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TMP Labour Day Weekend
- Thread starter Corsara
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Okay, I'll get into this. haha...
My tire at the end of the day Monday looked almost exactly like this (49over's):
Mine was not a Pirelli, and was not a slick. I was running Bridgestone R10's. I was using Bickle tire warmers. Rear pressure was 29psi hot. I was running in the 1:22's and 1:23's most of the afternoon. My bike has an Elka rear shock. What I think is wrong with my setup is that the rear spring is too stiff. Sag is set at 24mm IIRC, but I believe the spring is for a 220lb rider (front has 0.95's which is proper for me at 185lbs). I just thought of this today so I'm going to check my spring rate. At GBR I was running BStone slicks and the rear was perfect but the front was dog haired, around the circumference, indicating that there was too much weight on the front. I think the rear being too stiff is causing the rear to ride too high at max lean angle and put too much weight up front, which also puts too little weight on the back, not allowing the tire to build enough heat, causing cold tears on the rear.
You will lose heat and not gain heat at TMP for starters, Cheap warmers will make a difference. There aren't that many bumps at TMP..
I keep hearing about these bumps, but all I've ever noticed was one if I run wide on 1, one near the apex on 2, and one exiting 12 (which I seem to avoid pretty often). EDIT: there's one exiting 5 by the turtle on the exit mark---that one is fun, sends me flying every time when I'm hard on the gas
I've also tried Q3 for a trackday this summer, and loved them for my pace.
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You mean take the wrong line so I can find them?Go fast enough and you can find them
No need to be offended
If you believe cheap warmers don't make a difference and that if you go out on TMP you will build tire heat and you also believe that TMP is bumpy enough to "make you tires skip when on and off the throttle" on the proper fast line, then power to you! lol
And also if you believe I am slow I respect that, I am guessing you have raced or done track days with me since you have an opinion
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Okay, I'll get into this. haha...
My tire at the end of the day Monday looked almost exactly like this (49over's):
Mine was not a Pirelli, and was not a slick. I was running Bridgestone R10's. I was using Bickle tire warmers. Rear pressure was 29psi hot. I was running in the 1:22's and 1:23's most of the afternoon. My bike has an Elka rear shock. What I think is wrong with my setup is that the rear spring is too stiff. Sag is set at 24mm IIRC, but I believe the spring is for a 220lb rider (front has 0.95's which is proper for me at 185lbs). I just thought of this today so I'm going to check my spring rate. At GBR I was running BStone slicks and the rear was perfect but the front was dog haired, around the circumference, indicating that there was too much weight on the front. I think the rear being too stiff is causing the rear to ride too high at max lean angle and put too much weight up front, which also puts too little weight on the back, not allowing the tire to build enough heat, causing cold tears on the rear.
And mine looked like that too. And smarter people than myself told me it's rebound.
tell that to my $100, who-knows-how-old, partly burnt Chicken Hawk warmers.
I forget and I'm too lazy to read back, did you adjust it at the track and see it improve? I had similar tearing to this on my old bike, adjusted damping in both directions throughout the afternoon and saw no improvement. It was an incorrect spring and too low front end.
Lmao!
I was at 1:24 on them and didn't have a single slide. Not that I had any on older Q2 tires either... There's a thread I posted about it here, read it: http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?173364-Anyone-tried-the-Dunlop-Q3-yet (see post #37)
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I tried adjusting the rebound but my shock is done. 3 full turns and the bike sprung up the same.
You dont know what you're talking about. Your finger diahhrea is giving me a headache.
Hey, I'm just giving my opinion and what I've experienced and what I've been told by more experienced people.
You and your 'more experienced people' are wrong.
Well you are friends with many of these 'more experienced' people. I guess I'll just skip out this thread now. My job here is done.
A DOT race tire or race slick will never, ever get up to operating temp without warmers. Whoever told you that a few warm up laps is sufficient is completely wrong.
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