dasilvasgtr
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Some common sense coming to the forefront
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My dealings with MikeyMoto
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Just another misleading bike for sale ad listed by a D-bag in the GTA.
What's the issue? Happens all the time. There is no shortage of D-bags selling bikes in the GTA, and no shortage of D-bag ads that mislead by omission. I flushed one out a few years ago myself, an obviously crashed bike being sold after restoration that wasn't stated as such. I've gone to see bikes in the GTA that were listed as "better than new", only to find cracked body panels and shagged chains/sprockets. The GTA market is full of D-bags selling bikes through misleading ads, more so than any other market in the country. This is just another example.
Buyer beware. Especially in the GTA
What's the issue? Happens all the time. There is no shortage of D-bags selling bikes in the GTA, and no shortage of D-bag ads that mislead by omission. I flushed one out a few years ago myself, an obviously crashed bike being sold after restoration that wasn't stated as such. I've gone to see bikes in the GTA that were listed as "better than new", only to find cracked body panels and shagged chains/sprockets. The GTA market is full of D-bags selling bikes through misleading ads, more so than any other market in the country. This is just another example.
Buyer beware. Especially in the GTA
Question for the OP:
After your incident with the SUV where the bike was wrecked and essentially written off, did you go through insurance and/or inform the Ministry so the UVIP could be updated to show the salvage status of the bike to the next potential buyer?
Or was this all handled "under the table" and if so, how is that "lie by omission" any different than what "mikey" is accused of doing?
After your incident with the SUV where the bike was wrecked and essentially written off, did you go through insurance and/or inform the Ministry so the UVIP could be updated to show the salvage status of the bike to the next potential buyer?
Or was this all handled "under the table" and if so, how is that "lie by omission" any different than what "mikey" is accused of doing?
Ooooo.....plot twist! I like....
Iceman
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Chasem
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Good point Blackfin...
Agreed. Good point.
I did not go through insurance. As a matter of fact, my policy did not have full coverage. What this means is, if there's a hit and run and the driver fleds the scene, there is no coverage.
Insurance however was made fully aware of the incident but they could not cover it. A police report was also filed - waited 8 hours for someone to show - lol.
You mention the bike was written off? By who? Where is this mentioned?
I believe if there was coverage then insurance would have written it off and as a result the status would be rebuilt.
yeltoM
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You lost me at "...I had to lay the bike down". How do you even do that? It's more likely that you grabbed a handful of brake, and binned it. n00b.
Really? Noob!!!
If you have nothing worthwhile to bring to the table don't bother posting.
yeltoM
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Let me be more succinct...your statement doesn't help your credibility.
dasilvasgtr
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I must have missed something here. When I looked the the bike mike had told me the previous owner had told him it was backed into in a lot. Showed me all pictures of bike in state he got it with list of replaced parts
what's the story OP was it parking lot or lay down?
Might as as well get the full story seems to be changing at every turn.
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dasilvasgtr
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Pffft executioner... probaly a ballwasher more like it...
I couldn't care less what you think.
My post tells you that the bike was layed down. Cut off by an SUV...lost control...i went sliding on tar and so did the bike.
Mikey told you the bike was backed into in a parking lot?
Or Tony, the new guy selling the bike now told you that story?
Please clarify and i will comment.
dasilvasgtr
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Mike told me that. I was very clear...
im not judge or jury here or in most places but my opinion is as follows and the reason I posted here.
Seems to ME your sour that someone sold your bike for more then you could. But that's the breaks man if YOU need to pay someone to fix it and pay for the parts it's gonna cost more. so you got rid of it for whatever SOMEONE would pay does it really matter who? No it doesn't... or else you wouldn't have sold it man. And to come here and bash someone over your issue is wrong!! This ******** about the ad and who posted it and blah blah blah is just deflection of the fact that YOU feel you got burned. What's posted on a ad has no bearing on anything here. I haven't dealt with him much but I get at least a descent vibe from him. All points considered that's how I see it but even I don't care lol.
If if you want the bike isn't it for sale? You even went to extent to go and see it and PROVE what you stated. Looks to me that you might be trying to hard to hold a grudge karma's a ***** man and usually spelt haha **** you
good luck in your future bike stuff but don't try to muddy the waters with YOUR personal grudge.
I don't see any lies in the ad description. He didn't say anything about it never being down, or needing parts replaced, or whatever.
If its rebuilt properly, it can absolutely be described as "great shape and mechanically sound" ... so thats he lying about? If it has a clean title it has a clean title. Whether or not he discloses any of the back story to a buyer when he shows up with the money is a different story... but only a loose question of ethics.
I don't know the legality of swapping out blank frames and stamping VINs so I won't comment on it, but that's absolutely the easiest and SAFEST way to get a bike with a busted frame back on the road. Not saying this shop did that, and he probably won't care to comment on it anyway.
What was damaged on the frame?
If its rebuilt properly, it can absolutely be described as "great shape and mechanically sound" ... so thats he lying about? If it has a clean title it has a clean title. Whether or not he discloses any of the back story to a buyer when he shows up with the money is a different story... but only a loose question of ethics.
I don't know the legality of swapping out blank frames and stamping VINs so I won't comment on it, but that's absolutely the easiest and SAFEST way to get a bike with a busted frame back on the road. Not saying this shop did that, and he probably won't care to comment on it anyway.
What was damaged on the frame?
In your OP you wrote:
"The bike was looked over and it was determined that to get the bike up and running again, it would cost around $4,000 - $4,500.
Frame was cracked, rear subframe was bent, swingarm was off and pushing on the frame, and had deep gouges and was deemed unsafe, left side fairings had to be replaced, clip on was broken, rear wheel was bent etc... the list goes on...
I went by and spoke with Mikey and i was told "let someone else fix this". It's not worth it."
As you note below, if an insurance adjuster looked it over they would have written it off. You did exactly the same thing. To argue the bike was not written off is picking the flyshit out of the pepper.
Curious: How is this different compared to when you go through the channels you did and came to the same conclusion?
Bottom line: Despite knowing the bike had more damaged parts than good, including a cracked frame, bent subframe, bent wheel (the list goes on) you didn't go to the DMV and change its status to "UNFIT" or other?
I'm actually curious about this: How did the transfer of ownership happen between yourself and "mikey"? If insurance is not involved who is ultimately responsible for updating the vehicle status with the DMV: The person under whose ownership the damage occurred or the one purchasing? In the absence of insurance involvement one of the seller or the buyer has to be responsible for this and seems unlikely it's the buyer.
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