Whitby Accident Victim Identified

I'm not saying the cop is innocent, and definitely the rider isn't, but can't we leave the theories out until we at least have more information as to what happened?

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That seems odd since they are conducting the investigation... If the officer refused to speak to the SIU that just screams he's moved into cover his *** mode. At the very least he would have to file a report of the incident.

But wouldn't they say " If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to worry about" :laughing8: ;)

The police use that line all the time on the general public so wouldn't it be good enough for them?
 
In "Mission Impossible" they know how the villain is going to bump someone off so they can have the correct counter-weapon at hand. This wasn't TV or the movies.
I'm surprised someone hasn't suggested that the cop should have shot out the ignition switch.
Prozac anyone?
 
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I'm not saying the cop is innocent, and definitely the rider isn't, but can't we leave the theories out until we at least have more information as to what happened?

But here is the point: you are saying that definitely the rider is guilty. A lot of people are saying that. And it's being said with almost no information given.

Why is it okay to speculate that the rider is guilty and not okay to speculate that a police officer is guilty?

Shouldn't we all just wait for the information to find the light of day before we all condemn anyone?

..Tom
 
But here is the point: you are saying that definitely the rider is guilty. A lot of people are saying that. And it's being said with almost no information given.

Why is it okay to speculate that the rider is guilty and not okay to speculate that a police officer is guilty?

Shouldn't we all just wait for the information to find the light of day before we all condemn anyone?

..Tom

If the driver knew he lost a passenger on the road, and did not return, it is a safe bet that he is atleast guilty of that.
 
It seems rather odd that interviewing the officer wouldn't have been at the top of their list. After all, he was the one who saw the bike.

Conspiracy theory : Unless he did something wrong and is being shielded by the police union.

I do remember being with a large group of riders in a parking lot and having the OPP visit there on more then one occasion and claim they would ram fleeing riders with there car...:sad3: humm ..Cop doesn't want to talk to the SIU, a passenger for a unknown reason becomes dismounted from a bike ..interesting to say the least.
 
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Lets keep the arguments about the cops out of this thread....

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the fact that there are 6 SIU investigators involved ( I saw maybe a few of them the next morning on my way to Ottawa), indicates that strong rumors about the Police cruiser chasing and hitting the girl to be of some reliability.

The tragedy is still fresh, I hope everybody considers how much pain and sorrow the girl family and loved ones has, before getting on making opinions about who is at fault, there seems to be very few innocent parties involved here :(


And the thread was already off to a banner start.

The community's thoughts are with the victims family, I know we all feel for this woman and her family. Everyone here has been shaken hard by this incident.

Speculation has already caused some fractious debate and a closure of one thread. Let's not have the horror of the event be overshadowed by internet battles which .....as far as I am aware.

Smoke you have taken a beating for your desire to defend your fellow officers, which is admiral, but at this point its just providing fuel for the fire.
 
I do remember being with a large group of riders in a parking lot and having the OPP visit there on more then one occasion and claim they would ram fleeing riders with there car...:sad3: humm ..Cop doesn't want to talk to the SIU, a passenger for a unknown reason becomes dismounted from a bike ..interesting to say the least.

Maybe they said it, definitely not cool, but I bet they didn't mean it.

Aggravated assault with a weapon, attempt murder, dangerous driving, criminal neglignece would be the charges and SIU would be all over it.
 
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And the thread was already off to a banner start.

The community's thoughts are with the victims family, I know we all feel for this woman and her family. Everyone here has been shaken hard by this incident.

Speculation has already caused some fractious debate and a closure of one thread. Let's not have the horror of the event be overshadowed by internet battles which .....as far as I am aware.

Smoke you have taken a beating for your desire to defend your fellow officers, which is admiral, but at this point its just providing fuel for the fire.

I'm not defending anyone....maybe the cop was negligent and if he was, he will be held accountable.

But the amount of utter garbage and speculation posted by some is truly unbelievable.

And I would hardly say I've taken a beating, as it would seem that most posters that appear to have some common sense or a normal level of intelligence seem to be thinking similar things as I do.
 
Maybe they said it, definitely not cool, but I bet they didn't mean it.

Aggravated assault with a weapon, attempt murder, dangerous driving, criminal neglignece would be the charges and SIU would be all over it.

Umm here's the problem, those things happen everyday and are covered up by police ... the various forces are doing a poor job of clearing out the yahoo's and people that have no right being there . As far as them meaning it, i don't know but for some reason i don't really put it past them..
 
Maybe they said it, definitely not cool, but I bet they didn't mean it.

Aggravated assault with a weapon, attempt murder, dangerous driving, criminal neglignece would be the charges and SIU would be all over it.

would that also include uttering (death) threats? A friend of mine out west ended up spending christmas in jail one year because his exgf goaded him into saying "I'm gonna kill ya" when she informed him that not only was she not allowing their son to spend part of christmas holidays with him but she spent the money he sent for his son's plane ticket on her current boyfriend. he certainly didn't mean it, there was no intent and he had no history of violence. but bam - some unfortunate words spouted in anger but he certainly didn't mean them and would never have acted on them.
 
would that also include uttering (death) threats? A friend of mine out west ended up spending christmas in jail one year because his exgf goaded him into saying "I'm gonna kill ya" when she informed him that not only was she not allowing their son to spend part of christmas holidays with him but she spent the money he sent for his son's plane ticket on her current boyfriend. he certainly didn't mean it, there was no intent and he had no history of violence. but bam - some unfortunate words spouted in anger but he certainly didn't mean them and would never have acted on them.

Could possibly be a threat...
 
Umm here's the problem, those things happen everyday and are covered up by police ... the various forces are doing a poor job of clearing out the yahoo's and people that have no right being there . As far as them meaning it, i don't know but for some reason i don't really put it past them..


Police ram people off of bikes every day??? And then cover it up??? I must have missed hearing about those daily occurences.

And if such a thing were to happen it would likely be investigated by SIU.
 
Umm here's the problem, those things happen everyday and are covered up by police ... the various forces are doing a poor job of clearing out the yahoo's and people that have no right being there . As far as them meaning it, i don't know but for some reason i don't really put it past them..

As far as clearing the yahoo's out, did you and all the other riders there go and make a formal complaint????
 
would that also include uttering (death) threats? A friend of mine out west ended up spending christmas in jail one year because his exgf goaded him into saying "I'm gonna kill ya" when she informed him that not only was she not allowing their son to spend part of christmas holidays with him but she spent the money he sent for his son's plane ticket on her current boyfriend. he certainly didn't mean it, there was no intent and he had no history of violence. but bam - some unfortunate words spouted in anger but he certainly didn't mean them and would never have acted on them.

Dealing with domestic situations is a whole other can of worms.
 
If you are on this forum and reading this, do the right thing and turn yourself in.
I dunno how you sleep at night knowing what you did.
Makes me sick

Rip to the girls family
 
Re: Whitby Victim name released, SIU investigates.

Why just if you have a passanger, what is the difference if you run with or without a passanger and you loose control of your bike, car, moped, bicycle, scooter and hit and kill pedistrians or slam into a car door and the last thing the occupants see is your head being severed off from going through the glass?

just saying.....

It's simple.. If you're with a passenger, you do not run Stop and take it like a man, instead of putting your passenger's life at risk. RIP Ioana.
 
The whole thing smells of something! There are very little to no details and that doesnt seem normal.

No one is to blame but the rider, no matter what the cop did he was doing his job! If his superior told him to not pursure or engage and he did, well then you may be able to pin a lil on the cop.

There is a dead innocent girl, that is someones daughter, maybe someones mother and her death needs to be accounted for, and some closure for the family.
 

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