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Vaccinated?

  • Yes...Pfizer or Moderna

    Votes: 82 58.6%

  • Yes...Astra Zeneca or J&J

    Votes: 26 18.6%

  • not yet but soon

    Votes: 11 7.9%

  • not booking it yet but I might get it eventually

    Votes: 11 7.9%

  • not going to get vaccinated

    Votes: 13 9.3%
  • Total voters
    140
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The age distribution of cases isn't surprising, given that vaccination started with the oldest people and worked down towards the youngest, both UK and here, the older groups have higher vaccination rates. See figure 3 (this document gets updated weekly) https://www.publichealthontario.ca/...-vaccine-uptake-ontario-epi-summary.pdf?la=en

The age distribution of Delta cases in the UK looks very similar to the general (not specific to Delta variant) distribution of covid19 in Ontario. https://files.ontario.ca/moh-covid-19-report-en-2021-06-23.pdf
 
Brian P said:
The age distribution of cases isn't surprising, given that vaccination started with the oldest people and worked down towards the youngest, both UK and here, the older groups have higher vaccination rates. See figure 3 (this document gets updated weekly) https://www.publichealthontario.ca/...-vaccine-uptake-ontario-epi-summary.pdf?la=en

The age distribution of Delta cases in the UK looks very similar to the general (not specific to Delta variant) distribution of covid19 in Ontario. https://files.ontario.ca/moh-covid-19-report-en-2021-06-23.pdf
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The oldest groups also are old enough to remember dealing with rampant diseases that needed to be vaccinated against so there is less convincing to do. Ask a 50 year old about Polio and they will look at you blankly....ask a 70 year old and they'll rhyme off a friend or two who had it as a child.
 
voyageur said:
Anyone here got mixed doses of pfizer and moderna? All sorts of conspiracy theory circulating and I'm not sure now who to believe lol. My first one was pfizer. Not sure if I should wait till pfizer 2nd dose becomes available...
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Other then them never turning a profit or producing a product that has passed medical trials, which are facts, what are the conspiracy theories? 🤔
 
Dimitri said:
Other then them never turning a profit or producing a product that has passed medical trials, which are facts, what are the conspiracy theories? 🤔
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Every single member of the board has worked at a global top 10 research and development pharmaceutical company. These aren’t San Francisco app developers.
 
jc100 said:
Every single member of the board has worked at a global top 10 research and development pharmaceutical company. These aren’t San Francisco app developers.
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While true, it's less then stellar performance is on the minds of many critical of their offering.

If someone is not willing to put it into their investment portfolio, the likelihood of being okay with being injected by their product follows the same path.

But I haven't really heard any juicy conspiracy theories. I spend most of my time reading medical journals and government reports. So sort of curious.
 
Dimitri said:
While true, it's less then stellar performance is on the minds of many critical of their offering.

If someone is not willing to put it into their investment portfolio, the likelihood of being okay with being injected by their product follows the same path.

But I haven't really heard any juicy conspiracy theories. I spend most of my time reading medical journals and government reports. So sort of curious.
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Your issue was with clinical trials…..the members of the board have worked with Eli Lilly, Novartis, Sanofi, Glaxo Smithkline etc etc. All of those companies have conducted hundreds of clinical trials over the years.

Your issue is also with the technology…..which has been trialed in human populations years ago as anti-cancer therapies. Which you’ll easily find in medical journals…let me know if you need info from the paywalled ones…I have access to all of them.

The company is a de facto startup company but it doesn’t mean that all the workers and the board are neophytes. On the contrary, they all look eminently qualified for the job they do.

Gilead is a company that up until relatively recently was off the radar. A start up company at one point. It currently is extremely successful and holds patents for one of the worlds #1 selling small molecule drugs.

Anything else?
 
Dimitri said:
Other then them never turning a profit or producing a product that has passed medical trials, which are facts, what are the conspiracy theories? 🤔
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Well, I'm just talking about the general population getting mixed shots in this case. Some media outlets saying it's good to get mixed doses and some folks saying otherwise. I must say that I'm not too informed about the medical field and don't keep up with the happenings. So I just wanted to know the consensus here, that's all.
 
voyageur said:
Well, I'm just talking about the general population getting mixed shots in this case. Some media outlets saying it's good to get mixed doses and some folks saying otherwise. I must say that I'm not too informed about the medical field and don't keep up with the happenings. So I just wanted to know the consensus here, that's all.
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Try and get information from medical sources if possible. Reading studies is good but you need to know what to look for as some are better than others.

For a normal person, I would say the best easily accessible source of information seems to be the medical officers of health. Loh in brampton has bee reasonably consistent and level headed imo. Toronto lady is good.

William's and tam seemed to be too tied politically and I dont believe much of what they say (especially tam, she should have been fired years ago but she is perfect for JT to manage the message).

NACI should be good but again seem to make statements mostly based on what JT wants them to say and they are all over the map. They should be canned as all they do is make people confused or worse

Media is mostly bad as they all spin crap and go for click bait.
 
GreyGhost said:
Try and get information from medical sources if possible. Reading studies is good but you need to know what to look for as some are better than others.

For a normal person, I would say the best easily accessible source of information seems to be the medical officers of health. Loh in brampton has bee reasonably consistent and level headed imo. Toronto lady is good.

William's and tam seemed to be too tied politically and I dont believe much of what they say (especially tam, she should have been fired years ago but she is perfect for JT to manage the message).

NACI should be good but again seem to make statements mostly based on what JT wants them to say and they are all over the map. They should be canned as all they do is make people confused or worse

Media is mostly bad as they all spin crap and go for click bait.
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True, was reading an article by Loh stating take what you get. At this point, my belief is that no one knows much about the virus so far and it's all a shot in the dark.
 
jc100 said:
Your issue was with clinical trials…..
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Government politics and mismanagement aside, that is my only issue when it comes to the vaccine manufactures.

My comment on their performance of the company is the one that I hear from friends who are analysts at the banks. Who all ran out for AZ or Pfizer depending on their age bracket.

I'd be personally more inclined to take Moderna over Pfizer.
 
I've been waiting to get my second dose until I can confirm I'd get the same as the first (Moderna). Right or wrong I'd rather stick to a single brand for a few reasons, most of which have been already discussed by you guys in this thread.

Luckily my work secured more Moderna, so I'll get my second shot next week, which is exactly 7 weeks after my first. :D
 
Blah blah blah

Who made your flu shot?
Which facility made it?
What technology?
Did they publish 20 year long term health studies by age bracket and flu variant?
What was its effiency by age group?
 
I'll admit my last bike burned a bit of oil and I would often top it up with a different brand of oil.
I often ride with mixed tires on the front and rear, just to see what it feels like.
I've even worn a pair of riding pants that didn't match my jacket.

How am I still here without reading the research on these wild behaviours?

Mixing vaccines or not is the least of my concerns.
 
Tinfoil hat crowd has always answer shopped to fit their agenda/narrative. That does not mean there is no risk with the vaccines BTW, but the tinfoil hat crowd just do this as an excuse.....
  • Look, look, look, someone got sick and they had two vaccines, it is a scam.
  • Look, look, look there is a variant, vaccines are a scam (of course, that is how viruses work if we let them).
  • Look, look, look, the powers that be changed their answer to a question from months ago (like mixing doses).
  • Look, look, look, someone died in a car accident but the death was misclassified as COVID or they tested the person for COVID, there is a conspiracy, numbers are over stated!!!!!! all car accidents are COVID...!!!!
  • Look, look, look people under 40 rarely die, it is a conspiracy.
  • Look, look, look only sick people die (actually we all die sooner or later, only question is timing which COVID sped up for some).
  • Look, look, look, someone got sick but they were wearing a mask, masks are a scam.
  • Look, look, look, one of the companies supplying vaccine never did before (of course as they are new, duh).
  • Look, look, look, someone got an erection, Pfizer is cross contaminating batches.
  • Look, look, look there is a post infection treatment that might work, vaccines are a scam.
  • Look, look, look someone got vaccinated and now they can't get pregnant (but was never before)...."
  • Look, look, look, Bill Gates said to get it, must be a chip.
  • Look, look, look my rights....
  • Look, look, look Britney Spears something, something or other that fits their narrative..................................
  • If you research the science and find non-tinfoil answers you are the sheep.
  • So on and so forth.
Stop being real sheep, I get people live in fear, but don't use screwball sheepeople tinfoil hat stuff as an excuse to be selfish, just say "Hey, I am selfish and I won't get the vaccine because I am scared of it." Just hope everyone else does or you may be screwed....
 
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