board, often times you can write 20 posts what a 5 minute conversation would fix pronto.
As you said, I hate often times the modern gadgets and really feel sorry for the dudes who always run and stand in the lineup to be the first to get raped on latest smartphone data plan rate in Canada ... But I guess, one man's meat is another man's poison.
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wonderings
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Most sales people know the highlights, the features that attract someone to buy. You fall in a gap of not what the average consumer is asking about in a phone, doesn't make your needs less valid just harder to find someone who actually knows the phones and not just the feature list they have.
I like text messages because I can respond when I have time. While at work, I don't want to have a 5 min conversation with someone when I can get the info in a text and respond at my convenience. I don't think text messages are necessarily supposed to be quicker, just allow for more flexibility in the conversation... for me at least.
I've been suffering with a Storm now for about 2 years. Text function is botched completely. "Keyboard" sucks big time. The most important thing I've discovered is that BB software support is non-existent, and they've only provided updates twice since I've had the phone. Many features are just completely unusable, and the company does nothing to correct the situation. Even their website is a joke.
iridebikes
Banned
The Torch is just more of the same junk ^
If you were thinking of 'upgrading', don't bother...
If you were thinking of 'upgrading', don't bother...
