Whitby Accident Victim Identified

[Moreno636]

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Re: Whitby Victim name released, SIU investigates.

Why just if you have a passanger, what is the difference if you run with or without a passanger and you loose control of your bike, car, moped, bicycle, scooter and hit and kill pedistrians or slam into a car door and the last thing the occupants see is your head being severed off from going through the glass?

just saying.....

The difference is that the passenger has no choice in the choice to run. If you choose to run, any and all repercussions are solely your responsibility.

 

[gwelfmike]

Re: Whitby Victim name released, SIU investigates.

The difference is that the passenger has no choice in the choice to run. If you choose to run, any and all repercussions are solely your responsibility.

The pedistrian standing at the side of the road had no choice either.....

 

[DRZSMDUDE]

Court news is open to the public. An accused has to be in court within 24 hours of time of arrest.

So you will know within 24 hours of an arrest, if not much sooner.

24hrs eh...just like the AG was.....they post poned that **** for weeks. It all depends on who you are and who you know these days

D

 

[Moreno636]

Re: Whitby Victim name released, SIU investigates.

The pedistrian standing at the side of the road had no choice either.....

Yes and anything that happens to him is the responsibility of the rider who choose to run.

 

[ZX600]

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't....but it will surely come out.

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I guess part of why some people are arguing with you is because not many of us have much fait on your statement and that may be something your department needs to start really taking a look at.

Not only on a motorcycle forum, if you read the comments on other non motorcycle related forums pretty much the opinions are anti-cop (on this situation)

 

[ZX600]

Or maybe he learned on GTAM how to tilt his plate or rig it with a pull cord.

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Lies, we all know you do not learn anything on GTAM

 

[ZX600]

And I would hardly say I've taken a beating, as it would seem that most posters that appear to have some common sense or a normal level of intelligence seem to be thinking similar things as I do.

I find it amazing that the people that agree with you are the ones you seem to think that "appear to have some common sense or a normal level of intelligence" wow, amazing coincidence

 

[Smokeandapancake]

The whole thing smells of something! There are very little to no details and that doesnt seem normal.

No one is to blame but the rider, no matter what the cop did he was doing his job! If his superior told him to not pursure or engage and he did, well then you may be able to pin a lil on the cop.

There is a dead innocent girl, that is someones daughter, maybe someones mother and her death needs to be accounted for, and some closure for the family.

Again....once the SIU is involved the police are shut down as far as media releases.

The only media releases now are by the SIU or atleasted vetted by the SIU.

 

[Smokeandapancake]

24hrs eh...just like the AG was.....they post poned that **** for weeks. It all depends on who you are and who you know these days

D

I am talking about an initial appearance. You cannot be held in custody for longer than 24 hours without being put in front of a justice, at which time means you are formally charged.

If I recall correctly ( and I may not be ) the AG was arrested and charged quite quickly.

 

[regder]

But here is the point: you are saying that definitely the rider is guilty. A lot of people are saying that. And it's being said with almost no information given.

Why is it okay to speculate that the rider is guilty and not okay to speculate that a police officer is guilty?

Shouldn't we all just wait for the information to find the light of day before we all condemn anyone?

..Tom

Regardless of specifics, the rider lost a passenger, failed to remain/return to the scene, and has not reported himself to police. The rider is guilty of at least that

 

[Smokeandapancake]

I guess part of why some people are arguing with you is because not many of us have much fait on your statement and that may be something your department needs to start really taking a look at.

Not only on a motorcycle forum, if you read the comments on other non motorcycle related forums pretty much the opinions are anti-cop (on this situation)

It is SIU that is investigating this, as far as the cops involvement.

But I guess maybe the cop could have hit her and then just cruised on over to the car wash and sprayed, the blood, guts and hair off his car. "Hey SIU man, I washed my car all up for you, here it is now for you to seize it".

The opinion here, on this incident, I would say is far from anti cop. In fact, it appears to be only a very few posters who seem to think the cop is at fault.

There is no more information being released and because of that people seem to want to make up scenarios or believe that there is a big cover up in the works.

 

[ZX600]

But I guess maybe the cop could have hit her and then just cruised on over to the car wash and sprayed, the blood, guts and hair off his car. "Hey SIU man, I washed my car all up for you, here it is now for you to seize it".

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Statements like this just shows that you have your emotions at play here. So far you have done a relative good job at trying to give the "police" perspective and have offered some good inside knowledge, that some of us appreciate.

You latest post are starting to show that no matter what anyone says you will always be right and that is when your arguments lose validity

I need to get back to work :happy3:

 

[Smokeandapancake]

Statements like this just shows that you have your emotions at play here. So far you have done a relative good job at trying to give the "police" perspective and have offered some good inside knowledge, that some of us appreciate.

You latest post are starting to show that no matter what anyone says you will always be right and that is when your arguments lose validity

I need to get back to work :happy3:

Statements like that are with humour. If the uninformed would take a minute and read a bit, they would quickly become informed and understand how absurd that statement I made is.

It's got nothing to do with emotions. Actually I guess it does, I am laughing at some levels of thought on here.

But please feel free to start backing up what you say with some solid information here anytime now.

Have a good day at work!!!

 

[jefflthomas]

Bill 203 - Safer Roads for a Safer Ontario Act

Increases fines for street racers and aggressive drivers, including those who drive 50 km/h or more over the posted speed limit, to $10,000 and allows police to immediately suspend the driver’s licence and impound the vehicle for seven days;

gotta wonder eh!

 

[spankayf]

My days of believing the police version of events are looong gone and there is an odd disconnect with the story as released so far.

 

[ZX600]

But please feel free to start backing up what you say with some solid information here anytime now.

Have a good day at work!!!

Come on dude, you know none of us really have any way to back any statements, its all just opinions, neither do you.

plus, anyone that quotes Austin Powers on Golden Member as their handle is A ok on my books, even if he/she is a cop. don't be angry

 

[samakaflash]

For sure he is reading this he would want to know if he has been made or not

 

[FiReSTaRT]

I just don't understand one thing.. It's a fact that the rider ran from the cop while transporting a passenger. Why are people here speculating on possible police wrongdoing? Everybody here knows that I do not hesitate to jump on a cop when it's pretty obvious that he did something wrong, but what's happening here really approaches the tinfoil hat realm.

 

[phucyall]

Maybe they said it, definitely not cool, but I bet they didn't mean it.

Aggravated assault with a weapon, attempt murder, dangerous driving, criminal neglignece would be the charges and SIU would be all over it.

Meant it or not, that still uttering threats.

Police ram people off of bikes every day??? And then cover it up??? I must have missed hearing about those daily occurences.

And if such a thing were to happen it would likely be investigated by SIU.

It's not much of a cover up if you have heard about those occurrences now is it?

Dealing with domestic situations is a whole other can of worms.

Actually, uttering threats is uttering threats, regardless of where and how you do it. It's the exact same can of worms.

 

[roadhamr]

i would think that info has stopped trickling out because of some respect for the deceased's family. so they can continue the investigation? i want to believe the police arent covering anything up and that they will do their jobs and a positive result will come of it.
this is a terrible accident. i dont know how this could have happened and i really cant believe the individual who was piloting the bike has not yet stepped forward. it is all so gruesome. this is really a black mark on all of us who ride.

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