Just like with motor vehicles proper testing and licensing can't stop every incident but proper regulation and training plays a big part in all of our safety as a society. Many on this forum complain that licensing and testing isn't strict enough for vehicles due to their safety being put at risk with bad drivers. That is exactly how I feel about gun control.
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Just like with motor vehicles proper testing and licensing can't stop every incident but proper regulation and training plays a big part in all of our safety as a society. Many on this forum complain that licensing and testing isn't strict enough for vehicles due to their safety being put at risk with bad drivers. That is exactly how I feel about gun control.
Nice avoidance, did not see a NUMBER of dead kids in schools that you are comfortable with per year....
BTW, the death rate numbers in the US for murder and suicide are heavily gun weighted as well. What is happening is just an extension of another overall problem.
The tightest restrictions on guns in the UK in decades was enacted after the shootings in Dunblane in Scotland. No serious mass shootings in the UK for 20+ years since. Prior to that we had two mass shootings (legally owned handguns) within one decade.
We certainly have some proof that sensible restrictions work.
Yes, and some here and pretty much the entire US cannot understand that. It is all about sensible restrictions and culture change not outright bans.
The transport regulations were have in Canada are largely bogus. If you pass the test and background checks to get a possession and acquisition licence, why are there further regulations requiring authorizations to transport? Why do simple 'administrative' errors result in law-abiding citizens becoming criminals? You forget a trigger lock, or you store one bullet where you're not supposed to, and you face CRIMINAL CHARGES. You use your firearm in self-defense in your own home and you get dragged through the courts for the next 2 years, fighting for your life and freedom? And you can't see why Americans fight to keep gun controls to a minimum? They're afraid to wind up like us.
Gun owners are indeed punished by storage and transport regulations. I don't disagree with the gun controls we have in Canada (not entirely, anyway) but the punishments are so laughably out of proportion to any reason and logic that I can't label it anything but oppression.
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Obama passes matter over to biden to draft up proposals, then there will be a push for change to whom? Oh, a republican controlled congress, an area the republicans entrenchly support, and an area which is enshrined in the constitution. Time will shift the focus elsewhere and this will all blow over and amount to zero change in the US.
Problems with gun in the US?
Naaaaaaaah,,
Just today :
Child finds loaded semi automatic gun in Oregon theater during field trip
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...f/2012/12/tillamook_student_at_hobbit_sh.html
http://www.ktvb.com/news/regional/C...egon-theater-during-field-trip-184160671.html
Naaaaaaaah,,
Just today :
Child finds loaded semi automatic gun in Oregon theater during field trip
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...f/2012/12/tillamook_student_at_hobbit_sh.html
http://www.ktvb.com/news/regional/C...egon-theater-during-field-trip-184160671.html
It will be sold under the guise that if you block it you support killing children and like terrorists.
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Yeah right, Obama is brushing this matter aside, that's why he passed it over to biden to get a proposal to go to a republican controlled congress. Everyone knows the congress is powerless to change or pass laws to enshrined in the constitution. Canadian simpletons don't comprehend what a constitution is, nor what it takes to create one. The war of independence and the confederate war is what it took in the US. How did Canada get it's constitution? Rhetorical, it's apparent as it is shown in how Canada is governed. All presidents pledge allegiance to the constitution, Obama has no legs on this and he knows it, so he will downplay and do whatever to shift focus the public elsewhere. As I said this is a security issue. What will come is tightened school security and surveillance systems.
Actually the constitution and the second amendment that you're talking about is for the right of militias to bear arms (conveniently overlooked by most gun nuts in the US) but don't let semantics get in the way of your argument as we're only simpletons here.
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Did I say all? I stated there are simpletons in Canada, are you ascribing yourself as one? The point is, it is not as clear as implementing a law or a government act as it will be challenged in the courts if not already. If it has, the law will be thrown out. Obama has no power to implement or pass laws. The only power he has is to install security and surveillance to the schools, which is what will likely occur.
In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two landmark decisions concerning the Second Amendment. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home
Uh, read the bloody post you quoted. Those "reasonable" regulations can send a person to prison for a longer time than most gangbangers spend locked up. And for what, forgetting to mail in a piece of paper, or getting robbed of your guns and by default being charged with unsafe storage?
Thats not reasonable.
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You're expecting reasonable from anti gun zealots? Good luck with that.
If you form a militia "armed" with flashlights and whistles, all you got is a neighborhood watch
Where do I get Wendy's Kool Aid anyway? Seems like its laced with some pretty good stuff
[video=youtube;YIdfUhDJL3c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIdfUhDJL3c&feature=player_embedded[/video]
Hope that's not me you're aiming that at? I'm far from an anti-gun zealot...I am anti-paranoid stupidity though.
I wouldn’t be posting this, but I did notice something strange about most of the news coverage that day.
I did catch that interview with the boy stating he say cops handcuffing someone in black while most news outlets said the shooter was dead.
Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_fI0hm1dqY
I did catch that interview with the boy stating he say cops handcuffing someone in black while most news outlets said the shooter was dead.
Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_fI0hm1dqY
In that case you may wanna go against the paranoid stupidity being whipped up by the anti-gun lobby as we speak
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