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The Bad Drivers of Ontario Thread

In Barrie last week someone turned left in front of an oncoming dump truck with trailer. No major injuries. Road was closed for hours. Car driver got a $110 turn not in safety ticket. wtf. Why bother investigating at all if that's all you're going to hand out. There was a crash with video, careless should have been the minimum charge laid.
Exactly, In this instance, so many people inconvenienced due to one person being an idiot. I've been stuck on the 400 for hours with 100's of other people because "Joey Camaro" likes to speed and change lanes without looking...
 
Toronto Mount Pleasant and Bloor. Tow Truck. Stop sign. Dead pedestrian. Sadly not surprised.

Terrible ramp design; not sure why it wasn't closed years ago. You can't see northbound traffic if you stop at the stop bar and if you pull out far enough to see, you are blocking the pedestrian crossing and risking being clipped by northbound traffic, which is usually speeding.
 
401 Eastbound just after Cornwall. Tractor trailer crashed onto railway tracks. If you were wondering what was holding up your train yesterday.
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401 Eastbound just after Cornwall. Tractor trailer crashed onto railway tracks. If you were wondering what was holding up your train yesterday.
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Were they also driving into oncoming traffic? Railing is messed up on wrong side.
 
Were they also driving into oncoming traffic? Railing is messed up on wrong side.
Maybe he skidded a 180 into and over the guardrail. I'd expect more damage if he rolled it, but maybe not.
Hopefully, there's not a compact car underneath him, or a train coming.

All I know for certain is: "You can't park there mate!".
 
Maybe he skidded a 180 into and over the guardrail. I'd expect more damage if he rolled it, but maybe not.
Hopefully, there's not a compact car underneath him, or a train coming.

All I know for certain is: "You can't park there mate!".
It's hard to tell what happened from one pic. Even if they had managed to do a 180, momentum should have been in original direction. It approaches impossible to get over a guard rail and reverse direction of travel (although if it was on its wheels when it landed, driver may have been able to power it forward but after jumping a tractor trailer, that seems highly implausible).
 
It's hard to tell what happened from one pic. Even if they had managed to do a 180, momentum should have been in original direction. It approaches impossible to get over a guard rail and reverse direction of travel (although if it was on its wheels when it landed, driver may have been able to power it forward but after jumping a tractor trailer, that seems highly implausible).

i have a feeling he came off the road further down towards where the image was taken from, then hit that far guard rail before falling into the ditch.
 
Terrible ramp design; not sure why it wasn't closed years ago. You can't see northbound traffic if you stop at the stop bar and if you pull out far enough to see, you are blocking the pedestrian crossing and risking being clipped by northbound traffic, which is usually speeding.
A huge pile of our infrastructure was anchored in place long before cars and pedestrians had cell / text phones. Cars had simple radios and no coffee holders or lunch trays. Nothing back then allowed for the numerous e-everythings. Expect the collisions to continue.

Northbound traffic, as noted, is often pouring on the coals after coming around the curve and the Bloor Street bridge partly blocking the view doesn't help.

Sturdy roof pillars to protect drivers in case of a roll over also block more of the view. A safety trade off along with head rests.

One fact is that the latest Google picture shows bushes concealing any person approaching from the north and the person would be hidden from the truck until the last moment. An unknown factor is the speed of the pedestrian, walking / jogging / running as that would affect the drivers available reaction time. Similarly did the truck assume nothing coming and roll through?

#1 cheap fix, trim the bushes and a more open guard rail on the bridge.
 
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A huge pile of our infrastructure was anchored in place long before cars and pedestrians had cell / text phones. Cars had simple radios and no coffee holders or lunch trays. Nothing back then allowed for the numerous e-everythings. Expect the collisions to continue.

Northbound traffic, as noted, is often pouring on the coals after coming around the curve and the Bloor Street bridge block the view doesn't help.

Sturdy roof pillars to protect drivers in case of a roll over also block more of the view.

One fact is that the latest Google picture shows bushes concealing any person approaching from the north and the person would be hidden from the truck until the last moment. An unknown factor is the speed of the pedestrian, walking / jogging / running as that would affect the drivers available reaction time. Similarly did the truck assume nothing coming and roll through?

#1 cheap fix, trim the bushes and a more open guard rail on the bridge.
It has the added problem of the acute angle. Assuming the driver was trying to pay attention (admittedly a stretch for most tow truck drivers), if you are looking over your shoulder for a hole in fast traffic, a pedestrian crossing right to left is in a very vulnerable position. Vehicle often jumps at the hole and by the time their eyes swing back to forward, the pedestrian is already hit. I won't walk in front of a vehicle in those situations. I walk behind it. Moving pedestrian crossing back one vehicle length solves this issue (assuming pedestrians bothered to follow new path which they wouldn't unless there was a wall forcing them to).
 
It has the added problem of the acute angle. Assuming the driver was trying to pay attention (admittedly a stretch for most tow truck drivers), if you are looking over your shoulder for a hole in fast traffic, a pedestrian crossing right to left is in a very vulnerable position. Vehicle often jumps at the hole and by the time their eyes swing back to forward, the pedestrian is already hit. I won't walk in front of a vehicle in those situations. I walk behind it. Moving pedestrian crossing back one vehicle length solves this issue (assuming pedestrians bothered to follow new path which they wouldn't unless there was a wall forcing them to).
And the pedestrian that just went from left to right and is assumed to be clear of your vehicle suddenly remembers something and does and instant U turn. Surprise
 
Cornwall from a different angle:
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I'm thinking now that he must have taken out the guardrail further down,
and then missed going into oncoming traffic by hitting that black spot on the bridge in the below photo.
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Public transit was feeling left out. Killed someone to make sure they made it to this thread.


One person is dead and at least eight others are being taken to hospital following a massive crash in Mississauga.

Video also shows a MiWay bus with a smashed windshield, which police say continued through a red light just before the crash.

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Video released. Bus 100% at fault. Cannonballed through stopped traffic. Medical incident? Bus driver suspended pending investigation.

 
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I hope that resulted in a report to police though, given my own experience, I doubt that it would come to anything.
If both drivers were guilty of something would either surrender their dash cams?

Truck makes inadvertent lane change

Car does brake check

Truck retaliates

World War Three originates in Brampton
 
If both drivers were guilty of something would either surrender their dash cams?

Truck makes inadvertent lane change

Car does brake check

Truck retaliates

World War Three originates in Brampton
Likely not, but a third party certainly could. I have, on several occasions, and certainly would have done so in this case.

You do, however, bring up a good point. Since I used to post a lot of driving videos, myself, I've been following several of those aggregation channels on Youtube. In maybe 75% of the first person posted videos I see that the cammer has also done something. Typically it's relatively minor, like not anticipating something obvious that's about to happen or sitting in someone's blind spot. Quite frequently, however, the cammer does something to escalate the situation. Gets cut off and then proceeds to cut off the other driver. Leans on the horn for 30 seconds, well after the initiating incident is over. Accelerates to block someone from getting over into 'their' lane. These people obviously think that they are right in what they are doing, despite it being wrong and amplifying the issue.
 
A huge pile of our infrastructure was anchored in place long before cars and pedestrians had cell / text phones. Cars had simple radios and no coffee holders or lunch trays. Nothing back then allowed for the numerous e-everythings. Expect the collisions to continue.

Northbound traffic, as noted, is often pouring on the coals after coming around the curve and the Bloor Street bridge partly blocking the view doesn't help.

Sturdy roof pillars to protect drivers in case of a roll over also block more of the view. A safety trade off along with head rests.

One fact is that the latest Google picture shows bushes concealing any person approaching from the north and the person would be hidden from the truck until the last moment. An unknown factor is the speed of the pedestrian, walking / jogging / running as that would affect the drivers available reaction time. Similarly did the truck assume nothing coming and roll through?

#1 cheap fix, trim the bushes and a more open guard rail on the bridge.
If the problem really is old infrastructure, than can someone please explain this "modern" change to the South Kingsway to Queensway ramp:

They made the change to accomodate a new bike lane along the Queensway and removing the one along the S. Kingsway sidewalk. They had a chain link fence along the edge of the sidewalk before it was removed. But the new stop sign and stop bar, mean that you're trying to look through a concrete bridge at a sharp angle to see traffic, unless you move out into the pedestrian crossing and bicycle path. It was worse, as the railing and concrete used to come to a point.
 
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If the problem really is old infrastructure, than can someone please explain this "modern" change to the South Kingsway to Queensway ramp:

They made the change to accomodate a new bike lane along the Queensway and removing the one along the S. Kingsway sidewalk. They had a chain link fence along the edge of the sidewalk before it was removed. But the new stop sign and stop bar, mean that you're trying to look through a concrete bridge at a sharp angle to see traffic, unless you move out into the pedestrian crossing and bicycle path. It was worse, as the railing and concrete used to come to a point.
That one at South Kingsway is just the war on the car way of doing things.

It was determined that a bike lane was needed, so all other factors are secondary. You can't have a nice smooth yield and merge lane if there is a bike lane in between.

It's our way now, the majority must be made to suffer for the smallest of minority groups.
 

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