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Tips for knocking down price? Buying a new bike.

Which dealership did you deal with?

I want to know in order to avoid them for any potential future purchases. I'm sure others do as well!
EDIT: Just read the above post

NOTE TO SELF:

AVOID KAHUNA POWERSPORTS
- and advise others to do the same
 
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JCHC91 said:
Is the deposit usually refunded?

I'm telling the salesman that I'm no longer interested etc, he's scoffing and chuckling all the while saying maybe this bike isn't really for me if the insurance is that high (told him my father refuses to let me buy as a result of the insurance premiums) and since he can't refund, he kindly "suggests" that I look towards a Ninja 300 instead.

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Very professional

Roomie said:
I wouldn't buy a weed eater from them but that's my choice. I also don't care what site they sponsor it doesn't make them any good.
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Usually site sponsors are good people to deal with because they know that if they slip up they'll be blasted on here :lmao:

Suzuki of newmarket actually had their threads locked back in the days cause as soon as they posted anything they got torn to shreds.
Hopefully this wont be the case with kahuna...
 
Roomie said:
I'm still in as big a hurry to deal with them as son. Wouldn't willingly walk into either dealership.
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I know what you mean. Some shops/dealerships i wouldn't walk into if they were giving away free bikes...

Never had a problem with kahuna however, but then again i never purchased a bike from them. Just gear, parts and accessories.
 
As I am aware of their sponsorship on GTAMC, and with previous dealings with sponsors affiliated with a forum (car forum), I figured it would be a safe bet to rely on such dealer.

Like Paul1000RR said, usually sponsors are good to deal with people since happier forum = better business and reference.
 
All I can say is ,"Phew" thank God it is not SON. That would have been my first guess.

I have dealt with Kahuna and always found them to be excellent. Bought 3 bikes from them. Never a problem.

Good Luck.
 
JCHC91 said:
As I am aware of their sponsorship on GTAMC, and with previous dealings with sponsors affiliated with a forum (car forum), I figured it would be a safe bet to rely on such dealer.

Like Paul1000RR said, usually sponsors are good to deal with people since happier forum = better business and reference.
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[h=1]"A happy customer tells one friend, an unhappy customer tells everybody. [/h]
 
cycling said:
All I can say is ,"Phew" thank God it is not SON. That would have been my first guess.

I have dealt with Kahuna and always found them to be excellent. Bought 3 bikes from them. Never a problem.

Good Luck.
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Perhaps there is still hope then...
 
This is a little worrying considering that no one has really offered up a motorcycle dealer that has POSITIVE feedback... Only negatives

How do people get through buying a new bike if most dealers are just arseholes?
 
I dealt with Brampton Powersports. They were/are fantastic. Ian is one of the best sales guys I've ever dealt with and I've been in the auto industry since 94. That's saying a lot.

Edit:to add to that 2 personal friends also dealt there with nothing but positives to say. One was just last week and they went out of their way to make her experience a good one.
 
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JCHC91 said:
This is a little worrying considering that no one has really offered up a motorcycle dealer that has POSITIVE feedback... Only negatives

How do people get through buying a new bike if most dealers are just arseholes?
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There are some positive reviews in the reviews section.

Kahuna has had positive feedback in the past, thats why its a bit shocking how this situation was handled.

Everyone makes mistakes but the good dealerships/shops will go out of their way to fix a problem.

I personally think this is just a case of one sales person and not the whole dealership.

Only time will tell...
 
Roomie said:
I dealt with Brampton Powersports. They were/are fantastic. Ian is one of the best sales guys I've ever dealt with and I've been in the auto industry since 94. That's saying a lot.

Edit:to add to that 2 personal friends also dealt there with nothing but positives to say. One was just last week and they went out of their way to make her experience a good one.
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I will be keeping this in mind. If I get to the point in my life where I am able to do a cash purchase on a brand new toy then I'll go for this dealer.

There are some positive reviews in the reviews section.

Kahuna has had positive feedback in the past, thats why its a bit shocking how this situation was handled.

Everyone makes mistakes but the good dealerships/shops will go out of their way to fix a problem.

I personally think this is just a case of one sales person and not the whole dealership.

Only time will tell...
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Hearing this makes me feel very gutted.

Considering that they have received good feedback in the past makes me feel like I'm being tossed aside and the quality in the care of customers is going down the drain.

I do not know if it is the entire dealership as a whole, but this situation leaves an entirely sour feeling.

Since buying their accessories, gear and apparel leads to good conclusions, I think it is safe to say that it must be this salesman that is giving me such a hard time.

Now that I think about it, he never really tried to go out of his way to ease me into a sale. After he heard my insurance quote and I told him that I'd have to opt out, he continually edged me to "wait for Chris the financial guy and work out the terms with him" and after I told him "My father is adamant about not letting me buy this bike" he just told me to get a Ninja 300 instead.

All in all, the tone of voice was very condescending as well.
 
OP, why does the entire situation leave a sour feeling for you? I understand your point, but please keep in mind that deposits are there for a reason. Otherwise everybody would be running to BMW/MB and 'buying cars' only to back out of the deal on a change of heart...I had a similar situation where I wanted to back out, and the dealership wouldn't return my deposit but they were right. The car worked out great and I'm happy. I didn't bother fighting it, because deep down I knew it was the right decision in my case.

As for the dealer, he's not there to make you feel warm and fuzzy. He should try and put some effort into it, but in the end it is the client that controls the final transaction as it's your money. The assumption is that the client does all their research prior to going into a dealership to purchase the car / bike / snowmobile or whatever and should do all their due diligence prior to putting down the money. If the salesman forced you or pushed you towards the purchase, then that's definitely wrong, but once again...YOU decide on whether you put the money down or not.

I have sold cars for a few years as well, and each client is interested until it comes down to the money...then most get cold feet and leave, however the ones that stay 99.9% of the time go through with the transaction. I've refunded a deposit on such a client, because frankly it's not worth the hassle, and he sent two more clients my way because of it. So it's bad for business to not refund the deposit. Clients can be way more shadier / condescending than salespeople in my previous experience (10 years ago). However, looking at cars now I'm starting to hate dealing with sales guys because they do seem to put less effort into the client experience.

If he steered you towards the 300, then maybe you can use that deposit for the 300 instead of the ER6? You have nothing to lose by giving it a shot, and everything to gain. The longer you wait the harder it will be to change the deal.
 
mimico_polak said:
OP, why does the entire situation leave a sour feeling for you? I understand your point, but please keep in mind that deposits are there for a reason. Otherwise everybody would be running to BMW/MB and 'buying cars' only to back out of the deal on a change of heart...I had a similar situation where I wanted to back out, and the dealership wouldn't return my deposit but they were right. The car worked out great and I'm happy. I didn't bother fighting it, because deep down I knew it was the right decision in my case.

As for the dealer, he's not there to make you feel warm and fuzzy. He should try and put some effort into it, but in the end it is the client that controls the final transaction as it's your money. The assumption is that the client does all their research prior to going into a dealership to purchase the car / bike / snowmobile or whatever and should do all their due diligence prior to putting down the money. If the salesman forced you or pushed you towards the purchase, then that's definitely wrong, but once again...YOU decide on whether you put the money down or not.

I have sold cars for a few years as well, and each client is interested until it comes down to the money...then most get cold feet and leave, however the ones that stay 99.9% of the time go through with the transaction. I've refunded a deposit on such a client, because frankly it's not worth the hassle, and he sent two more clients my way because of it. So it's bad for business to not refund the deposit. Clients can be way more shadier / condescending than salespeople in my previous experience (10 years ago). However, looking at cars now I'm starting to hate dealing with sales guys because they do seem to put less effort into the client experience.

If he steered you towards the 300, then maybe you can use that deposit for the 300 instead of the ER6? You have nothing to lose by giving it a shot, and everything to gain. The longer you wait the harder it will be to change the deal.
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I understand that it is my fault that I decided to put down a deposit in the first place. However, it is a sour feeling because of the way he was condescending. Everything was rushed to the signature and I'm now regretting it. I now realize that buying a bike brand new is a bit of a foolish decision if you have plans to finance and not fully pay it out up front.

I also realize that the salesman is not there to make me feel warm and fuzzy as you say, but when I went back to the dealer today, the other salesman who helped me out was world's apart.

Although still sort of condescending (I guess that's the way they do it there), he went more out of his way to talk to the owner and the GM in regards to my contract. I have a feeling if it was the original guy, I'd get a "oh he's not here. I can't help you. Company policy".

Either way. I am now waiting on the GM for his call back since they have to wait for my original salesman to go into work before they can finalize a refund.
 
JCHC91 said:
I understand that it is my fault that I decided to put down a deposit in the first place. However, it is a sour feeling because of the way he was condescending. Everything was rushed to the signature and I'm now regretting it. I now realize that buying a bike brand new is a bit of a foolish decision if you have plans to finance and not fully pay it out up front.

I also realize that the salesman is not there to make me feel warm and fuzzy as you say, but when I went back to the dealer today, the other salesman who helped me out was world's apart.

Although still sort of condescending (I guess that's the way they do it there), he went more out of his way to talk to the owner and the GM in regards to my contract. I have a feeling if it was the original guy, I'd get a "oh he's not here. I can't help you. Company policy".

Either way. I am now waiting on the GM for his call back since they have to wait for my original salesman to go into work before they can finalize a refund.
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That's good. They much prefer a happy client, because as mentioned....as ****** off client tells EVERYONE and a happy one tells almost no one.

Good luck, and I think that going with the 300 would be easier than getting the deposit back outright. Salesman are people, maybe he didn't get any the night before and was ****** and took it out on you to feel better...who knows.

Personally I don't think buying a brand new bike and financing it is a foolish decision at all. I did it, and paid it off early when I had the cash. I didn't want a beat up bike, and with the market for used 250 bikes the way it is...it was stupid NOT to buy new!
 
I was contacted by the salesman from this morning and there was a discussion that occurred between my salesman and the GM. While the GM is unable to finalize the refund at the moment due to moving bikes around, the chances of me getting a refund are apparently 99.9%

Hopefully this is not to make me stop calling and that I will get a refund back. I will be calling again on Monday to follow up.
 
Well, good on Kahuna for refunding the deposit even though technically they don't have to. However, you're only human and people make mistakes and it would really show their true colours if they held that deposit. You'll defiantly never walk into a dealership again and have that itch to buy on the spot- I'm sure of that;). Now if you still are planning on getting a bike, I would NOT advise getting a brand new Ninja 300. I would instead just a take a step back and really think about your next purchase and how much you should spend- not how much you can afford.

I'm going to be "that guy" here (No I do not work for Suzuki lol) and would recommend Suzuki Of Newmarket to a SMART buyer. Reasons why?
1. IF you do your research on a bike, you can get a great deal through them but I would not finance with them, instead go with a bank but Im sure that's with any dealer.
2. Service, despite all the hate (and yeah, people defiantly have their reasons)I've had nothing but pleasant service there and at a fair price.
3. Parts, I order most of my goodies online but the odd time drop in to order a few things (air filter, clutch etc.) and it gets shipped within the next few days and they've always called to let me know.
 
Unless you are dealing with Rod at Kahuna, avoid it like the plague.
 
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