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The "Official" Watch Thread and all Things Horological

FullMotoJacket said:
I think the days of doubling your money on a Rolex (or any of the trinity, outside of extremely limited pieces) is pretty much over.
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Agreed, at least for the foreseeable future. A lot fewer folks running around with windfall cash, be it from start-ups or crypto, plus credit getting a lot tighter, both on rates and lenders willingness to extend. Anecdotally, there also seems to be growing pushback against Rolex's business model that implicitly encourages resellers to gouge.

Anyone with a mortgage up for renewal in the next few years is also going to have a lot less disposable income after they get whacked with a big bump on their housing costs. Maybe overseas demand will keep prices up somewhat, but even China is staring down the barrel of significantly reduced growth. And if Taiwan is invaded, that'll make things even tighter...

(I compare to the other 'collector' world I used to dabble in, vintage guitars and basses. Prices are finally starting to slip there, after what seemed to be endless exponential escalation. Another factor in that case is the boomers driving the market to buy that dream instrument have either already bought one or given up on buying one. The demand is shrinking as they die off or have other priorities in later retirement, and younger buyers don't have the same nostalgia for the '60s. I don't follow it as closely, but I believe the muscle car bubble has similarly burst.)
 
crankcall said:
I’ve been on a dive computer for 2 decades , and they just keep getting better . But I still wear a watch . It’s a belt and suspenders thing .

I’m looking seriously at a surface air pump with a 50ft hose , it would do 90% of what I need in Ontario

I’ve worn a Tudor submariner for years , it’s almost iconic , I’d like a Rolex sub, I just don’t want ( can’t ) part with 15k ( or more)


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A sub no date is the only Rolex I'd ever consider buying. But at msrp. So I guess I'll never own one. Thats fine.
The games dealers play selling stock out the back door, I have little interest in supporting. A grey dealer I deal with showed me a duffle bag full of Rolex's still in their plastic coffins. Had to buy a bunch of models that are hard to sell, just to get a selection of coveted sport models every one wants. So much BS.
 
The Rolex thing has certainly dipped , but I'm not sure it wont be a thing for a long time yet. But I'm often wrong. A no date Sub is excatly what I would buy , I guess the easy way is part with a few here to raise funds, but deciding who gets kicked out of the cabinet would be hard. I also hate the grey market game they run , the dealers say they hate when they sell a watch and see it 4 wks later on kijiji. Sure you hate that , mostly when the seller is your sister in law....
 
Much to my surprise, the King Samurai showed up today. Ebay tracking still shows it having just cleared customs...

Zero disappointment here. I was looking to pick up a Seiko dive-style watch and was cross-shopping various turtle models, but Samurais kept showing up. The design started growing on me, and when I made what I thought was a low-ball offer to an Ebay seller for a Japanese model (new King Samurais are made in Malaysia), I was happily surprised when they accepted...

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I'm ambivalent about the cyclops, but the rest is bang on and nicely assembled. Alignment isn't an issue, which can't be said about a lot of recent Seikos. Getting the King over a regular gets you a sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel, along with the waffle dial. It's got some heft (which I actually like), and otherwise wears nicely. It looks smaller on the wrist than the photo would suggest, too.

Between the Fugu, the Laco, and this, it's been a busy month, but I'm over the moon with all three. I'm thinking a vintage Longines dress watch might be next. Or a Hamilton Intra Matic (the super clean one without a second hand). Or a Junghans Max Bill with markers only....
 
mimico_polak said:
That’s a sweet *** watch @Priller. I like the SEIKOS.
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Thanks! And I agree on both counts!

(Although I have come to respect Citizen a lot more lately as a volume Japanese maker. Had mostly ignored them as makers of busily designed and oversized mall watches. While they do have lots of that, they also have a lot of really cool watches buried in their lineup. The QC is exemplary for the price point, which is something Seiko still struggles with. On top of that, they own a group of other brands - including Alpina, Bulova, Frederique Constant and others - that they mostly seem to leave alone to do their own thing, unlike Swatch.)
 
Priller said:
Thanks! And I agree on both counts!

(Although I have come to respect Citizen a lot more lately as a volume Japanese maker. Had mostly ignored them as makers of busily designed and oversized mall watches. While they do have lots of that, they also have a lot of really cool watches buried in their lineup. The QC is exemplary for the price point, which is something Seiko still struggles with. On top of that, they own a group of other brands - including Alpina, Bulova, Frederique Constant and others - that they mostly seem to leave alone to do their own thing, unlike Swatch.)
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I really like the ecodrive movement Citizen uses. I have three of them and they just keep going. I’ve accidentally left one for months in a dark room and a day on a window ledge sorted it out. Fit and finish on all of them is fantastic for the price. Atomic radio timekeeping is great on some models too.

I like Seikos and have a couple of those but prices have gone a bit wild. A base model Seiko 5 is selling for about 350-400 now and that’s a bit wild.
 
jc100 said:
I really like the ecodrive movement Citizen uses. I have three of them and they just keep going. I’ve accidentally left one for months in a dark room and a day on a window ledge sorted it out. Fit and finish on all of them is fantastic for the price. Atomic radio timekeeping is great on some models too.

I like Seikos and have a couple of those but prices have gone a bit wild. A base model Seiko 5 is selling for about 350-400 now and that’s a bit wild.
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My son has an Eco-Drive he received as a gift that sat in the box in a closet for 7+ years. He eventually dug it out, and similarly let it sit on a window sill for a few days. Runs great now and he wears it everyday. I suspect the capacitor will need replaced a lot sooner than it otherwise would have, but still, impressive.

As for Seiko pricing, it's all over the map. Deals can still be had, but it usually means grey market dealing. I was quite surprised to get a warranty card with the one I received yesterday. They massively overcharge for some popular models (see anything with 'Willard' in the name), but that's hardly unique in the business...
 
jc100 said:
I really like the ecodrive movement Citizen uses. I have three of them and they just keep going. I’ve accidentally left one for months in a dark room and a day on a window ledge sorted it out. Fit and finish on all of them is fantastic for the price. Atomic radio timekeeping is great on some models too.

I like Seikos and have a couple of those but prices have gone a bit wild. A base model Seiko 5 is selling for about 350-400 now and that’s a bit wild.
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I do too have Citizen EcoDrive Chronometer Titanium Perpetual Calendar with Sapphire Glass - bought it when was looking for job and this was the best looking watch for tie and suit I could afford back then :)

Now this watch is around 15ish years old, AND still accurate and ticking like the first day I have it (1 sec ahead a month)! I dug it out a couple years back - it stopped - took 2 days on the window to charge and it got back to life, no need for a new capacitor so far after so many years. Japan watches FTW :)
 
Not a good evening back in watch modding land.

I bought a new dial, hands, and movement ring for my Seiko SKX. At some point while swapping out the movement ring I've mangled something in the movement and now have no ability to change the day/date. At first I couldn't change the time and day/date, but messing around with the stem got the time working normal again. I pulled the day wheel off and all looks fine, but I'm no watch magician. No clue whats wrong with it or even how I did it, maybe holding buy the day or date wheels while swapping the ring? I thought maybe the stem is messed but I swapped in a spare stem and no change. It's all back together now at least and looks good that the dial is black now.

On the bright side I have a spare NH35A movement that I could swap in as long as the day wheel fits like I expect it to. Tomorrows problem.

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48Connor said:
Not a good evening back in watch modding land.

I bought a new dial, hands, and movement ring for my Seiko SKX. At some point while swapping out the movement ring I've mangled something in the movement and now have no ability to change the day/date. At first I couldn't change the time and day/date, but messing around with the stem got the time working normal again. I pulled the day wheel off and all looks fine, but I'm no watch magician. No clue whats wrong with it or even how I did it, maybe holding buy the day or date wheels while swapping the ring? I thought maybe the stem is messed but I swapped in a spare stem and no change. It's all back together now at least and looks good that the dial is black now.

On the bright side I have a spare NH35A movement that I could swap in as long as the day wheel fits like I expect it to. Tomorrows problem.

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Have you just lost quick set or does day/date no longer advance with hands?
 
I was so close tossing all this sh*t out and calling it a day...

BUT I got a gear swapped over from my spare NH35A movement and IT WORKS!!!

I hope I never have to touch this watch again
 
48Connor said:
I was so close tossing all this sh*t out and calling it a day...

BUT I got a gear swapped over from my spare NH35A movement and IT WORKS!!!

I hope I never have to touch this watch again
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jfc I put the faceplate on, went to change the date, and nothing works. Took the faceplate back off, and the new gear is broken.... F*CK
 
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