PRIDE Parade - Good or Bad?

[Cat13]

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Am I the only one who sees Pride as being for straight people also? To me its a celebration of being who you are and being around people who are ok with you as you, gay straight bi etc etc.

I decided to be straight after my parents informed me they would disown me if I caught the gay, and what happens to your bumhole if you are gay or happen to go to prison (two lessons in one, my parents were pretty smart).

That conversation followed a previous highlight of my father letting me know he would break my legs if I didn't name my first born after myself, him, and my grandfather. A me the fourth if you will (I'm the third). He was dead serious and has reminded me several times throughout my life

Its not a choice. I'm bi, and I've been told if I brought a girl home I'm dead to my grandfather. Surprising few girls in my family are bi and my grandfathers sister is gay. Its only been since we told my grandfather to ****ing deal with it that she started coming to the family get together.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with this. I'm straight and to be honest I don't really have any gay friends though I've known a few gay people here and there. However, I think Pride is a great thing for the city's Economy, it's kind of a fun thing to see on a hot July day, and I'm actually kind of proud that the city I chose to live in is world renowned for it's tolerance and freedom to choose what you wish to do in the bedroom.

However, yeah, I don't agree with when dudes rock out with their cocks out cause it's pride so they get special treatment. Although, I suppose you could hit up Port Dover in a couple of weeks and see similar level of nudity.

Roasted I am 100% with you.

I think the full nudity comes from the fact that homosexuality was prosecuted under indecency laws, I think I saw about 10 people (male and female) bottomless out of the thousand or so people in the parade.

I don't want to see it but I figure there are worse things to see.

Speaking of pg rated, why is violence ok but showing love (sex) not ok in movies.

Because North America is a bunch of prudes. Used to work with a girl from Germany and she would talk about how things are there and so very different than here. They are more comfortable with their sexuality.

There is nothing there that i havent seen on a beach!

I think if children are at the age to discuss sex with, then Pride would be a great place for the them.

We Do have a straight parade, its called everyday life when you show affection to your partner without being insulted, harassed or worse.

+10000000%
Honestly... I dont want to be one of those parents that goes "omg cover your eyes hes naked" I want my kid comfortable with the human body.

About being fired:
Their workplace doesn't need to know they're gay. If they tell their coworkers, or boss/etc, then it's on them. Sexuality, like many other things should only be expressed in the appropriate places. You wouldn't go to a motorcycle meet in bondage gear, you'd go to a bondage party in it. As the same, you wouldn't go to work shouting I'M GAY while wearing all rainbow clothes and apparel. It's just not the right place (ESPECIALLY a professional place.) You don't need to announce it everywhere and shove it down people's throats (sorta like religion... which reminds me of a funny quote)

Ok but as soon as you mention your partners name they know your gay. You dont have to say my husband or my wife. Most of the time gender is figured out with the name. And I've met straight couples that call each other partners in support of gay people but I shocked myself when I assumed one friend was gay till I met her husband.

So do you hide any pictures of you and your boyfriend at work so people don't have to know that you're straight? If a friend from work adds you on facebook, do you refuse the add because you don't want them to see pics of you with guys and know that you're straight? What about when a female coworker asks you what you did on the weekend and the truth is that you hung out with your boyfriend.....do you refer to him as "signifiant other" or "partner" in conversation to hide that you're straight? If some girl at work pulls out a magazine with a picture of Ryan Gosling and asks you if you think he's hot do you say that you have no opinion because you want to hide your sexual orientation?

Do you see my point? Sexual orientation comes up in even very casual conversations at work A LOT. A gay person should not have to HIDE their sexual orientation at work. And as long as they are not going out of their way to hide it at all times everyone will know pretty quick.

Roasted I think I could add +1000000000000000000 to all your comments in this thread.

It's not about hiding it, but rather about not unnecessarily being in your face about it.. I used to work with someone who would talk all the time about what she did with "Joey" that weekend, that day.. the date they had etc.. we all new Joey to be her significant other, and because its a unisex name we just assumed it was her boyfriend.. well one day she had pictures and it turns out Joey was a women.. she was gay.. not one person cared, she was still the same girl we had always worked with. The point is, she never hid the fact that she was gay, but never made it a point to make it unnecessarily in your face.

You obviously don't see that she was hiding it. By giving her partner a male nickname she hid her sexuality and led you all to believe she was straight. I am sorry that she felt she had to do that, and I am sorry that you think that it's ok. Its not ok. She should feel comfortable enough to be more open. And that is societies fault for making her feel that way.

 

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Its not a choice. I'm bi, and I've been told if I brought a girl home I'm dead to my grandfather. Surprising few girls in my family are bi and my grandfathers sister is gay. Its only been since we told my grandfather to ****ing deal with it that she started coming to the family get together.

Anyone who says they "chose" to be straight are still gay. They just "chose" to stay in the closet. I'm thankful that I didn't feel pressured by my own family to be something I'm not. They'd rather see me happy.

 

[Fiery254]

I'm just back from Cape Cod. I visited Provincetown for the day. Now that's way more Gay Pride than any silly, staged march where people get to be over the top and misrepresent themselves. Gay people wandering around being openly gay and normal at the same time. No need for silly behaviour or siilly costumes. And there were plenty of families sharing the same streets, bars and restaurants with these openly gay people. No one seemed offended by anything other than the bicycle traffic.

 

[_Motorhead_]

a whole lot of retards on this board. I'm not really that surprised. Some of your open your mouths (or type) and show just how ignorant and backwards you are.

boohoo. you feel butthurt because "the gays" have a parade? Our entire society promotes and shows visual displays of "straighness" and sex. Movies, TV, magazines, strips bars etc.

oh "i have nothing against the gays, but cant they just be cool and shutup". You mean like the blacks in the southern US in the 50's? Sit down, be nice and dont rock the boat. Gays have been discriminated and excluded for decades.

get over yourself you neanderthals. I bet you all live in the suburbs.

 

[Mr.Azim]

Don't care.Just wish it wasn't on Canada Day weekend,and that it wasn't billed as a "family type" event.

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a whole lot of retards on this board. I'm not really that surprised. Some of your open your mouths (or type) and show just how ignorant and backwards you are.

This topic brings the most ad-hominem responses whenever someone expresses their dislike.

Make a valid point about this and the fact that people can have and share their own opinions. I dare you.

The strip-bars, movies and magazines and whatever nudity is there isn't wandering around on the street like how people use the "parade" as an excuse to do so.

 

[Fiery254]

a whole lot of retards on this board. I'm not really that surprised. Some of your open your mouths (or type) and show just how ignorant and backwards you are.

boohoo. you feel butthurt because "the gays" have a parade? Our entire society promotes and shows visual displays of "straighness" and sex. Movies, TV, magazines, strips bars etc.

oh "i have nothing against the gays, but cant they just be cool and shutup". You mean like the blacks in the southern US in the 50's? Sit down, be nice and dont rock the boat. Gays have been discriminated and excluded for decades.

get over yourself you neanderthals. I bet you all live in the suburbs.

So everyone should be tolerant, but only your version of tolerant? How do we spell hypocrite?

 

[_Motorhead_]

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This topic brings the most ad-hominem responses whenever someone expresses their dislike.

Make a valid point about this and the fact that people can have and share their own opinions. I dare you.

The strip-bars, movies and magazines and whatever nudity is there isn't wandering around on the street like how people use the "parade" as an excuse to do so.

really? ever spend time in Montreal? Those strip bars have naked women all over it. Maxim magazine and all those other mags? plenty of skin there.

 

[dr_sarcasm]

Ok to offset the flabby gay men in things and bulldykes in plaid I suggest lipstick lesbian pride day where only hot lesbians can march. Kissing and full sex are not mandatory but encouraged.

Best. Idea. EvAr.

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[dricked]

I'd go to pride before I went to carabana. Atleast you know your going home with all your personal belongings.

Couldn't care less if your gay, it's just the over the top in your face flamboyance that irritates me (how come women don't act overly rediculas because their gay? Well other than man haters but that's for another parade). Parade all you want but don't get upset when people don't support it, it's thier choice not to go the same as its another to go and support it. I definatly wouldn't take a child or young teen down to observe the way gay people act (that would be exactly how they would observe the behavior, not my view).

 

[_Motorhead_]

considering you can't even spell properly, you being worried about "wouldn't take a child or young teen down to observe the way gay people act" is the least of your worries.

lot of "straight" people act "overly rediculas" you know? The small brain, muscle heads that like UFC heading out to pick fights to prove "i'm a man". The idiotic chopper riders with straight pipes and those stupid skull face masks.

yeah. I'd be horrified to show that to any kids.

I'd go to pride before I went to carabana. Atleast you know your going home with all your personal belongings.

Couldn't care less if your gay, it's just the over the top in your face flamboyance that irritates me (how come women don't act overly rediculas because their gay? Well other than man haters but that's for another parade). Parade all you want but don't get upset when people don't support it, it's thier choice not to go the same as its another to go and support it. I definatly wouldn't take a child or young teen down to observe the way gay people act (that would be exactly how they would observe the behavior, not my view).

 

[nobbie48]

As a concession to gtm, Canada is a free country and as much as I disagree with his family's thoughts on the subject he is free to act any legal way he wants. If he wants to do as told by his father that is his right providing his father isn't breaking any laws. One can't legally break a child's leg but I'm not sure if there is an age where the victim can refuse to charge the aggressor.

If a G/L chooses to hide their orientation because they love their ultra right wing family then that sacrifice is their choice. Some hetrosexual people choose to stay single to take care of their parents even though they want to marry. In both cases it is a sad situation that has the potential of doing longer term damage.

In some cultures the children are expected to take care of the parents at the expense of their own wishes and desires. There is a sad nobility in that the person never gets to feel the zest for life of the largely western lifestyle. On the other hand it will have a degree of stability that western society largely misses. Everyone has the right to choose. If their choice isn't what we would do, we have to remember that it is their choice.

 

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As a concession to gtm, Canada is a free country and as much as I disagree with his family's thoughts on the subject he is free to act any legal way he wants. If he wants to do as told by his father that is his right providing his father isn't breaking any laws. One can't legally break a child's leg but I'm not sure if there is an age where the victim can refuse to charge the aggressor.

If a G/L chooses to hide their orientation because they love their ultra right wing family then that sacrifice is their choice. Some hetrosexual people choose to stay single to take care of their parents even though they want to marry. In both cases it is a sad situation that has the potential of doing longer term damage.

In some cultures the children are expected to take care of the parents at the expense of their own wishes and desires. There is a sad nobility in that the person never gets to feel the zest for life of the largely western lifestyle. On the other hand it will have a degree of stability that western society largely misses. Everyone has the right to choose. If their choice isn't what we would do, we have to remember that it is their choice.

You're right, it is an individual choice (albeit a sad one). It would be one thing if it means that the individual chose to remain single the rest of their lives, but it could get far more complicated if they choose to marry someone of the opposite sex and raise a family.

 

[jc100]

I used to go watch the gay pride parade in Paris when I lived there...that was fun...surprised they didn't bring Dykes on Bikes over here though. Had a friend that was a French cop...he didn't mind it so much except for that he didn't much enjoy being kissed by hundreds of guys for photo ops.

 

[_Motorhead_]

I used to go watch the gay pride parade in Paris when I lived there...that was fun...surprised they didn't bring Dykes on Bikes over here though. Had a friend that was a French cop...he didn't mind it so much except for that he didn't much enjoy being kissed by hundreds of guys for photo ops.

there are dykes on bikes at the Toronto event

 

[dricked]

considering you can't even spell properly, you being worried about "wouldn't take a child or young teen down to observe the way gay people act" is the least of your worries.

lot of "straight" people act "overly rediculas" you know? The small brain, muscle heads that like UFC heading out to pick fights to prove "i'm a man". The idiotic chopper riders with straight pipes and those stupid skull face masks.

yeah. I'd be horrified to show that to any kids.

My spelling sucks but so does your reading comprehension. Lighten up.

 

[knowledge]

First Anderson Cooper came out a couple of days ago.

Now, Frank Ocean. He's pretty much the first urban artist to come out. I wonder if it'll affect his relationship with Odd Future (don't care though; I hate those guys). Who knows if Def Jam will drop him now - although I imagine Jay-Z wouldn't be that dumb.

Good for them, though...

 

[_Motorhead_]

"My spelling sucks but so does your reading comprehension. Lighten up."

you sir, are a dolt.

 

[dricked]

"My spelling sucks but so does your reading comprehension. Lighten up."

you sir, are a dolt.

You sir, are a very nice person.

 

[just_luc]

You obviously don't see that she was hiding it. By giving her partner a male nickname she hid her sexuality and led you all to believe she was straight. I am sorry that she felt she had to do that, and I am sorry that you think that it's ok. Its not ok. She should feel comfortable enough to be more open. And that is societies fault for making her feel that way.

It wasn't a nickname.. her female partners actual name is Joey. And maybe it's a 'you had to be there' thing but she made no attempts to hide it.. she just talked normally and openly as we all did, the only thing she didn't do was stop the conversation everytime she refered to Joey and say "you know Joey my girlffriend.. because I'm gay??" She just went about it as it was no big thing.. because.. it isnt. When there was a social event or whatnot she didn't shy away, or make an excuse.. she came, and she brought Joey with her. I guess it's hard to explain, but she didn't hide it at all.. she just didn't intentionaly make it more then it was.. She was just her.. and part of that was that she happened to prefer other women sexually, but that didn't make her act any diffrent.. What I am saying is I just don't understand what being attracted to a person of the same sex has to do with that flamboyant overtop, let's call it the sanfransicos personality.. AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING, I KNOW NOT ALL GAY PEOPLE ACT THIS WAY!! As I said I have many gay friends who don't.. my issue is strictly with those that do, and IN MY OPINION that is what the parade is about.. it's about that attitude and that overtop flamboyancy and I don't see a need for it.

For the record:

I don't think being gay is a choice, but I think being 'gay' is a choice.. Confused? let me explain.. I don't think you control who you are attaracted too.. be it same sex or otherwise.. but I also don't think people necessarily need to be gay or striaght.. they can just be attracted to a person and not put so much stock in wether that person is a man or a women.. What I mean when I say being 'gay' is a choice, is SOME (not all) people who have identified themselves as being attracted to people of the same sex now feel they need to embody that personality.. they need to "act gay" if you will.. and I just don't understand why they can't just be themselves regardless of their sexual preference.

 

[_Motorhead_]

is that like people "acting black" ?

your logic is a total fail.

It wasn't a nickname.. her female partners actual name is Joey. And maybe it's a 'you had to be there' thing but she made no attempts to hide it.. she just talked normally and openly as we all did, the only thing she didn't do was stop the conversation everytime she refered to Joey and say "you know Joey my girlffriend.. because I'm gay??" She just went about it as it was no big thing.. because.. it isnt. When there was a social event or whatnot she didn't shy away, or make an excuse.. she came, and she brought Joey with her. I guess it's hard to explain, but she didn't hide it at all.. she just didn't intentionaly make it more then it was.. She was just her.. and part of that was that she happened to prefer other women sexually, but that didn't make her act any diffrent.. What I am saying is I just don't understand what being attracted to a person of the same sex has to do with that flamboyant overtop, let's call it the sanfransicos personality.. AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING, I KNOW NOT ALL GAY PEOPLE ACT THIS WAY!! As I said I have many gay friends who don't.. my issue is strictly with those that do, and IN MY OPINION that is what the parade is about.. it's about that attitude and that overtop flamboyancy and I don't see a need for it.

For the record:

I don't think being gay is a choice, but I think being 'gay' is a choice.. Confused? let me explain.. I don't think you control who you are attaracted too.. be it same sex or otherwise.. but I also don't think people necessarily need to be gay or striaght.. they can just be attracted to a person and not put so much stock in wether that person is a man or a women.. What I mean when I say being 'gay' is a choice, is SOME (not all) people who have identified themselves as being attracted to people of the same sex now feel they need to embody that personality.. they need to "act gay" if you will.. and I just don't understand why they can't just be themselves regardless of their sexual preference.

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