Seems like there's plenty of know-it-alls here arguing the other side of the coin. Who's providing any facts with their arguments?
Now THIS is how you complain.
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Seems like there's plenty of know-it-alls here arguing the other side of the coin. Who's providing any facts with their arguments?
I've said it before. It's so simple to deprive cops of being paid overtime when they have to attend court on their days offbcause you gave them reason to stop you and issue a ticket.
Just drive or ride within the traffic laws that you were all supposed to learn before you ever got your license. It's your choice, but don't ***** and moan when it's your choices that put you on the side of the road waiting for paper.
09SV650S
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I cant reason with this debate anymore now you're just talking crap..... revenue and the political advantages are the two largest reasons they are focused on traffic violations!!!!!!! The public screams for many other things and no other gov't services are eager and willing to satisfy the public? so why the cops? bc they are earning revenue from it thats why. Pays for all the raises, justifies their positions, expenses, etc....
I am so confused reading this thread lol. The two main ideas in this thread are "Stop generating as much revenue" and "Hire more Police to get stuff done".
Am I the only one that sees a problem with that?
The entire city of Toronto was up in arms about Police budget increases. In the end, their increase was reduced (heh) and now people are complaining that they have to generate revenue elsewhere? Hmmmm. In the end, it all comes down to the good ol' "We wan't more but we don't want to pay for it!"
Am I the only one that sees a problem with that?
The entire city of Toronto was up in arms about Police budget increases. In the end, their increase was reduced (heh) and now people are complaining that they have to generate revenue elsewhere? Hmmmm. In the end, it all comes down to the good ol' "We wan't more but we don't want to pay for it!"
Wait a second here! Did I hear you say "the public screams for so many things"?
Perfect. Then the cops are doing what the general public wants and expects of them. You've just made my argument for me.
then we'll have some of the dirty ones making up tickets as they go along... like dennis... and the cop that tried to tag me with a 51 over but my gps proved him wrong so he gave me a 15 over. I fought that one in 2009 and i'm still waiting for a court date...
09SV650S
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I didn't bother reading all the arguments in this thread but AMEN to the article! While I can't assume to know with absolute certainty what motivates one to become a police officer, I honestly believe that helping other people ranks near bottom of the list for the majority (if it ranks at all). It's just a job and they're motivated by material concerns like everyone else. Potentially doing a public service is just a side bonus. Simply being a police officer doesn't make you a good person or a hero. Actions do.
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Shaman
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Junior-High debate tactic spotted.
That might work in the perfect world. but if everybody obeyed the current laws to a T, the money would stop coming in and there'd have to be some changes, like lowering the speed limits, requiring 5000 different items in the car (first aid kit, hi-vis vest, flashlight, spare parts etc etc etc, in the name of safety) and whatever else sick bureaucratic minds can come up with to ramp up the revenues. It would lead to driving within the confines of the law impractical and accepting the occasional stack of tickets for doing 31km/h on the 401 (new speed limit 30), having a first aid kit but not being of the "approved" kind, having only 1 spare headlight bulb and not 2 and the hi-vis vest having your name written on it. I've seen it done in other jurisdictions (minus the unreasonable speed limits, actually quite the contrary).
Don't bother asking, you will get legal enforcement version kind of reply. Basically, we the people who pay for their services, we don't get it how they operate ... LOL what else is new???
No he has not. You just started to drink earlier in the morning than you used to that's all ....
Welcome to the club. We realise this since 2009
It seems you've succeeded in turning the argument into something it never was.
People are complaining that police don't do their jobs when it comes to property crimes, not violent crimes. Yet they always have enough resources to issue traffic tickets. And there's another twisting of reality you've contributed to this thread; there is simply no way that traffic violations represent the same danger to society as theives and vandals. That's proposterous and it's the reason we have the nanny state road rules that we have, as discussed in the other thread.
Either talk about reality, or go write a children's novel with your fantastic ideas of cops in shining white armours, but don't bring your BS here.
How much is allocated for residential crime? B&E, etc...
According to Transport Canada, traffic crashes in 2009 resulted in 2,209 fatalities, 11,451 serious injuries, and 172,883 lesser injuries. Can you provide stats showing that property crimes like theft and vandalism had similar effect on life and limb?
Which is more important to you in the greater scheme of things? Life and limb? Or a missing TV, broken window, or graffitti?
if someone stole my tv, there would be high amount of serious injuries, and possibly a few fatalities
it would be like Arnold in Commando.
it would be like Arnold in Commando.
There you go tainting the argument again. According to you, speed traps = saving life and limb, while criminal activity = an opportunity to buy new stuff!
Like I said, come back when you're willing to discuss reality.
for the most part people don't go out driving intending to hurt some one, the same can not be said about property crimes and assaults. if you're breaking into a home, even if you think it's unoccupied, you have some intent to cause harm.
