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The Bad Drivers of Ontario Thread

Mikedezo44 said:
Had to drive into oncoming lane this morning as a dumb transport truck driver got his truck stuck under this bridge in downtown Hamilton. Clearance wasn't even close, no chance it was getting through. Not the first time this has happened. I was one of first to come up on it, wondering if he got charged or not. He was calmly sitting in his truck on the phone, if was me would've been frantically taking air out of the tires to get out before cop showed up :ROFLMAO:

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While obviously not in Ontario, two separate dump trucks hit bridges on Hwy 1 in BC yesterday. One then fully burned while under the bridge. Hope he has good insurance as that could easily be an eight figure bill.
 
I don't know if they fixed it or not but the bridge (RR overpass) on Royal York, south of Evans Ave was a misnomer. The sign said low bridge so drivers would inch there way to see if they cleared and if the did, they floored it.

The truth was it was two bridges and heading south the second one was a couple of inches lower. I knew a guy that put a sun roof in a 40 foot trailer.

Similarly, driving a flatbed under a low bridge isn't usually a problem, unless you have a lumberyard forklift truck on the flatbed. The mast hit the bridge, the hydraulic load tilt rods bent into an S shape, the tires blew out and the wheels drove through the wooden deck of the trailer. Good tie down chains.
 
GreyGhost said:
While obviously not in Ontario, two separate dump trucks hit bridges on Hwy 1 in BC yesterday. One then fully burned while under the bridge. Hope he has good insurance as that could easily be an eight figure bill.
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Didn't some diesel tanker driver damage the 401 bridge near Milton a few years back?

The town of Milton, Ontario renamed Fourth Line (in the former Trafalgar Township) James Snow Parkway (Halton Regional Road 4), with initial approval for an interchange with Highway 401 coming in 1979.[8] It was upgraded in the early 1980s to become a major arterial road, and is in the process of being extended on both north and south ends. The overpass of the James Snow Parkway at Highway 401 was damaged in 1986 when it was hit by a fuel tanker that caught fire, necessitating that the bridge deck be entirely replaced.
 
A former manager of mine rolled the front end of a rental box truck up, like the lid on a sardine can, down in Lincoln County. He had a load of computers in the truck and was delivering them, with my friend/coworker in the passenger sear. High truck, low train bridge. Of course he was also drunk at the time. He always seemed to be drunk on the job, though I never saw him take a drink.
 
nobbie48 said:
Similarly, driving a flatbed under a low bridge isn't usually a problem, unless you have a lumberyard forklift truck on the flatbed. The mast hit the bridge, the hydraulic load tilt rods bent into an S shape, the tires blew out and the wheels drove through the wooden deck of the trailer. Good tie down chains.
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Last summer I was riding my bike over the Lincoln Alexander Parkway in Hamilton, just before I went over the bridge heard a MASSIVE smash... Look over and see metal bits and hydraulic fluid all over the place...then the big crane mast from one of the shingle delivery trucks laid out on the highway. Oops. Lucky the lady in the small Toyota Yaris behind it didn't get killed but could tell she was shaken up and was checked out by paramedics. I don't think it caused enough bridge damage for any engineering surveys or anything as it was back open a few hours later.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
A former manager of mine rolled the front end of a rental box truck up, like the lid on a sardine can, down in Lincoln County. He had a load of computers in the truck and was delivering them, with my friend/coworker in the passenger sear. High truck, low train bridge. Of course he was also drunk at the time. He always seemed to be drunk on the job, though I never saw him take a drink.
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Could you get off a DUI charge by identifying as a sober person. "Identifying" seems to work for everything else.
 
Another human life lost to save the life of an animal. It will be interesting to see if there are any charges laid. It would also be interesting to know whether the person that caused the crash would do anything different next time. Sadly, we probably know the answer to that already.

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GreyGhost said:
Another human life lost to save the life of an animal. It will be interesting to see if there are any charges laid. It would also be interesting to know whether the person that caused the crash would do anything different next time. Sadly, we probably know the answer to that already.

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I’d stop for a dog. Just replace dog with kid and that’s the situation with me. What’s the speed limit on that road? Depends if old lady put her four ways on or not and whether driver behind was paying attention.
 
jc100 said:
I’d stop for a dog. Just replace dog with kid and that’s the situation with me. What’s the speed limit on that road? Depends if old lady put her four ways on or not and whether driver behind was paying attention.
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I'm going with the Mercedes driver not paying attention and went unabated into the quarterback, as it were.
 
Soulcatcher668 said:
I'm going with the Mercedes driver not paying attention and went unabated into the quarterback, as it were.
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While true that caused the death, if the original car hadn't stopped for the animal, the death would have been avoided. Same situation as duck lady in quebec. While people should be paying attention, anytime you are stopped in a live lane, danger is incredibly high.
 
Soulcatcher668 said:
I'm going with the Mercedes driver not paying attention and went unabated into the quarterback, as it were.
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But there were only minor injuries to all the others. I’m going with medical distress. Unfortunate, but not a result of physical trauma from the impact
 
GreyGhost said:
Another human life lost to save the life of an animal. It will be interesting to see if there are any charges laid. It would also be interesting to know whether the person that caused the crash would do anything different next time. Sadly, we probably know the answer to that already.

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Knee jerk reactions:

A couple of years ago on a drive down Niagara way I had to scream at my wife to get off the F****** road when she did the "Oh look, a bunny" on a curve in the road.

A super nice older gent I knew lamented that his son-in-law would never be the same after a woman swerved to miss a dog and caused a head on collision.

Years back a couple with their two kids in the back seat stopped to let some cute baby geese cross highway 50. A dump truck, coming over the hill couldn't stop in time. Two dead and two seriously injured, all over one of our biggest pests.

A very common occurrence is swerving to avoid a lane incursion by a bad driver and hitting an innocent one. The one actually causing the crash didn't make contact and carries on. I wonder how may fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes were caused by lane incursions and the rider couldn't correct his track.

Stopping in normal textbook traffic is simple. Step on the brake. In heavy or erratic traffic there are a lot of mental calculations because we don't have the textbook spacing and lane control.

Learning to drive and getting my chauffeur's licence ages ago panic stops were never required. It was learn on the job. In getting my M I had to demonstrate a panic stop. Our licensing system is pathetic.
 
nobbie48 said:
Knee jerk reactions:

A couple of years ago on a drive down Niagara way I had to scream at my wife to get off the F****** road when she did the "Oh look, a bunny" on a curve in the road.

A super nice older gent I knew lamented that his son-in-law would never be the same after a woman swerved to miss a dog and caused a head on collision.

Years back a couple with their two kids in the back seat stopped to let some cute baby geese cross highway 50. A dump truck, coming over the hill couldn't stop in time. Two dead and two seriously injured, all over one of our biggest pests.

A very common occurrence is swerving to avoid a lane incursion by a bad driver and hitting an innocent one. The one actually causing the crash didn't make contact and carries on. I wonder how may fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes were caused by lane incursions and the rider couldn't correct his track.

Stopping in normal textbook traffic is simple. Step on the brake. In heavy or erratic traffic there are a lot of mental calculations because we don't have the textbook spacing and lane control.

Learning to drive and getting my chauffeur's licence ages ago panic stops were never required. It was learn on the job. In getting my M I had to demonstrate a panic stop. Our licensing system is pathetic.
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Family of geese and a stupid driver caused another crash near Windsor. Driver that stopped in a live lane for geese got a careless charge.

 
GreyGhost said:
Family of geese and a stupid driver caused another crash near Windsor. Driver that stopped in a live lane for geese got a careless charge.

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Stopping for animals is always just plain stupid, however, I have to question where the second drivers attention was turned to.

If the first driver was able to see geese on the road and stop, how the F did the second driver not notice an entire car in their lane?
 
DownUnder said:
Stopping for animals is always just plain stupid, however, I have to question where the second drivers attention was turned to.

If the first driver was able to see geese on the road and stop, how the F did the second driver not notice an entire car in their lane?
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Normally it's the third or fourth driver that crashes. Driver one brakes hard but maybe not with everything. Driver two gives it all they have as they didn't see it coming. This gets worse for each vehicle that is only watching the one directly in front of them. Eventually you get to a driver that can't even touch the brakes in the time between seeing the car in front dive and slamming into them. If the vehicle a few back is a truck, they may be in trouble no matter how on the ball the driver is. Sometimes there is no viable escape path. If someone has to be crushed, choosing the person that stopped for a goose seems like a better choice than other nearby vehicles or pedestrians.
 
nobbie48 said:
Knee jerk reactions:

A couple of years ago on a drive down Niagara way I had to scream at my wife to get off the F****** road when she did the "Oh look, a bunny" on a curve in the road.

A super nice older gent I knew lamented that his son-in-law would never be the same after a woman swerved to miss a dog and caused a head on collision.

Years back a couple with their two kids in the back seat stopped to let some cute baby geese cross highway 50. A dump truck, coming over the hill couldn't stop in time. Two dead and two seriously injured, all over one of our biggest pests.

A very common occurrence is swerving to avoid a lane incursion by a bad driver and hitting an innocent one. The one actually causing the crash didn't make contact and carries on. I wonder how may fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes were caused by lane incursions and the rider couldn't correct his track.

Stopping in normal textbook traffic is simple. Step on the brake. In heavy or erratic traffic there are a lot of mental calculations because we don't have the textbook spacing and lane control.

Learning to drive and getting my chauffeur's licence ages ago panic stops were never required. It was learn on the job. In getting my M I had to demonstrate a panic stop. Our licensing system is pathetic.
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Some years ago I was riding on Forks of the Credit Road, in the middle of the week, when I had a day off. I was riding westbound and came around the first corner after the switchback then surprised a couple of "leafers" who had parked their minivan in the middle of the road, so that they could "Oooo... Ahhh" at the trees from the side of the road, by splitting the difference between them and their vehicle at a 45 degree lean angle.

Once had a friend (now former) who loudly and repeatedly proclaimed that he had never had a car accident. He did not even pretend to follow the rules of the road and was NOT a good driver. I finally got tired of this and simply said, "Have you ever looked behind you?" He was not pleased, but the comment was bang-on.
 
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GreyGhost said:
This gets worse for each vehicle that is only watching the one directly in front of them.
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That’s why you have to look beyond the car you are following, like 3-4 cars ahead. And give extra space if you are behind a car with tinted or no windows. But hey, it’s Ontario, people have no idea how to drive here.
 
Maniac said:
That’s why you have to look beyond the car you are following, like 3-4 cars ahead. And give extra space if you are behind a car with tinted or no windows. But hey, it’s Ontario, people have no idea how to drive here.
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It certainly doesn't help that the 'average' vehicle on the road is now the size and height of a delivery van, rather than a normal passenger car.
 
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