Now THIS is how you complain.

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turbodish said:
even when the booze starts to hit, simply being tipsy is seldom grounds for a public intoxication charge. The intoxication generally has to be fairly gross before anyone is hit with that, to the point where they have become a danger to themselves or a serious nuisance to others in the public place.
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i call BS. P.I. Was the usual charge that earned you a free one way ticket on the Cherry Beach Express, as it was virtually impossible to prove you weren't intoxicated, but merely lippy when you showed up at 51 the next morning covered in bruises. It is and always has been a charge that is up to the discretion of the arresting officer. you damn well know that, but the real facts doesn't jive with your turbofacts, so you"conveniently" omit it. Same old same old.
 
LittleSaki said:
In the "corporate world" it's socially ok to have a drink with lunch or at a lunch meeting.
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This may have been the case not too many years ago, and it may still be the case in certain circumstances and among VERY select people, but it's certainly not common any more ...

CruisnGrrl said:
actually at my work place going for a drink on lunch is not allowed, showing up after drinking before work isn't allowed either. drinking on premises isn't allowed either... I don't believe i've ever worked some where where drinking on a break is acceptable.
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This is more common by far.

My workplace is small (2 people) but I visit customers a lot, and zero-alcohol is the normal policy.
 
Why are we having another turbo-argument again???
This gets old
 
FullMotoJacket said:
i call BS. P.I. Was the usual charge that earned you a free one way ticket on the Cherry Beach Express, as it was virtually impossible to prove you weren't intoxicated, but merely lippy when you showed up at 51 the next morning covered in bruises. It is and always has been a charge that is up to the discretion of the arresting officer. you damn well know that, but the real facts doesn't jive with your turbofacts, so you"conveniently" omit it. Same old same old.
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You've been on the Express?
 
Baggsy said:
You've been on the Express?
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a friend of mine ended up on it when he lipped off to some cops some 20 years back. he was a punk from georgetown where cops would take trouble makers and drop them off far from home (george town was way less populated then) and leave them with no ID or cash. he figured what is the worse that could happen, he get's dropped off at the edge of scarborough and he has to beg a dollar to get on the bus? he found out that georgetown cops were nicer than TPS.
 
CruisnGrrl said:
a friend of mine ended up on it when he lipped off to some cops some 20 years back. he was a punk from georgetown where cops would take trouble makers and drop them off far from home (george town was way less populated then) and leave them with no ID or cash. he figured what is the worse that could happen, he get's dropped off at the edge of scarborough and he has to beg a dollar to get on the bus? he found out that georgetown cops were nicer than TPS.
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That was regular patrol cops. Heaven bloody help you if you ever had the misfortune of running afoul, of the Metro Holdup Squad.
 
Brian P said:
This may have been the case not too many years ago, and it may still be the case in certain circumstances and among VERY select people, but it's certainly not common any more ...
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With Dinner, wine is normal, but lunch. I don't think I have ever had a drink.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Short answer: torturing suspects. Here's an example.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=sZZ...onepage&q=toronto hold up squad abuse&f=false

There were also stories of things like stapling a suspect's testicles to a wooden stool and then kicking the stool out from under him.
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that sounds painful. wonder if they tortured puppies and kittens when they were children... takes a certain kind of person to do that, they're supposed to be our protectors, who protects us from them?
 
CruisnGrrl said:
that sounds painful. wonder if they tortured puppies and kittens when they were children... takes a certain kind of person to do that, they're supposed to be our protectors, who protects us from them?
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It's easy enough to convince yourself that you've got the moral high ground, it you don't consider the people you're dealing with to be.... you know, people.
 
Do you agree with the 0.02% estimate used in the book?
 
Baggsy said:
Do you agree with the 0.02% estimate used in the book?
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Are you talking about the 11 reports out of 500, which themselves represented roughly 1% of total reports? To start with, that's an American estimate, so it doesn't necessarily reflect our situation. Let's work with that, though, since we don't have any other numbers presented. There are approximately 5700 uniformed officers, I believe. That would mean what, ONE bad officer in the bunch? I think recent history shows something different. I would place it in the low single digit percents, with the 'good' officers unfortunately prone to cover for the bad, who they have to trust to have their backs too.

Yeah, I know that we're talking about "police incidents" and not "police officers" but, if the numbers are meaningless anyway, I don't think that I'm making them any more so ;)
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