Provincial politics

So basically what I said...

Any politician that promises anything more than ensuring things run smoothly and efficiently with minimal expense is pick 2 of (malicious or corrupt or stupid).
Every promise of provision requires taking something from some set of individuals and giving to another set. It's theft plain and simple and every party is anxious to get in on it.
I repeat, treat these people like the criminals they are. If they are in the game, they are crooks, no exceptions.

Re the Green party platform http://www.gpo.ca/sites/gpo.ca/files/gpo_platform_2014_web.pdf

1. Fine.
2. And you think transit is actually going to reduce traffic? I will grant that there are certain public-transit projects that really are needed (subway system expansion!) but expecting those to actually reduce commute times is wishful thinking. If there is better transit it will let people commute in from further away, that's what has always happened and always will.
3. Fine. The problem is that the average person does not think. If the house is a little warmer than I want and it's cooler outside than in, all my windows are open while my neighbor's air conditioning is running (and mine isn't). Major changes to building code and zoning bylaws are really what's needed here.
4. GOOD LUCK. While I agree with the premise (there is no logic in having two redundant school systems and religion should not have any part of the public school system - the right way to get religion out of it is to eliminate the ONE religion that is supported and thus support NONE of them equally) the problem is that this is so entrenched that I don't see any reasonable way to achieve it.
5. How?
6. How? And this isn't already the case?
7 and 9 I will address together. OK. Sounds good. No more expansion of urban areas so that they won't intrude any further into farmland or green space. Yet people continue to come in to this province. With no urban expansion there is only one way to go - UP! And presumably this also means no more gravel pits (a common rural issue - and I don't dispute that some of the proposed gravel pits have been in some pretty dumb places). What do you propose to build all those apartment buildings out of? Concrete? You know, the stuff that's made from limestone, crushed rock, etc.? - oh snap.
8. Aaaah, the truth comes out. Tax the heck out of industry and drive more of it away so that all those people you are putting in those tall apartment buildings that you can't make from concrete because you can't get the rock (gravel) out of the ground, don't have anywhere to work. Then maybe all those people will stop coming to this province so we won't need all those apartments so we don't need to extract gravel to make the concrete to build them, and we won't need more transit, either!

Loosey-goosey, not well thought out. Sounds nice to the common man at first reading, though.
 
Short answer: No. The Elections Ontario finances FAQ can be found here:

http://www.elections.on.ca/en-CA/FAQs/ElectionFinances.htm

Thanks for the link but it says:


"Who qualifies for a campaign expense subsidy?

Candidates get 20% of their subject to limit expenses if they get 15 percent of the popular vote

Parties get $0.05 per elector for each electoral district where they get 15 per cent of the popular vote"

I'm not sure if there is any difference in financial outcome between spoiled and declined ballots but when people at least show up at the polling station to "Not vote" the parties would see every un-vote as a lost nickel. Ever see a politician smile while passing up free money?
 
Just touching base. Has anything been resolved yet? OK, I'll come back later.
 
Thanks for the link but it says:


"Who qualifies for a campaign expense subsidy?

Candidates get 20% of their subject to limit expenses if they get 15 percent of the popular vote

Parties get $0.05 per elector for each electoral district where they get 15 per cent of the popular vote"

I'm not sure if there is any difference in financial outcome between spoiled and declined ballots but when people at least show up at the polling station to "Not vote" the parties would see every un-vote as a lost nickel. Ever see a politician smile while passing up free money?

Sorry, mentally edited out the word "any" in your original post. For some reason it read, to me, like you were asking if candidates were effectively paid to run. Good thing I added the link by way of full disclosure.
 
So far we know with certainty that none of the parties have promised to make it legal to use car tires on motorcycles.

There's nothing in it. Only poor people use car tires on motorcycles and car tires don't fit on electric scooters. Or you'd need a certain level of ingenuity to make it work. And we know poor people don't work. Isn't it in the best interest of poor people to vote NDP? NDP won't get in because voting takes effort.
 
Sorry, mentally edited out the word "any" in your original post. For some reason it read, to me, like you were asking if candidates were effectively paid to run. Good thing I added the link by way of full disclosure.

How much would they have to pay to get you to run for the Liberals? :)
 
I figure that I could retire on about $5M, while maintaining my current lifestyle. Since no one would ever TALK TO me after that, that would have to be my price ;)


Fixed it for you. You work cheap.

I want 301 billion from the Liberals. One billion for me and the other 300 billion to pay off the debt. I'd use my money to start a carcycle tire factory and keep on making them until the money was all gone.
 
Fixed it for you. You work cheap.

I want 301 billion from the Liberals. One billion for me and the other 300 billion to pay off the debt. I'd use my money to start a carcycle tire factory and keep on making them until the money was all gone.

Figure I'd change my name, move to Alabama, and open a rib hut. I've never heard of a rib hut going out of business in Alabama. Of course if anyone ever got wind of the word 'liberal' with respect to my name, they'd find me hanging from a tree somewhere.
 
Low hanging fruit.
 
If parties do get compensation per candidate vote, I am sure Hudak will have to pay money back, because he's probably losing votes to PC party. Seriously, nobody better/smarter with a bit of charisma available in PC party??? Boggles my mind why would they stick with this joker for so looong. It's almost like he has a contract they cannot get rid of .... in Leaf's terms .... no-trade clause.

PC party and charisma ... LOL ... doesn't exist I guess ..... it almost seems like these guys (Harper, Hudak ...) didn't get any classes on vote/sympathy harvesting methods ... they seem to be acting on purpose as idiotic as they can .... one thing is when a voter disagrees with party's program, but another is who are the people, the candidates ... in my opinion PC party is hurting themselves sticking to people like Hudak, or fearless leader Harper .... because if I don't like anyone's programs' priorities ... I would definitely consider who the premier of Ontario would be.
 
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What is really starting to PMO about this election is all the job, job, job blather while ignoring all of the other issues. We have the HTA 172 gestapo and now talk of minimizing insurance costs by eliminating the right to sue, slashing payouts etc.

Doesn't anyone see the insurance game? They promise a fifteen percent premium reduction on car insurance (Not bikes BTW)

What I see happening is your present policy is $2000.00 a year and you get med coverage of $50K maximum, $700 a week while recuperating.
They drop your premium by $300 but eliminate the right to sue for more than the above. If you feel your family can't survive on the $700 a week you talk to your insurance agent who sells you top up insurance for $500.00 a year. Do the math.

My Liberal candidate is Yvan Baker. That's all I know about him, his name. Donna Cansfield isn't running again probably because of the potential electric heat. Baker's only info seems to be some photo-ops at his nomination party. It's as if someone pointed at him and said "Hey you, waterboy. Do you want to be an MPP?" Does he have a Phd, MBA or is he a high school dropout? Was he drunk when he accepted the nomination?

There are so many issues here. When (Not if) the housing market collapses, welfare realities, real world education (Not the classroom stuff), a dysfunctional civil service, government blunders, etc. If a good government took care of the real issues the job market would take care of itself.

The pathetic list of candidates and platforms might be the last nail in Ontario's economic coffin.

Remember to shut off the lights when you leave. Never mind. They're stating to flicker. They'll go out on their own.
 
What is really starting to PMO about this election is all the job, job, job blather while ignoring all of the other issues. We have the HTA 172 gestapo and now talk of minimizing insurance costs by eliminating the right to sue, slashing payouts etc.

Doesn't anyone see the insurance game? They promise a fifteen percent premium reduction on car insurance (Not bikes BTW)

What I see happening is your present policy is $2000.00 a year and you get med coverage of $50K maximum, $700 a week while recuperating.
They drop your premium by $300 but eliminate the right to sue for more than the above. If you feel your family can't survive on the $700 a week you talk to your insurance agent who sells you top up insurance for $500.00 a year. Do the math.

My Liberal candidate is Yvan Baker. That's all I know about him, his name. Donna Cansfield isn't running again probably because of the potential electric heat. Baker's only info seems to be some photo-ops at his nomination party. It's as if someone pointed at him and said "Hey you, waterboy. Do you want to be an MPP?" Does he have a Phd, MBA or is he a high school dropout? Was he drunk when he accepted the nomination?

There are so many issues here. When (Not if) the housing market collapses, welfare realities, real world education (Not the classroom stuff), a dysfunctional civil service, government blunders, etc. If a good government took care of the real issues the job market would take care of itself.

The pathetic list of candidates and platforms might be the last nail in Ontario's economic coffin.

Remember to shut off the lights when you leave. Never mind. They're stating to flicker. They'll go out on their own.

If Rob Ford has taught us anything, it's that you don't get elected by dealing with complex election issues. You choose one main theme, make a simple statement about it using words of only one syllable if at all possible, then ride that dead horse into the winner's circle. Making statements on other issues just nets you a loss, like it did for John Tory.

http://voteyvanbaker.ca/Biography

http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/yvan-baker/6/5ba/267
 
If Rob Ford has taught us anything, it's that you don't get elected by dealing with complex election issues. You choose one main theme, make a simple statement about it using words of only one syllable if at all possible, then ride that dead horse into the winner's circle. Making statements on other issues just nets you a loss, like it did for John Tory.

http://voteyvanbaker.ca/Biography

http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/yvan-baker/6/5ba/267

Thanks for the links. My "Real world education" means in order to vote you have to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Tricky for some but they get to vote. Do you know any benevolent dictators looking for work?
 
Thanks for the links. My "Real world education" means in order to vote you have to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Tricky for some but they get to vote. Do you know any benevolent dictators looking for work?

Me, for one, but I'm waiting for the Federal election.

... and won't guarantee that future benevolence is assured.
 
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