Whitby Accident Victim Identified

[FiReSTaRT]

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Re: Whitby Victim name released, SIU investigates.

That will do nothing to prevent people from crossing 400 series highways which is both illegal and uncommon.

At least, it'll give the drivers minutes to avoid the pedestrians, or allow the pedestrians to run faster than the cars.

 

[KJM]

Re: Whitby Victim name released, SIU investigates.

At least, it'll give the drivers minutes to avoid the pedestrians, or allow the pedestrians to run faster than the cars.

Sounds like you're trying to encourage pedestrians crossing major highways with your new idea.

 

[moto22]

Police ram people off of bikes every day??? And then cover it up??? I must have missed hearing about those daily occurences.

And if such a thing were to happen it would likely be investigated by SIU.

No! they don't ram people off bikes everyday,but I'd be willing to bet it's happened before , but not as frequently as everyday ..however assaults, threats , false reports and testimony I'm pretty comfortable saying are happening daily..

 

[blackcamaro]

So my question is, if you suspected your friend may be the fugitive biker, would you turn him in? If yes, would you remain anonymous or let him know it was you? If he confessed to you in confidence, would you rat him out?

Absolutley and I would tell them to their face it was me who snitched. Someone is dead and someone needs to answer to that.

 

[moto22]

As far as clearing the yahoo's out, did you and all the other riders there go and make a formal complaint????

No riders made any formal complaints, jus complained among themselves. I guess after years of riding you know and understand that a certain level of police harassment comes with the territory and those incidents are negated to jus another interesting topic of conversation over coffee..unfortunately

 

[FiReSTaRT]

No! they don't ram people of bikes everyday,but I'd be willing to bet it's happened, but not as frequently as everyday ..however assaults, threats , false reports and testimony I'm pretty comfortable saying are happening daily..

That, I can agree with as I've witnessed most of that in person or am closely related to people who experienced it. However, it's highly unlikely that the cop was ramming the bike or firing away at it. The reports that are out there and the ones that are missing just don't add up to it.

 

[FiReSTaRT]

Re: Whitby Victim name released, SIU investigates.

Sounds like you're trying to encourage pedestrians crossing major highways with your new idea.

Actually, we should just eliminate cars. That way, nobody will ever die in a car accident. One death is too many

 

[jc100]

No riders made any formal complaints, jus complained among themselves. I guess after years of riding you know and understand that a certain level of police harassment comes with the territory and those incidents are negated to jus another interesting topic of conversation over coffee..

Wow..I feel left out...never having been "harassed".

 

[moto22]

That, I can agree with as I've witnessed most of that in person or am closely related to people who experienced it. However, it's highly unlikely that the cop was ramming the bike or firing away at it. The reports that are out there and the ones that are missing just don't add up to it.

I hope thats the case ..but still find it fishy the cop not talking to SIU :confused1:

 

[moto22]

Wow..I feel left out...never having been "harassed".

Give it time Juice... you will ...

 

[FiReSTaRT]

I hope thats the case ..but still find it fishy the cop not talking to SIU :confused1:

Just look at the lack of people media-whoring about the cop going Hulk on the 401. Somebody would have surfaced for their 5min had that happened.

 

[moto22]

Just look at the lack of people media-whoring about the cop going Hulk on the 401. Somebody would have surfaced for their 5min had that happened.

True enuff.. but he's hiding something, if not that, "something else"...

 

[Smokeandapancake]

Meant it or not, that still uttering threats.

It's not much of a cover up if you have heard about those occurrences now is it?

Actually, uttering threats is uttering threats, regardless of where and how you do it. It's the exact same can of worms.

Actually it's not.

In domestic situations, if there are RG's to believe an offence has been committed, the police SHALL lay charges.

In non-domestic situations, the police MAY lay charges. If the victim of the threats does not want charges, police do not have to lay them.

 

[V-Tom]

Re: Whitby Victim name released, SIU investigates.

In 14 years of driving, I've never seen a pedestrian crossing a 400-series highway and I even painted nice lines and put up a sign for a crossover

I have seen it about three times, and seen on the news a few times where pedestrians got hit in such a scenerio. I've also seen a car driving down the 400 the wrong way on the shoulder a few years ago.

..Tom

 

[Smokeandapancake]

Umm no he wasn't. and he didn't get to see a judge within 24hrs, he was released and charged on a later date if I remember correctly. I know it's the law but for some reason it didn't apply to him. Like I said it's all about who you know and what your lawyer does...there could be a publication ban...

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Well if was released with no charges, there is no reason to be put before a judge.

If a person is charged they either need to be in front of a justice within 24 hours or released with a court date, ie promise to appear or appearance notice.

They likely interviewed him then forwarded the package to a crown for direction. That's why the delay in the charge.

 

[Smokeandapancake]

if the cop actually did hit the rider, wouldnt you think that there would be evidence on the cruiser? I just think we'd know it by now if that's what happened cause it'd have to be obvious. If you hit a person hard enough to kill them, your car isnt going to be spotless?

just a thought

Absolutely, I mentioned that a couple times previously.
There would likely be damage and definitely DNA substance.

It's possible the cruiser did strike her, but again, it is an SIU investigation and they seldom release any info.

 

[ZX600]

Give it time Juice... you will ...

Shsss he is a cop himself

 

[Smokeandapancake]

No! they don't ram people of bikes everyday,but I'd be willing to bet it's happened before , but not as frequently as everyday ..however assaults, threats , false reports and testimony I'm pretty comfortable saying are happening daily..

I guarantee it has happened, and in some cases justified and warranted.

Unfortunately, you are correct on the other. Numerous times daily.

 

[ZX600]

No! they don't ram people of bikes everyday,but I'd be willing to bet it's happened before , but not as frequently as everyday ..however assaults, threats , false reports and testimony I'm pretty comfortable saying are happening daily..

I guarantee it has happened, and in some cases justified and warranted.

Unfortunately, you are correct on the other. Numerous times daily.

Are you saying that in some cases ramming people of bikes is justified and warranted? just asking cause I don't want to put words on your mouth.

 

[Smokeandapancake]

I hope thats the case ..but still find it fishy the cop not talking to SIU :confused1:

IF you were involved in an incident where someone was killed (or any other incident for that matter) and the police could be looking at you as a suspect, what would you do????

In all likelihood, you would speak to a lawyer and take his advice, which would be to not say anything.

EVERYONE in Canada is afforded the same rights under the Charter.

However, I will say that in my dealings, I bet the percentage of subject officers that give a statement to SIU is much higher then that of regular civillian suspects.

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