New truck?

[Gary]

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I can't belive how expensive pickups are now. And insurance on them is just as high. I think i'll be going the SUV + trailer route for a while.....

I pay 40% more for my car than my F150. The car's value is less - go figure.

I was considering a Transit Connect as my next vehicle, for that very reason, but unfortunately the box isn't long enough for most bikes.

Although I'd never buy one, have you taken a close look at the new Nissan van? The "NV". It's HUGE and square - would make for a great hauler / weekender.

 

[Hardwrkr13]

My father just went from a low mileage 2008 Ranger 4x4 extended cab with V6 to a 2013 F150 4x4 club cab with V8. So far he's finding the F150 to have slightly better mileage and it's not broken in yet. Mileage figures without trailer/load.

And speaking of SUV's, my Mazda CX-7 is brutal on insurance.

 

[inreb]

compact trucks are like a three inch penis, it'll sort of do the job around town, but your not taking that show on the road.

Diameter is not that important, it's how you use it.

 

[N3WMAN]

My father just went from a low mileage 2008 Ranger 4x4 extended cab with V6 to a 2013 F150 4x4 club cab with V8. So far he's finding the F150 to have slightly better mileage and it's not broken in yet. Mileage figures without trailer/load.

And speaking of SUV's, my Mazda CX-7 is brutal on insurance.

The V6 Ranger is brutal on gas. I can't understand why people buy them.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Although I'd never buy one, have you taken a close look at the new Nissan van? The "NV". It's HUGE and square - would make for a great hauler / weekender.

I saw one recently and it would definitely be in the running, but the attractive things about the TC are its versatility and size. I bought my current Mazda 5 for the same reason. If only the TC was maybe 8 inches longer on the inside.

 

[SunnY S]

what is this xx/100km you guys speak of, does no one refer to mpg anymore?

 

[daisoman]

what is this xx/100km you guys speak of, does no one refer to mpg anymore?

Yeah we're in Canada. Mpg is for the Emericans.

 

[fastar1]

I don't think anyone here that is suggesting a bigger truck is trying to push you to it, but it makes sense. Sure, I have 390hp, but I almost NEVER have it to the floor. That little 4 cyl will need to be WOT fairly often, especially when it's loaded up.

WOT is where an engine is most efficient in terms of power/fuel. It's the same reason that small engines in cars are generally more efficient.

 

[Red_Liner740]

WOT is where an engine is most efficient in terms of power/fuel. It's the same reason that small engines in cars are generally more efficient.

eeeeeh, not so much....WOT in the ECU also goes from closed loop to open loop mode, where the ECU ignores the O2 sensors for a/f ratio and reads fuel trim maps, usually fattens up the a/f ratio for best power. Newer vehicles also dump excessive amount of fuel in to cool down the catalytic's as the gubermint mandated that all cats last XX km's and this is one way of doing it.

Best fuel mileage comes from about 80% throttle open as that is the max you can give it before the ecu switches to open loop.

 

[SunnY S]

Does Honda beat any of the domestics in truck sales?

They don't make a full size pick up, so no comparison.

How are domestic car sales doing? :lol:

The 10 best-selling cars of May 2013
1. Ford F-Series 71,604
2. Chevrolet Silverado 43,283
3. Toyota Camry 39, 216
4. Honda Accord 33,218
5. Nissan Altima 31,940
6. Ram Pickup 31,672
7. Honda Civic 30,268
8. Ford Fusion 29,553
9. Toyota Corolla 27,997
10. Honda CR-V 27,298

 

[daisoman]

Didn't realize pick ups are so popular. That must not be a Canadian study tho.

 

[rmemedic]

Didn't realize pick ups are so popular. That must not be a Canadian study tho.

Outside of the GTA, it's a higher % of people that drive trucks.

 

[Mean Machine]

They don't make a full size pick up, so no comparison.

How are domestic car sales doing? :lol:

The 10 best-selling cars of May 2013
1. Ford F-Series 71,604
2. Chevrolet Silverado 43,283
3. Toyota Camry 39, 216
4. Honda Accord 33,218
5. Nissan Altima 31,940
6. Ram Pickup 31,672
7. Honda Civic 30,268
8. Ford Fusion 29,553
9. Toyota Corolla 27,997
10. Honda CR-V 27,298

Japanese cars are overrated in my opinion.

 

[N3WMAN]

Apple to Oranges.

All ford trucks sold fall under the F-Series banner.

Compare the F-Series to all Honda cars sold and it wont be so skewed.

 

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[daisoman]

Outside of the GTA, it's a higher % of people that drive trucks.

70k f-series sold in the month of may? That sounds like southern states of america figures.

When I went to deals gap pick ups were the vehicle of choice there.

 

[SunnY S]

Those figures are US.

 

[fastar1]

eeeeeh, not so much....WOT in the ECU also goes from closed loop to open loop mode, where the ECU ignores the O2 sensors for a/f ratio and reads fuel trim maps, usually fattens up the a/f ratio for best power. Newer vehicles also dump excessive amount of fuel in to cool down the catalytic's as the gubermint mandated that all cats last XX km's and this is one way of doing it.

Best fuel mileage comes from about 80% throttle open as that is the max you can give it before the ecu switches to open loop.

True, I stand corrected. But the same lesson still applies here as the four banger won't actually be at 100% throttle much more than the six, it will just be using more throttle overall.

Smaller engines are more efficient, all else being equal. Which is why this is all the OP should get for his needs (right Sunny?);

 

[Wingboy]

A van is a great idea especially for trackdays.But it would suck when used for yardwork.Loads of brush to the dump,picking up mulch for the gardens etc.

 

[kellen]

My wife has a V6 Dakota. My friend has a V6 F150. Both trucks get pretty dismal mileage. The V8's that are available for either truck return the same fuel economy as the V6's do, because the little motors have to work so much harder to get the job done.....and they have way more jam for when you need the job done, like pulling something.

I'd shoot myself if I had a 3000 lb, 4 banger truck and it ever showed me 13L/100 kms unless it was towing a house up a mountainside....and even 9.5L/100 kms if driven slowly, I assume you mean that's empty, no payload, no trailer? You think that's good? What if you put 1000 lbs in the back? How would that effect economy? A V8 wouldn't even feel it.
My van is 8500 lbs empty and averages 12L/100 on the highway while hauling a trailer and 5000 lbs of whatever.......has the capacity to move 15 human beings and a trailer full of anything you'd like. Do I do that? Nope. But I could.....And I have put 5 human beings and 2 motorcycles inside, and 3 more motorcycles on a trailer behind it, and driven a few thousand kms like that. Bonus is that the fuel economy remains almost constant, becasue the van can do this kind of work easily.

I would never buy a truck that can barely do what I think I might want it to do regularly...I'd buy one that can do way more than I suspect I will usually need it for, because trust me....once you own a truck, you try some dumb **** once in a while when loading it up.

lately have been considering selling my av and getting a diesel pick up. only concern being my daily drive to work is under a kilometer and everywhere else in town is just a short drive

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