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Whitby Accident Victim Identified
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zeekat
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Turbo handles all the TPS bashing on this thread and SmokingPancakes takes care of the OPP ones.
So which is which?
True, the rider is at fault for taking off, but I think if the cop handled the situation differently, she would still be alive. After all, he is supposed to be the one that can make the good decisions. High speed night chases for a simple HTA offence doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Sounds more like an ego tripping cop on the thrill of a big chase.
A SUBJECT officer does NOT have to speak to SIU.
A witness officer does.
Yes, they can have counsel present.
How did the cop handle the situation??
It seems by your posts, you know more about this then the rest of us???
What police report are you actually referring to??
What??? Do you expect the police are going to release to the media the names, addresseses and phone numbers of all the witnesses??
I assume you don't know much about a potential homicide investigation.
Re: Whitby Victim name released, SIU investigates.
6 is barely enough to do the proper investigation at the scene.
2 investigators,
2 forensic guys
2 reconstructionists.
There's your 6.
http://www.citytv.com/toronto/cityn...rom-back-of-motorbike-last-weekend-identified
the fact that there are 6 SIU investigators involved ( I saw maybe a few of them the next morning on my way to Ottawa), indicates that strong rumors about the Police cruiser chasing and hitting the girl to be of some reliability.
The tragedy is still fresh, I hope everybody considers how much pain and sorrow the girl family and loved ones has, before getting on making opinions about who is at fault, there seems to be very few innocent parties involved here
6 is barely enough to do the proper investigation at the scene.
2 investigators,
2 forensic guys
2 reconstructionists.
There's your 6.
blackcamaro
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So you think when it is dark out we should run if we break the law and just get a free pass? It's kind of foolish to even entertain that idea.
It appears to me that this is a case of an ego tripping rider with a **** the police attitude and zero concern for others safety.
People expect everything is solved and everyone knows everything within 60 minutes like a TV show. Great expectations.
Honestly, you just gotta love all the speculation. Put out a 1000 different situations, and you're bound to be right once or twice. Then you get to say, I knew it before anyone else or I told you so.
I'm 100% confident the rider attracted the attention of the police. The rider's initial behavoir (legal or not) to attract the attention doesn't matter. It's all pure speculation at this point. To suggest the cop had any bearing of responsibility in the passenger's death is complete BS. The rider should and must have complete care and control of their machine at times. Enough with the cop should have handled it different already.
Honestly, you just gotta love all the speculation. Put out a 1000 different situations, and you're bound to be right once or twice. Then you get to say, I knew it before anyone else or I told you so.
I'm 100% confident the rider attracted the attention of the police. The rider's initial behavoir (legal or not) to attract the attention doesn't matter. It's all pure speculation at this point. To suggest the cop had any bearing of responsibility in the passenger's death is complete BS. The rider should and must have complete care and control of their machine at times. Enough with the cop should have handled it different already.
I have no idea who is at fault. neither do you .
Better to spend money on that than the 1.2 billion + spent on the G20 to break the charter of rights and the truckloads of new OPP vehicles rolling into Orillia right before the G20 G8.
Actually I have a pretty good idea of who's at fault.
I totally agree with your 2nd part.
The rider should have stopped. The rider shouldn't have been going so fast (especially with a passenger) that he was afraid to stop for fear of a 172. Very irresponsible with a tragic ending.
We need police. I want them in my community. I have done 16K this summer so far and 23K last year, 27K the year before and I have a clean driving record. No need to jump down my throat for me sharing my thoughts on what I think took place. So far everything keeps pointing in that direction.
What is "everything" that is pointing in that direction???
There hasn't been much released since the original media releases and the identity of the victim.
The report the police gave to the media.
I could probably write a book on the things that money would have been better spent on, but hey, what's done is done.
Only problem is that we're the ones paying for it for the next 20 years.
Like this one...
The province’s Special Investigations Unit is on the case after a motorcycle passenger was killed late Friday night on Highway 401 in Whitby.
Around 11:40pm, a Durham Region police officer tried to pull over a motorcyclist in the highway’s westbound lanes, just west of Brock Street.
The driver immediately accelerated and the passenger fell off the back of the bike.
The passenger was then struck by at least one westbound vehicle. The driver of the motorcycle took off from the scene.
The victim was pronounced dead at the scene.
Police temporarily closed the westbound lanes of the 401 at Brock St. for the investigation. It re-opened at around 12:30pm.
Or this one...
Motorcycle passenger is killed; police seek identities
680News staff Aug 28, 2010 07:08:05 AM
WHITBY, Ont. - There is not much for provincial police to go on as they investigate the death of a motorcycle passenger late last night on the 401 in Whitby, Ontario.
Constable Graham Williamson told 680News at about 11:39 p.m., a Durham Regional Police officer in a marked cruiser signalled a motorcycle driver in the westbound Highway 401, just west of Brock Street, to pull over. But, instead of stopping the driver accelerated.
That sudden acceleration caused the passenger to fall off the bike. The passenger was then struck by one or more vehicles, and was killed.
The motorcyclist did not remain at the scene of the incident.
"We are actively seeking witnesses who can advise us as to the identity of the motorcyclist because the motorcyclist did not stop. And also, any vehicle that may have struck the deceased at the scene. None of those vehicles stopped, so we are actively seeking the identity of virtually every involved in this incident," said Williamson.
The passenger was pronounced deceased at the scene.
The westbound lanes of the 401 at Brock Street in Whitby could be closed for another couple of hours.
Motorcycle passenger is killed; police seek identities
680News staff Aug 28, 2010 07:08:05 AM
WHITBY, Ont. - There is not much for provincial police to go on as they investigate the death of a motorcycle passenger late last night on the 401 in Whitby, Ontario.
Constable Graham Williamson told 680News at about 11:39 p.m., a Durham Regional Police officer in a marked cruiser signalled a motorcycle driver in the westbound Highway 401, just west of Brock Street, to pull over. But, instead of stopping the driver accelerated.
That sudden acceleration caused the passenger to fall off the bike. The passenger was then struck by one or more vehicles, and was killed.
The motorcyclist did not remain at the scene of the incident.
"We are actively seeking witnesses who can advise us as to the identity of the motorcyclist because the motorcyclist did not stop. And also, any vehicle that may have struck the deceased at the scene. None of those vehicles stopped, so we are actively seeking the identity of virtually every involved in this incident," said Williamson.
The passenger was pronounced deceased at the scene.
The westbound lanes of the 401 at Brock Street in Whitby could be closed for another couple of hours.
A) Since when is this a homicide investigation?
B) They dont have to give out specifics but routinely news reports will say "witnesses say" or according to "eye witnesses" etc.
Yes this report basically says what I outlined in my scenario.
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