RIM Playbook. Limited sale... $200

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mmmnaked said:
How in the world does a native email client force the device to require a data plan? Please step aside.

Heavy HEAVY Blackberry fanboyism up in this thread! lol can't stop laughing... mainly because I keep picturing Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis every time I read your guys posts, then it makes RIM failing even funnier.
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I don't get it.

I mean, here you are taking a puzzling delight in a company on the ropes, that really has no great affect on one's everyday life, and insulting other people on the forum for making a choice different than yours. You really need to grow up a bit. Do you actually have any real friends with your smug, condescending attitude?
 
DJM said:
I don't get it.

I mean, here you are taking a puzzling delight in a company on the ropes, that really has no great affect on one's everyday life, and insulting other people on the forum for making a choice different than yours. You really need to grow up a bit. Do you actually have any real friends with your smug, condescending attitude?
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I know...he's starting to sound like a white supremacist who hates black.......berrys. :)
 
Im very intolerant of the Black(berries)

And yes I like it when corporations lead by morons fail for continuous and repetitive incompetence. Oh well. ;)

It's especially sweet because I was an avid BB user and supporter and they failed me.
 
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mmmnaked said:
Im very intolerant of the Black(berries)

And yes I like it when corporations lead by morons fail for continuous and repetitive incompetence. Oh well. ;)

It's especially sweet because I was an avid BB user and supporter and they failed me.
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Sounds like someone didn't get hired at RIM. Poor bastard.
 
mmmnaked said:
Balsillie didn't let me play for his hockey team :(
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In his defense, I believe that skating is one of the requirements; Unless you meant his ball hockey team?

So you are a disgruntled non employee?
 
killerkeith said:

RIM did a great job enhancing the Blackberry experience withthe Playbook.
In other words, it’s pointless to get upset over condoms you refuse to buy as they won’t deliver the same experience as my condoms. That's because mine come with a woman to complete the condom buying experience. The playbook and blackberry phone are the quintessential condom and women experience. You shouldn’t have one without the other. Since neither seem to be in your immediate future it’s time to quit while your ahead.
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omg, you hit the nail on the head...this is exactly what i've been trying to explain to people...you buy a playbook (rim condom), and you tether it with your blackberry (rim woman) because that is the only way it works. you have to use both together, because that playbook with not work with anything else other than a blackberry device. having a rim condom can only be used with a rim woman, nothing else...thank you...

and for all those using gmail app on your blackberry, google ain't developing it any further, nice...the nice thing about the app is that i can perform a search and it searches EVERYTHING in my gmail, the native app on blackberry doesn't, just searches what it downloads, however, if you want to email a picture from your device using your gmail address, having the app installed won't help, you need the native app setup to access it...stupid...

one of rims arguments over the email issue on the playbook is security...who wants to make bets they don't fix it by v2.0 getting released early next year?
 
SunnY S said:
Anyways, whatever RIMs strategy is with the Playbook pricing.... who cares? Its a steal and a quality product at $200 whether you wish to believe this or not.
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Thing is, RIM did not set that sale price. RIM sells their products wholesale to all the various retailers, such as Staples. RIM receives all the money up front before their products hit the shelves. Once they are paid for, the store then sets the retail price, in this case $200. RIM has nothing to do with the retail price of its products, they've already been paid wholesale.

As for multiple retailers offering the same RIM product for the same sale price, I have no idea how that comes about, but there are several conspiracy theorists here that might.
 
Not likely, RIM sets the MSRP however as you see, strong brands like Apple, PS3 etc, do not support the discounting of their products unless there is a brand sponsored promotion. They most likely control this through very small margins for the re-seller who earns a "hold-back" credit once volume levels are attained.

This is clearly a promotion supported by RIM as they re-position the product, this sale is a way of testing the waters and you will see that the MSRP will be adjusted on the next version to reflect a new MSRP. RIM have either lowered their dealer Net prices or are issuing credits after the sale. The Dealer Net margins are not large enough to accommodate the $300 price drop or retailers would have been selling them at lower prices weeks after the introduction. It is a great deal and I like mine especially bridged with my BlackBerry.
 
Absolutely, no doubt that RIM is behind the price drop. It's not something a retailer decided.
 
mmmnaked said:
How in the world does a native email client force the device to require a data plan? Please step aside.

Heavy HEAVY Blackberry fanboyism up in this thread! lol can't stop laughing... mainly because I keep picturing Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis every time I read your guys posts, then it makes RIM failing even funnier.[/QUOTE


Nice to know that you respect other people's opinion tells the forum certainly gives an indication of your character. I use the playbook for business use as our company only used blackberry because of the security and control something which Apple does not have. I am on the road 70% of the time and to pay for a data plan for my tablet as oppose to using my BB data plan does not make economical sense. The need for a native client on a tablet means extra data plan. As an example one of our sales rep has a IPAD and he can only download his email and read presentation slide when he has a wifi connect which I do not need. Why pay the extra cost when I can use my Blackberry data plan does not make economic sense because I am not an APP or apple loyalist. I have an IPAD also and since I have gotten the playbook the IPAD is rarely used.

Yes maybe I am partial to blackberry not because they are a Canadian content but because of the security they offer so for business professional who require security the playbook is a good option regardless of the native email. The playbook was developed as a business tablet which has apps that support an interface into Oracle and Sharepoint which for a business executive is invaluable to review daily KPI. Not sure if this explanation is above your comprehension but that is the basis for me using the playbook.
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killerkeith said:
In your circle of super geek friends, how many of you leave the house (parents basement) with a tablet device and not have your smart phone with you?[/QU

Probaly only carry the smart phone as a dedicated dataplan cost money unless they chose to hang out at Starbucks and McDonalds.
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mmmnaked said:
How in the world does a native email client force the device to require a data plan? Please step aside.

Heavy HEAVY Blackberry fanboyism up in this thread! lol can't stop laughing... mainly because I keep picturing Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis every time I read your guys posts, then it makes RIM failing even funnier.[/QUOTE


Nice to know that you respect other people's opinion tells the forum certainly gives an indication of your character. I use the playbook for business use as our company only used blackberry because of the security and control something which Apple does not have. I am on the road 70% of the time and to pay for a data plan for my tablet as oppose to using my BB data plan does not make economical sense. The need for a native client on a tablet means extra data plan. As an example one of our sales rep has a IPAD and he can only download his email and read presentation slide when he has a wifi connect which I do not need. Why pay the extra cost when I can use my Blackberry data plan does not make economic sense because I am not an APP or apple loyalist. I have an IPAD also and since I have gotten the playbook the IPAD is rarely used.

Yes maybe I am partial to blackberry not because they are a Canadian content but because of the security they offer so for business professional who require security the playbook is a good option regardless of the native email. The playbook was developed as a business tablet which has apps that support an interface into Oracle and Sharepoint which for a business executive is invaluable to review daily KPI. Not sure if this explanation is above your comprehension but that is the basis for me using the playbook.
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I'm happy that you get a use out of the playbook and I never said it was useless. My point was always that it's largely inferior to the competition and things like lack of native email client are like nails in a coffin.

Your sales rep can tether his iPad to just about any smartphone except maybe a crappy blackberry that doesn't have wifi hotspot functionality. So your argument is stupid.

Lack of something so basic as an email client is exactly why the playbook failed miserably in the marketplace. Its an accessory, not a standalone product. A typical RIM miss. They again fail to realize the importance of the consumer market to their business. They take a product with potential and then neuter it. Stupid stupid stupid.
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I am certain an en-mail client will be part of the next update. So is it a winner now at the new price? Yes, $200 is an ideal add-on for anyone with a blackberry. I got the 32G but seeing that I am using it mostly with my BB i could have just got the 16G. However I do think that once RIM have sold the volume they have to, I doubt you will see a second generation Playbook.

My wish list so far for the software update:
1) add a better "back" button on the browser.
2) an e-mail client would be great. but I use corporate e-mail for everything
3) more apps
 
STARSHIP said:
I am certain an en-mail client will be part of the next update. So is it a winner now at the new price? Yes, $200 is an ideal add-on for anyone with a blackberry. I got the 32G but seeing that I am using it mostly with my BB i could have just got the 16G. However I do think that once RIM have sold the volume they have to, I doubt you will see a second generation Playbook.

My wish list so far for the software update:
1) add a better "back" button on the browser.
2) an e-mail client would be great. but I use corporate e-mail for everything
3) more apps
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I can't figure out the spell check.
 
for what i got it, its perfect...g/f sits on the couch and browses the internet on her Iphone4 using the wifi. So for 200 bucks i thought i'd treat her to a bigger screen and faster processing. The fact that i can bridge it to the BB is a bonus only for me and only if i am away on a business trip. I might carry it with me on service calls just to see if i can use it to view online manuals in a pinch so i dont have to carry all the manuals with me.
 
Gummiente said:
Thing is, RIM did not set that sale price. RIM sells their products wholesale to all the various retailers, such as Staples. RIM receives all the money up front before their products hit the shelves. Once they are paid for, the store then sets the retail price, in this case $200. RIM has nothing to do with the retail price of its products, they've already been paid wholesale.

As for multiple retailers offering the same RIM product for the same sale price, I have no idea how that comes about, but there are several conspiracy theorists here that might.
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I believe RIM is behind all this.

They are now offering these prices directly from their website so that customers can buy directly from RIM so that they can maximize sales. They promise to ship in 1 or 2 days, so no need to even leave your house to go buy one.

4 days after I ordered mine from Staples, today I got a call to go pick it up. :)


http://crackberry.com/blackberry-playbooks-now-being-shipped-direct-rim-sale-prices




Also, some have mentioned they had connectivity issues with WiFi. They released a new version OS for download which addresses some issues. Clearly RIM is still supporting the Playbook.

The BlackBerry PlayBook OS v1.0.8.4985 contains the following fixes and updates:
  • Updated version of Adobe® Flash® Player version 11.1 and Adobe AIR® 3.1
  • Daylight savings time updates for time zones in the regions of Latin America, Australia and Central America
  • Updated Bluetooth® and Wi-Fi® software to help to improve connectivity
  • Fixed issues some users were experiencing with account payments in the BlackBerry App World™ storefront
  • Improved synching when restoring applications with BlackBerry Desktop Software
  • This update also includes a security update for Adobe Flash Player, as noted in Adobe Security Bulletin APSB-11-28, which addresses issues that can potentially affect any PC, tablet, or other device with an operating system that supports Adobe Flash.
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Thanks for the tips. Just ordered my playbook from Blackberry's site. Wow as crappy as this tablet supposedly is, I would have felt stupid not to jump on it at that price point.
 
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