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a buddy bought a 2.7L 4 cylinder tacoma and wishes he would have bought the 4.0L 6 cylinder. some of it's personal preference, but if your logic takes you to the V6, why not consider a V8 tundra as the fuel mileage is essentially the same with the added advantage of more space, power, towing capacity etc. even if you're towing a small percentage of the time, it's better to have the right tool for the job.

fuel economy is important when you're considering buying a subcompact vs a full sized truck, but less so when you're in the same class of vehicle as fuel cost isn't the biggest cost in owning a vehicle. especially when you're factoring in a 2-3 litre/100km difference in fuel economy. thats 400-600 litres of gas/fuel a year (based on driving 20,000 km/yr) extra. yes it adds up over time, but to me thats not enough of a savings to buy something that doesnt do what i want it to.

i have a 2008 jeep gc diesel and i get a steady 11L/100km empty and i can tow 7500 lbs. towing my 6x13 trailer with 2 bikes, 2 people, gear, etc i got around 17 L/100 which isn't great, but the motor doesn't need to work any harder. before that i had a 2008 chev 2500 diesel. i didnt drive it hard, but i got around 13L/100 km which is great for a 7000lb truck. towing the same load you didn't even know it was behind you. bottom line..i should have followed my own advice and kept the truck.
 
Wingboy said:
A van is a great idea especially for trackdays.But it would suck when used for yardwork.Loads of brush to the dump,picking up mulch for the gardens etc.
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get a dump trailer.
 
frekeyguy said:
I can't belive how expensive pickups are now. And insurance on them is just as high. I think i'll be going the SUV + trailer route for a while.....
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I am getting a Santa Fe on Friday - 2.0 turbo 270HP - Good in gas and it has kick when you needed it.
However all I tow is my bike to the track so no need for more.
 
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The short drive isn't good for diesels for lotsa reasons.
However, that's bicycle distance for 8 months of the yr...lol
 
Wingboy said:
A van is a great idea especially for trackdays.But it would suck when used for yardwork.Loads of brush to the dump,picking up mulch for the gardens etc.
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Depending upon what truck you get, you might be able to use the option that I had. It makes loading of anything, up to and including a washer/dryer combo and a refrigerator (put all three in the truck when I was in Alabama one year), an absolute breeze. When loading a bike I would ride it up, right into a Baxley chock. Made in Canada too.

http://www.buddyramp.net/

Actually I still have one that will fit a 2001 Dodge Dakota, that hasn't been used in years.
 
omnivore said:
The short drive isn't good for diesels for lotsa reasons.
However, that's bicycle distance for 8 months of the yr...lol
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lol...I've walked a few times. took me 8 mins
 
F150 is the best selling truck in North America because its very well priced. Not because its great quality (its ok) , most stylish or good resale. Its because its under 20k for a base truck and you can go 4dr, nice interior and still be under 30k.
My insurance dropped $182.00 from an 06 jetta diesel to a 2013 F150. They are safer, personal injury claims are less so insurance is better.
 
SunnY S said:
what is this xx/100km you guys speak of, does no one refer to mpg anymore?
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This "no one" does.
See post #27. Switch to telephoto if necessary!!
I still can't wrap my head around L's per km's, or kms per L's, or whatever the hell they're teaching the kids these days.
 
Gary said:
I still can't wrap my head around L's per km's, or kms per L's, or whatever the hell they're teaching the kids days.
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Get off my lawn.


Wait, I'm not quite at that phase yet.


Stop doing burnouts in front of my house.


Better.
 
Gary said:
This "no one" does.
See post #27. Switch to telephoto if necessary!!
I still can't wrap my head around L's per km's, or kms per L's, or whatever the hell they're teaching the kids these days.
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It's funny how even on other Canadian forums that I am on (like CGN) that Canadians still use MPG so often -- especially since we buy our fuel in litres and our odometers are in km... you have to do two conversions to get your MPG. With liter/100k you could drive 100k, fill up the tank and easily say I used 12 litres to go that 100k... so simple.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
Get off my lawn.


Wait, I'm not quite at that phase yet.


Stop doing burnouts in front of my house.


Better.
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I don't know what you're talking about!!
You must be thinking of someone else.:D

Diesel said:
It's funny how even on other Canadian forums that I am on (like CGN) that Canadians still use MPG so often -- especially since we buy our fuel in litres and our odometers are in km... you have to do two conversions to get your MPG. With liter/100k you could drive 100k, fill up the tank and easily say I used 12 litres to go that 100k... so simple.
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I don't know what "CGN" is, but I like it already!!
Metric would probably make much more sense if they had mentioned it in school.
I think I heard the word "centigrade" used once or twice in high school. Never knew what a kilometre was until Mulruinee thought it would be a good idea to confuse the **** out of us.
I can picture and fully understand mpg's, but k's per L's is still a mystery.

p.s. Ric..........buy a 10cyl dually FTW.
 
Isn't CGN "Canadian Gun Nuts"?I understand L/100km. But I grew up watching american car/truck shows, so MPG was what I learned first. My truck forum is a world wide forum, so both get thrown out in to the same threads at times... need a calculater out to follow along.
 
how many feet in a yard? in a mile? quarts in a gallon? which gallon is that again? US or Imperial?

With metric its easy, everything is multiplied or divided by 10. 1m = 10 decimeters = 100mm 1km = 1000m all easily divisible.

Whats more confusing is that here for some mind numbing reason we still use Imperial Gallons. so our MPG is not the same as US MPG....and as someone said....the day my cluster is in miles and the day the gas station pumps fuel out in gallons i will use MPG's....
 
Gary said:
I can picture and fully understand mpg's, but k's per L's is still a mystery.
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Let's say you have two cars, a truck that gets 20 MPG and a car that gets 30 MPG. You need to save fuel but you can only replace one vehicle. Do you replace the truck with another one that gets 30 MPG or the car with another car that gets 50?

So the question is, which will save you more gas? Going from 20 -> 30 MPG, or going from 30 -> 50 MPG?

Try and figure that out without doing the math. With metric, it's obvious.
 
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Red_Liner740 said:
how many feet in a yard? in a mile? quarts in a gallon? which gallon is that again? US or Imperial?

With metric its easy, everything is multiplied or divided by 10. 1m = 10 decimeters = 100mm 1km = 1000m all easily divisible.

Whats more confusing is that here for some mind numbing reason we still use Imperial Gallons. so our MPG is not the same as US MPG....and as someone said....the day my cluster is in miles and the day the gas station pumps fuel out in gallons i will use MPG's....
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3 feet in a yard. 5280 feet in a mile (5000' in a Roman mile I think - but my memory is whacky) - it's simple. 4 quarts in a gallon - the US gallon and the Imp gallon were close enough when life was simpler.

I'm not doubting metric is simple. I was never taught it, and just don't get it (and don't want to......I'm my own worse enemy once in a while)

fastar1 said:
Let's say you have two cars, a truck that gets 20 MPG and a car that gets 30 MPG. You need to save fuel but you can only replace one vehicle. Do you replace the truck with another one that gets 30 MPG or the car with another car that gets 50?

So the question is, which will save you more gas? Going from 20 -> 30 MPG, or going from 30 -> 50 MPG?

Try and figure that out without doing the math. With metric, it's obvious.
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Let's say I don't care and we log on to www.fuelly.com and let them handle it :-)
 
Gary said:
3 feet in a yard. 5280 feet in a mile (5000' in a Roman mile I think - but my memory is whacky) - it's simple. 4 quarts in a gallon - the US gallon and the Imp gallon were close enough when life was simpler.

I'm not doubting metric is simple. I was never taught it, and just don't get it (and don't want to......I'm my own worse enemy once in a while)



Let's say I don't care and we log on to www.fuelly.com and let them handle it :-)
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I'm with Gary.I can't think fuel mileage in metric,but i have no problem with my gps telling me to turn in 300 meters.I guess i grew up during the learning curve.
 
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